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Buh Bye INS - Hello to

Post by Jon Russe » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:29:05


two new agencies - the Bureau of Immigration Enforcement and a Bureau
of Citizenship and Immigration Services.

Anybody wanna bet that the combined budget for these two agencies will
be larger than that for the INS?  And that the same problems will
continue to exist?

Maybe this country needs a monarchy - or at least at revolution.

Don't forget to just say NO to playoffs

Jon Russell, the CheeseHuskerPope of MSAPO

Chicago 86

 
 
 

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Post by David C. Tuttl » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:38:23


Quote:

> Maybe this country needs a monarchy - or at least at revolution.

Homeland Security on Line 1.  It's been nice knowing ya...

--

Today's anagram of "David Charles Tuttle" is:  *** CHATTEL DRIVES

 
 
 

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Post by Jon Russel » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 21:33:19


"David says...

Quote:


>> Maybe this country needs a monarchy - or at least at revolution.

>Homeland Security on Line 1.  It's been nice knowing ya...

>--

>Today's anagram of "David Charles Tuttle" is:  *** CHATTEL DRIVES

Don't forget to just say NO to playoffs

Jon Russell, the CheeseHuskerPope of MSAPO

Chicago 86

 
 
 

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Post by Jon Russel » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 21:35:07


"David says...

Quote:


>> Maybe this country needs a monarchy - or at least at revolution.

>Homeland Security on Line 1.  It's been nice knowing ya...

Whoops - srroy about that prior post - I think someone's tapping my computer.

Yo - Tom Ridge - take the office and Homeland Security and shove it up yer butt.
It's a complete boondoggle and a complete waste and that's your reward for not
being able to deliver your own state.  Too bad you couldn't have gotten a decent
poisition - like Ambassador to Albania or something.

Put this middle finger on red

Don't forget to just say NO to playoffs

Jon Russell, the CheeseHuskerPope of MSAPO

Chicago 86

 
 
 

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Post by Denni » Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:12:26


Russell) decided it would be nice to share this with the class:

:->two new agencies - the Bureau of Immigration Enforcement and a
Bureau
:->of Citizenship and Immigration Services.
:->
:->Anybody wanna bet that the combined budget for these two agencies
will
:->be larger than that for the INS?  And that the same problems will
:->continue to exist?
:->
:->Maybe this country needs a monarchy - or at least at revolution.
:->
yeah My guess is the onl;y thing that will change besides the budget
is the stationary....

I have a simple idea, when foriegners enter the country with
educational or work visas, allow them to get driver's licenses but
they will expire a week after the visa.  traffic stop, expired ID
instant deportation.

No ID? locked up until documentation can be proven.

Foriegn student not enrolled? or missed classes for more than a week?
go to thier residence and search the place.

they may be guests, but their welcome is only for as long as thier
visas allow...

"education is the progressive discovery of our own ignorance" --Will Durant
"people who read the tabloids deserve to be lied to " Jerry Seinfeld
"One day we will get it right and the world will be one great big love-fest
and the only wars willbe fought over who has to sleep in the wet-spot" me :-)

 
 
 

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Post by Jefferson N. Glapsk » Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:55:10


Quote:

> Russell) decided it would be nice to share this with the class:

> :->two new agencies - the Bureau of Immigration Enforcement and a
> Bureau
> :->of Citizenship and Immigration Services.
> :->
> :->Anybody wanna bet that the combined budget for these two agencies
> will
> :->be larger than that for the INS?  And that the same problems will
> :->continue to exist?
> :->
> :->Maybe this country needs a monarchy - or at least at revolution.
> :->
> yeah My guess is the onl;y thing that will change besides the budget
> is the stationary....

> I have a simple idea, when foriegners enter the country with
> educational or work visas, allow them to get driver's licenses but
> they will expire a week after the visa.  traffic stop, expired ID
> instant deportation.

> No ID? locked up until documentation can be proven.

> Foriegn student not enrolled? or missed classes for more than a week?
> go to thier residence and search the place.

> they may be guests, but their welcome is only for as long as thier
> visas allow...

What about those that don't need visas?

--
Jefferson N. Glapski
http://pwp.ibl.bm/~jng
WE ARE . . . PENN STATE!

