Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Post by xyzz » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 00:12:08


President Bush said Tuesday that the Iraqis are refuting the pessimists
and implied that things are improving in that country.

What would America look like if it were in Iraq's current situation? The
population of the US is over 11 times that of Iraq, so a lot of
statistics would have to be multiplied by that number.

Thus, *** killed 300 Iraqis last week, the equivalent
proportionately of 3,300 Americans. What if 3,300 Americans had died in
car bombings, grenade and rocket attacks, machine gun spray, and aerial
bombardment in the last week? That is a number greater than the deaths
on September 11, and if America were Iraq, it would be an ongoing,
weekly or monthly toll.

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Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Post by Ralph Kenne » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 01:40:54

Quote:

> President Bush said Tuesday that the Iraqis are refuting the pessimists
> and implied that things are improving in that country.

     GUFFAW!

Quote:
> What would America look like if it were in Iraq's current situation? The
> population of the US is over 11 times that of Iraq, so a lot of
> statistics would have to be multiplied by that number.

> Thus, *** killed 300 Iraqis last week, the equivalent
> proportionately of 3,300 Americans. What if 3,300 Americans had died in
> car bombings, grenade and rocket attacks, machine gun spray, and aerial
> bombardment in the last week? That is a number greater than the deaths
> on September 11,

     A 9/11 death toll every week?  Every week, you say?

Quote:
> and if America were Iraq, it would be an ongoing, weekly or monthly toll.


--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice


 
 
 

Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Post by Bryan S. Slic » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 03:43:59


[Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:40:54 GMT]

:> and if America were Iraq, it would be an ongoing, weekly or monthly toll.
:

Does this add to the discussion, or merely divert it into yet another
pissing match over partisan politics?

--
Bryan S. Slick, usenet at slick-family dot net

"To those who serve America, in any fashion,
 freedom has a flavor those who just sit by will never know."

 
 
 

Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Post by rich hammet » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 04:46:16

Min? suojelen sinua kaikelta, mit? ikin? keksitkin sanoa, Bryan S. Slick:

Quote:

> [Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:40:54 GMT]
> :> and if America were Iraq, it would be an ongoing, weekly or monthly toll.
> :

> Does this add to the discussion, or merely divert it into yet another
> pissing match over partisan politics?

Anybody claiming that things are "good" or even that daily
life is "better than under Saddam" in Iraq don't deserve any
more than that.

If we actually end up making life worse in Iraq than it was under
Hussein, we'll have a lot to answer for.

rich
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Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Post by Ralph Kenne » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 05:11:35


Quote:

> :> and if America were Iraq, it would be an ongoing, weekly or monthly toll.
> :

> Does this add to the discussion, or merely divert it into yet another
> pissing match over partisan politics?

     Just once it would be nice to see you ask

crowd, Bryan.  I mean, since you *are* neutral and
looking out for all of us'n all.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice

 
 
 

Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Post by Jeffrey Davi » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 07:14:40

Quote:

> Min? suojelen sinua kaikelta, mit? ikin? keksitkin sanoa, Bryan S. Slick:


>>[Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:40:54 GMT]

>>:> and if America were Iraq, it would be an ongoing, weekly or monthly toll.
>>:

>>Does this add to the discussion, or merely divert it into yet another
>>pissing match over partisan politics?

> Anybody claiming that things are "good" or even that daily
> life is "better than under Saddam" in Iraq don't deserve any
> more than that.

> If we actually end up making life worse in Iraq than it was under
> Hussein, we'll have a lot to answer for.

Rocket propelled grenades are down to $250!!
 
 
 

Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Post by Bryan S. Slic » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 08:18:10


[Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:46:16 -0000]

:Min? suojelen sinua kaikelta, mit? ikin? keksitkin sanoa, Bryan S. Slick:

:> [Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:40:54 GMT]
:
:> :> and if America were Iraq, it would be an ongoing, weekly or monthly toll.
:> :

:
:> Does this add to the discussion, or merely divert it into yet another
:> pissing match over partisan politics?
:
:Anybody claiming that things are "good" or even that daily
:life is "better than under Saddam" in Iraq don't deserve any
:more than that.

Who said anything, in this thread, about the death toll being "good" ?

--
Bryan S. Slick, usenet at slick-family dot net

"To those who serve America, in any fashion,
 freedom has a flavor those who just sit by will never know."

 
 
 

Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Post by Bryan S. Slic » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 08:18:30


[Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:11:35 GMT]



:>
:> :> and if America were Iraq, it would be an ongoing, weekly or monthly toll.
:> :

:>
:> Does this add to the discussion, or merely divert it into yet another
:> pissing match over partisan politics?
:
:     Just once it would be nice to see you ask

:crowd, Bryan.  I mean, since you *are* neutral and
:looking out for all of us'n all.

So, you're not going to answer my question, then?

--
Bryan S. Slick, usenet at slick-family dot net

"To those who serve America, in any fashion,
 freedom has a flavor those who just sit by will never know."

 
 
 

Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Post by Ralph Kenne » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:21:41


Quote:



> :>
> :> :> and if America were Iraq, it would be an ongoing, weekly or monthly toll.
> :> :

> :>
> :> Does this add to the discussion, or merely divert it into yet another
> :> pissing match over partisan politics?
> :
> :     Just once it would be nice to see you ask

> :crowd, Bryan.  I mean, since you *are* neutral and
> :looking out for all of us'n all.