 
 
 

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Post by Matt Pearc » Tue, 30 Apr 2002 02:17:02



Quote:

>Russell) decided it would be nice to share this with the class:

>:->two new agencies - the Bureau of Immigration Enforcement and a
>Bureau
>:->of Citizenship and Immigration Services.
>:->
>:->Anybody wanna bet that the combined budget for these two agencies
>will
>:->be larger than that for the INS?  And that the same problems will
>:->continue to exist?
>:->
>:->Maybe this country needs a monarchy - or at least at revolution.
>:->
>yeah My guess is the onl;y thing that will change besides the budget
>is the stationary....

>I have a simple idea, when foriegners enter the country with
>educational or work visas, allow them to get driver's licenses but
>they will expire a week after the visa.  traffic stop, expired ID
>instant deportation.

>No ID? locked up until documentation can be proven.

>Foriegn student not enrolled? or missed classes for more than a week?
>go to thier residence and search the place.

Yeah, who needs that pesky 4th Amendment anyway?

-
Matt Pearce

 
 
 

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Post by Denni » Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:08:16

On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:55:10 -0300, "Jefferson N. Glapski"

the class:



:->> Russell) decided it would be nice to share this with the class:
:->>
:->> :->two new agencies - the Bureau of Immigration Enforcement and a
:->> Bureau
:->> :->of Citizenship and Immigration Services.
:->> :->
:->> :->Anybody wanna bet that the combined budget for these two
agencies
:->> will
:->> :->be larger than that for the INS?  And that the same problems
will
:->> :->continue to exist?
:->> :->
:->> :->Maybe this country needs a monarchy - or at least at
revolution.
:->> :->
:->> yeah My guess is the onl;y thing that will change besides the
budget
:->> is the stationary....
:->>
:->> I have a simple idea, when foriegners enter the country with
:->> educational or work visas, allow them to get driver's licenses
but
:->> they will expire a week after the visa.  traffic stop, expired ID
:->> instant deportation.
:->>
:->> No ID? locked up until documentation can be proven.
:->>
:->> Foriegn student not enrolled? or missed classes for more than a
week?
:->> go to thier residence and search the place.
:->>
:->> they may be guests, but their welcome is only for as long as
thier
:->> visas allow...
:->
:->
:->What about those that don't need visas?
ohh like those pesky canadians? they already use thier ID's here... so
when it expires they have a choice fly home on thier own, or give them
a ride on Greyhound....

"education is the progressive discovery of our own ignorance" --Will Durant
"people who read the tabloids deserve to be lied to " Jerry Seinfeld
"One day we will get it right and the world will be one great big love-fest
and the only wars willbe fought over who has to sleep in the wet-spot" me :-)

 
 
 

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Post by Denni » Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:09:40

On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:17:02 -0400, Matt Pearce

the class:



:->

:->>Russell) decided it would be nice to share this with the class:
:->>
:->>:->two new agencies - the Bureau of Immigration Enforcement and a
:->>Bureau
:->>:->of Citizenship and Immigration Services.
:->>:->
:->>:->Anybody wanna bet that the combined budget for these two
agencies
:->>will
:->>:->be larger than that for the INS?  And that the same problems
will
:->>:->continue to exist?
:->>:->
:->>:->Maybe this country needs a monarchy - or at least at
revolution.
:->>:->
:->>yeah My guess is the onl;y thing that will change besides the
budget
:->>is the stationary....
:->>
:->>I have a simple idea, when foriegners enter the country with
:->>educational or work visas, allow them to get driver's licenses but
:->>they will expire a week after the visa.  traffic stop, expired ID
:->>instant deportation.
:->>
:->>No ID? locked up until documentation can be proven.
:->>
:->>Foriegn student not enrolled? or missed classes for more than a
week?
:->>go to thier residence and search the place.
:->
:->Yeah, who needs that pesky 4th Amendment anyway?
:->

where does the constitution offer the same protection for Non-citizens
as it does Citizens?

"education is the progressive discovery of our own ignorance" --Will Durant
"people who read the tabloids deserve to be lied to " Jerry Seinfeld
"One day we will get it right and the world will be one great big love-fest
and the only wars willbe fought over who has to sleep in the wet-spot" me :-)

 
 
 

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Post by Matt Pearc » Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:25:13



Quote:
>On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:17:02 -0400, Matt Pearce

>the class:



>:->

>:->>Russell) decided it would be nice to share this with the class:
>:->>
>:->>:->two new agencies - the Bureau of Immigration Enforcement and a
>:->>Bureau
>:->>:->of Citizenship and Immigration Services.
>:->>:->
>:->>:->Anybody wanna bet that the combined budget for these two
>agencies
>:->>will
>:->>:->be larger than that for the INS?  And that the same problems
>will
>:->>:->continue to exist?
>:->>:->
>:->>:->Maybe this country needs a monarchy - or at least at
>revolution.
>:->>:->
>:->>yeah My guess is the onl;y thing that will change besides the
>budget
>:->>is the stationary....
>:->>
>:->>I have a simple idea, when foriegners enter the country with
>:->>educational or work visas, allow them to get driver's licenses but
>:->>they will expire a week after the visa.  traffic stop, expired ID
>:->>instant deportation.
>:->>
>:->>No ID? locked up until documentation can be proven.
>:->>
>:->>Foriegn student not enrolled? or missed classes for more than a
>week?
>:->>go to thier residence and search the place.
>:->
>:->Yeah, who needs that pesky 4th Amendment anyway?
>:->

>where does the constitution offer the same protection for Non-citizens
>as it does Citizens?

The search and seizure provisions of the 4th Amendment apply to
resident aliens.  Only non-resident aliens are exempted from 4th
A. protections.  Foreign students would most likely be resident
aliens.

-
Matt Pearce

 
 
 

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Post by Jefferson N. Glapsk » Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:49:44


Quote:
> On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:55:10 -0300, "Jefferson N. Glapski"

> the class:




> :->> Russell) decided it would be nice to share this with the class:
> :->>
> :->> :->two new agencies - the Bureau of Immigration Enforcement and a
> :->> Bureau
> :->> :->of Citizenship and Immigration Services.
> :->> :->
> :->> :->Anybody wanna bet that the combined budget for these two
> agencies
> :->> will
> :->> :->be larger than that for the INS?  And that the same problems
> will
> :->> :->continue to exist?
> :->> :->
> :->> :->Maybe this country needs a monarchy - or at least at
> revolution.
> :->> :->
> :->> yeah My guess is the onl;y thing that will change besides the
> budget
> :->> is the stationary....
> :->>
> :->> I have a simple idea, when foriegners enter the country with
> :->> educational or work visas, allow them to get driver's licenses
> but
> :->> they will expire a week after the visa.  traffic stop, expired ID
> :->> instant deportation.
> :->>
> :->> No ID? locked up until documentation can be proven.

Very French of you...

Quote:
> :->> Foriegn student not enrolled? or missed classes for more than a
> week?
> :->> go to thier residence and search the place.
> :->>
> :->> they may be guests, but their welcome is only for as long as
> thier
> :->> visas allow...
> :->
> :->
> :->What about those that don't need visas?
> ohh like those pesky canadians? they already use thier ID's here... so
> when it expires they have a choice fly home on thier own, or give them
> a ride on Greyhound....

IDs? As an Albertan holding Canadian papers, I can legally stay in the US
without a visa for six months. I don't care any ID that expires in six
months, but I do have ID that expires in ten years.

If you wanna be a dictator, you need a secret police force.

--
Jefferson N. Glapski
http://pwp.ibl.bm/~jng
WE ARE . . . PENN STATE!

 
 
 

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Post by scott wilso » Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:04:04

On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 19:25:13 -0400, Matt Pearce

Quote:



>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:17:02 -0400, Matt Pearce

>>the class:



>>:->

>>:->>Russell) decided it would be nice to share this with the class:
>>:->>
>>:->>:->two new agencies - the Bureau of Immigration Enforcement and a
>>:->>Bureau
>>:->>:->of Citizenship and Immigration Services.
>>:->>:->
>>:->>:->Anybody wanna bet that the combined budget for these two
>>agencies
>>:->>will
>>:->>:->be larger than that for the INS?  And that the same problems
>>will
>>:->>:->continue to exist?
>>:->>:->
>>:->>:->Maybe this country needs a monarchy - or at least at
>>revolution.
>>:->>:->
>>:->>yeah My guess is the onl;y thing that will change besides the
>>budget
>>:->>is the stationary....
>>:->>
>>:->>I have a simple idea, when foriegners enter the country with
>>:->>educational or work visas, allow them to get driver's licenses but
>>:->>they will expire a week after the visa.  traffic stop, expired ID
>>:->>instant deportation.
>>:->>
>>:->>No ID? locked up until documentation can be proven.
>>:->>
>>:->>Foriegn student not enrolled? or missed classes for more than a
>>week?
>>:->>go to thier residence and search the place.
>>:->
>>:->Yeah, who needs that pesky 4th Amendment anyway?
>>:->

>>where does the constitution offer the same protection for Non-citizens
>>as it does Citizens?

>The search and seizure provisions of the 4th Amendment apply to
>resident aliens.  Only non-resident aliens are exempted from 4th
>A. protections.  Foreign students would most likely be resident
>aliens.

so where would that leave those dudes on the x-files?

scott

 
 
 

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Post by Denni » Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:37:10

On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 20:49:44 -0300, "Jefferson N. Glapski"

the class:


:->> On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:55:10 -0300, "Jefferson N. Glapski"

with
:->> the class:
:->>


(Jon
:->> :->> Russell) decided it would be nice to share this with the
class:
:->> :->>
:->> :->> :->two new agencies - the Bureau of Immigration Enforcement
and a
:->> :->> Bureau
:->> :->> :->of Citizenship and Immigration Services.
:->> :->> :->
:->> :->> :->Anybody wanna bet that the combined budget for these two
:->> agencies
:->> :->> will
:->> :->> :->be larger than that for the INS?  And that the same
problems
:->> will
:->> :->> :->continue to exist?
:->> :->> :->
:->> :->> :->Maybe this country needs a monarchy - or at least at
:->> revolution.
:->> :->> :->
:->> :->> yeah My guess is the onl;y thing that will change besides
the
:->> budget
:->> :->> is the stationary....
:->> :->>
:->> :->> I have a simple idea, when foriegners enter the country with
:->> :->> educational or work visas, allow them to get driver's
licenses
:->> but
:->> :->> they will expire a week after the visa.  traffic stop,
expired ID
:->> :->> instant deportation.
:->> :->>
:->> :->> No ID? locked up until documentation can be proven.
:->
:->Very French of you...
:->
:->> :->> Foriegn student not enrolled? or missed classes for more
than a
:->> week?
:->> :->> go to thier residence and search the place.
:->> :->>
:->> :->> they may be guests, but their welcome is only for as long as
:->> thier
:->> :->> visas allow...
:->> :->
:->> :->
:->> :->What about those that don't need visas?
:->> ohh like those pesky canadians? they already use thier ID's
here... so
:->> when it expires they have a choice fly home on thier own, or give
them
:->> a ride on Greyhound....
:->
:->IDs? As an Albertan holding Canadian papers, I can legally stay in
the US
:->without a visa for six months. I don't care any ID that expires in
six
:->months, but I do have ID that expires in ten years.
:->
:->If you wanna be a dictator, you need a secret police force.

well I don't want to be a dictator, I just want a simple way to keep
illegals out of the country. I want laws with teeth.

"education is the progressive discovery of our own ignorance" --Will Durant
"people who read the tabloids deserve to be lied to " Jerry Seinfeld
"One day we will get it right and the world will be one great big love-fest
and the only wars willbe fought over who has to sleep in the wet-spot" me :-)

 
 
 

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Post by Denni » Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:38:34

On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 19:25:13 -0400, Matt Pearce

the class:



:->
:->>On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:17:02 -0400, Matt Pearce

with
:->>the class:
:->>
:->>:->On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 16:12:26 GMT, Dennis