> So, you're not going to answer my question, then?

     It adds to the discussion.  Sarcasm (as long
as it's on target) is a time-honored rhetorical
tool.


crowd for a change?

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice

 
 
 

Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Post by rich hammet » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:47:53

Min? suojelen sinua kaikelta, mit? ikin? keksitkin sanoa, Jeffrey Davis:

Quote:

>> Min? suojelen sinua kaikelta, mit? ikin? keksitkin sanoa, Bryan S. Slick:


>>>[Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:40:54 GMT]

>>>:> and if America were Iraq, it would be an ongoing, weekly or monthly toll.
>>>:

>>>Does this add to the discussion, or merely divert it into yet another
>>>pissing match over partisan politics?

>> Anybody claiming that things are "good" or even that daily
>> life is "better than under Saddam" in Iraq don't deserve any
>> more than that.

>> If we actually end up making life worse in Iraq than it was under
>> Hussein, we'll have a lot to answer for.
> Rocket propelled grenades are down to $250!!

Yeah, I heard Wal-Mart is opening up there.

rich

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+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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\   than the pride that divides
/                     when a colorful rag is unfurled."

 
 
 

Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Post by rich hammet » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:50:12

Min? suojelen sinua kaikelta, mit? ikin? keksitkin sanoa, Bryan S. Slick:

Quote:

> [Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:46:16 -0000]
> :Min? suojelen sinua kaikelta, mit? ikin? keksitkin sanoa, Bryan S. Slick:

> :> [Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:40:54 GMT]
> :
> :> :> and if America were Iraq, it would be an ongoing, weekly or monthly toll.
> :> :

> :
> :> Does this add to the discussion, or merely divert it into yet another
> :> pissing match over partisan politics?
> :
> :Anybody claiming that things are "good" or even that daily
> :life is "better than under Saddam" in Iraq don't deserve any
> :more than that.
> Who said anything, in this thread, about the death toll being "good" ?

It was implied with the ironic "EVERYTHING IS OKAY" bit.

There is a substantial right-wing kookness bit going around
about how the balance of bad news is a virtual creation of
the evil left-wing media.  Those people are messed up.  I
haven't seen you say that.

rich
--
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\   than the pride that divides
/                     when a colorful rag is unfurled."

 
 
 

Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Post by Charles Beaucham » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:09:51

Quote:

> Min? suojelen sinua kaikelta, mit? ikin? keksitkin sanoa, Bryan S.
> Slick:

>> [Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:40:54 GMT]

>>>> and if America were Iraq, it would be an ongoing, weekly or
>>>> monthly toll.



>> Does this add to the discussion, or merely divert it into yet another
>> pissing match over partisan politics?

> Anybody claiming that things are "good" or even that daily
> life is "better than under Saddam" in Iraq don't deserve any
> more than that.

> If we actually end up making life worse in Iraq than it was under
> Hussein, we'll have a lot to answer for.

> rich

Anyone who contemplates even the possibility that we could make life in Iraq
worse then it was under Hussein has no idea how life was like under Hussein,
lacks the perspective to appreciate exactly how good they have it in the USA
and likely never will.

--
v/r Beau

Karate Explosion

 
 
 

Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Post by Bill Dee » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 13:24:50

Quote:
>> Rocket propelled grenades are down to $250!!

>Yeah, I heard Wal-Mart is opening up there.

>rich

  When there's a Wal-Mart in every city and a McDonalds on every corner we'll
know we've won!
 
 
 

Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Post by Bryan S. Slic » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 13:36:04


[Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:21:41 GMT]





:> :>
:> :> :> and if America were Iraq, it would be an ongoing, weekly or monthly toll.
:> :> :

:> :>
:> :> Does this add to the discussion, or merely divert it into yet another
:> :> pissing match over partisan politics?
:> :
:> :     Just once it would be nice to see you ask

:> :crowd, Bryan.  I mean, since you *are* neutral and
:> :looking out for all of us'n all.
:>
:> So, you're not going to answer my question, then?
:
:     It adds to the discussion.  Sarcasm (as long
:as it's on target) is a time-honored rhetorical
:tool.
:

:crowd for a change?

You gotta realize something.. I have their main kook kill-filed.

--
Bryan S. Slick, usenet at slick-family dot net

"To those who serve America, in any fashion,
 freedom has a flavor those who just sit by will never know."

 
 
 

Optimism in Iraq translated to the USA

Post by Bryan S. Slic » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 13:39:14


[Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:09:51 -0700]

:Anyone who contemplates even the possibility that we could make life in Iraq
:worse then it was under Hussein has no idea how life was like under Hussein,
:lacks the perspective to appreciate exactly how good they have it in the USA
:and likely never will.

Charles, have you dealt with a large number of people who actually lived
day-to-day in Iraq?

There is a perception in this country that Hussein was actively lashing
each citizen of Iraq on a daily basis with whips, chains, chairs, etc.

Utter nonsense.

Granted, Hussein is/was an evil dipshit and needed removal.

Granted, the POTENTIAL for a better quality of life in Iraq is there now
than has been there in ages.

To say that the potential for freedom means Iraq has freedom at this
time.. is ridiculous.  Freedom from tyranny is fine and dandy.. but less
so when it's traded for the freedom from car-bombs, random shootings in
the street, occupation, etc.

--
Bryan S. Slick, usenet at slick-family dot net

"To those who serve America, in any fashion,
 freedom has a flavor those who just sit by will never know."