:->>:->

:->>:->>Russell) decided it would be nice to share this with the
class:
:->>:->>
:->>:->>:->two new agencies - the Bureau of Immigration Enforcement
and a
:->>:->>Bureau
:->>:->>:->of Citizenship and Immigration Services.
:->>:->>:->
:->>:->>:->Anybody wanna bet that the combined budget for these two
:->>agencies
:->>:->>will
:->>:->>:->be larger than that for the INS?  And that the same
problems
:->>will
:->>:->>:->continue to exist?
:->>:->>:->
:->>:->>:->Maybe this country needs a monarchy - or at least at
:->>revolution.
:->>:->>:->
:->>:->>yeah My guess is the onl;y thing that will change besides the
:->>budget
:->>:->>is the stationary....
:->>:->>
:->>:->>I have a simple idea, when foriegners enter the country with
:->>:->>educational or work visas, allow them to get driver's licenses
but
:->>:->>they will expire a week after the visa.  traffic stop, expired
ID
:->>:->>instant deportation.
:->>:->>
:->>:->>No ID? locked up until documentation can be proven.
:->>:->>
:->>:->>Foriegn student not enrolled? or missed classes for more than
a
:->>week?
:->>:->>go to thier residence and search the place.
:->>:->
:->>:->Yeah, who needs that pesky 4th Amendment anyway?
:->>:->
:->>
:->>where does the constitution offer the same protection for
Non-citizens
:->>as it does Citizens?
:->
:->The search and seizure provisions of the 4th Amendment apply to
:->resident aliens.  Only non-resident aliens are exempted from 4th
:->A. protections.  Foreign students would most likely be resident
:->aliens.
:->

so if thier visa is expired, or they are no longer Students they would
lose that status... and then be illegaly in the country...

"education is the progressive discovery of our own ignorance" --Will Durant
"people who read the tabloids deserve to be lied to " Jerry Seinfeld
"One day we will get it right and the world will be one great big love-fest
and the only wars willbe fought over who has to sleep in the wet-spot" me :-)

 
 
 

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Post by Denni » Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:39:10


decided it would be nice to share this with the class:

:->On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 19:25:13 -0400, Matt Pearce
:->


:->>
:->>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:17:02 -0400, Matt Pearce

with
:->>>the class:
:->>>
:->>>:->On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 16:12:26 GMT, Dennis


:->>>:->

(Jon
:->>>:->>Russell) decided it would be nice to share this with the
class:
:->>>:->>
:->>>:->>:->two new agencies - the Bureau of Immigration Enforcement
and a
:->>>:->>Bureau
:->>>:->>:->of Citizenship and Immigration Services.
:->>>:->>:->
:->>>:->>:->Anybody wanna bet that the combined budget for these two
:->>>agencies
:->>>:->>will
:->>>:->>:->be larger than that for the INS?  And that the same
problems
:->>>will
:->>>:->>:->continue to exist?
:->>>:->>:->
:->>>:->>:->Maybe this country needs a monarchy - or at least at
:->>>revolution.
:->>>:->>:->
:->>>:->>yeah My guess is the onl;y thing that will change besides the
:->>>budget
:->>>:->>is the stationary....
:->>>:->>
:->>>:->>I have a simple idea, when foriegners enter the country with
:->>>:->>educational or work visas, allow them to get driver's
licenses but
:->>>:->>they will expire a week after the visa.  traffic stop,
expired ID
:->>>:->>instant deportation.
:->>>:->>
:->>>:->>No ID? locked up until documentation can be proven.
:->>>:->>
:->>>:->>Foriegn student not enrolled? or missed classes for more than
a
:->>>week?
:->>>:->>go to thier residence and search the place.
:->>>:->
:->>>:->Yeah, who needs that pesky 4th Amendment anyway?
:->>>:->
:->>>
:->>>where does the constitution offer the same protection for
Non-citizens
:->>>as it does Citizens?
:->>
:->>The search and seizure provisions of the 4th Amendment apply to
:->>resident aliens.  Only non-resident aliens are exempted from 4th
:->>A. protections.  Foreign students would most likely be resident
:->>aliens.
:->
:->so where would that leave those dudes on the x-files?
:->
:->scott

Porkin' Momma under the Bed...

"education is the progressive discovery of our own ignorance" --Will Durant
"people who read the tabloids deserve to be lied to " Jerry Seinfeld
"One day we will get it right and the world will be one great big love-fest
and the only wars willbe fought over who has to sleep in the wet-spot" me :-)