Ottawa: Bottom Line Rattles A Top Guy

Ottawa: Bottom Line Rattles A Top Guy

Post by owl » Sat, 25 Sep 2004 23:43:45


Ottawa's CFL boardroom brawl

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040923.wxreneg09...

'According to various sources, Lisowski, among other things,
apparently didn't want the club to spend $15,000 on a media guide.
Later, he argued the team should be able to survive with two
quarterbacks, not three. When basic supplies were missing at training
camp, coaches apparently reached into their own pockets. Later, they
picked up brooms when cleaning staff was cut from the budget.'

 
 
 

Ottawa: Bottom Line Rattles A Top Guy

Post by Glen Hallic » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 00:11:51


Quote:
> Ottawa's CFL boardroom brawl

http://SportToday.org/

Quote:

> 'According to various sources, Lisowski, among other things,
> apparently didn't want the club to spend $15,000 on a media guide.
> Later, he argued the team should be able to survive with two
> quarterbacks, not three. When basic supplies were missing at training
> camp, coaches apparently reached into their own pockets. Later, they
> picked up brooms when cleaning staff was cut from the budget.'

Bringing in a hack and slash guy is always a mistake. By paying total
adherence to only the bottom line is a sure fire way to***things up.

Glen

 
 
 

Ottawa: Bottom Line Rattles A Top Guy

Post by owl » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 01:18:31

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:11:51 -0500, "Glen Hallick"

Quote:



>> Ottawa's CFL boardroom brawl

>http://SportToday.org/

>> 'According to various sources, Lisowski, among other things,
>> apparently didn't want the club to spend $15,000 on a media guide.
>> Later, he argued the team should be able to survive with two
>> quarterbacks, not three. When basic supplies were missing at training
>> camp, coaches apparently reached into their own pockets. Later, they
>> picked up brooms when cleaning staff was cut from the budget.'

>Bringing in a hack and slash guy is always a mistake. By paying total
>adherence to only the bottom line is a sure fire way to***things up.

>Glen

Good cost control guys are okay with me, I've worked with business
process consultants and seen some pretty good results ... but adding
someone to a football org that says they don't really need a 3rd QB is
thick as a brick.

Some sympathy and comment about Tillman - he's a good football guy,
lots of knowledge and comes across pretty personable.  However, in
both his GM jobs there's been some weak edge.  Other execs around him
don't seem to be cautious enough about jerking his chain.

 
 
 

Ottawa: Bottom Line Rattles A Top Guy

Post by Bunn » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 06:52:09


Quote:
> On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:11:51 -0500, "Glen Hallick"



>>> Ottawa's CFL boardroom brawl

>>http://SportToday.org/

>>> 'According to various sources, Lisowski, among other things,
>>> apparently didn't want the club to spend $15,000 on a media guide.
>>> Later, he argued the team should be able to survive with two
>>> quarterbacks, not three. When basic supplies were missing at training
>>> camp, coaches apparently reached into their own pockets. Later, they
>>> picked up brooms when cleaning staff was cut from the budget.'

>>Bringing in a hack and slash guy is always a mistake. By paying total
>>adherence to only the bottom line is a sure fire way to***things up.

>>Glen

> Good cost control guys are okay with me, I've worked with business
> process consultants and seen some pretty good results ... but adding
> someone to a football org that says they don't really need a 3rd QB is
> thick as a brick.

I think that was Mr Hallick's point. If decisions are made based on finance
in isolation of other issues, there is bound to be a poor outcome.
 
 
 

Ottawa: Bottom Line Rattles A Top Guy

Post by Don » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 07:57:45

Quote:

> Ottawa's CFL boardroom brawl

> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040923.wxreneg09...

> 'According to various sources, Lisowski, among other things,
> apparently didn't want the club to spend $15,000 on a media guide.
> Later, he argued the team should be able to survive with two
> quarterbacks, not three. When basic supplies were missing at training
> camp, coaches apparently reached into their own pockets. Later, they
> picked up brooms when cleaning staff was cut from the budget.'

Can't say I've ever been a Tillman guy... it seems to me Tillman takes
care of Tillman first, second, third and fourth. However this has the
look of a shaft job from  the git-go. Bummer for Gade fans is the
obligatory re-build aftyer 3 years of what seemed to be a very decent base.

Don

 
 
 

Ottawa: Bottom Line Rattles A Top Guy

Post by owl » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:10:25

Quote:

>Can't say I've ever been a Tillman guy... it seems to me Tillman takes
>care of Tillman first, second, third and fourth. However this has the
>look of a shaft job from  the git-go. Bummer for Gade fans is the
>obligatory re-build aftyer 3 years of what seemed to be a very decent base.
>Don

I'll cut Tillman more slack than that.  I thought he did about as good
as you could do with the locust plague of issues in T.O. at the time.

Another Time-driven plan bites the dust.  Hope enough of the Gades
fans read about the side-show and drop the dump Paopao stuff.

 
 
 

Ottawa: Bottom Line Rattles A Top Guy

Post by Glen Hallic » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 10:20:43


Quote:
> On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:11:51 -0500, "Glen Hallick"



> >> Ottawa's CFL boardroom brawl

>http://SportToday.org/
tory/Sports/

> >> 'According to various sources, Lisowski, among other things,
> >> apparently didn't want the club to spend $15,000 on a media guide.
> >> Later, he argued the team should be able to survive with two
> >> quarterbacks, not three. When basic supplies were missing at training
> >> camp, coaches apparently reached into their own pockets. Later, they
> >> picked up brooms when cleaning staff was cut from the budget.'

> >Bringing in a hack and slash guy is always a mistake. By paying total
> >adherence to only the bottom line is a sure fire way to***things up.

> >Glen

> Good cost control guys are okay with me, I've worked with business
> process consultants and seen some pretty good results ... but adding
> someone to a football org that says they don't really need a 3rd QB is
> thick as a brick.

I've seen where deep cuts have resulted in diminishing the quality of the
product thereby making it tougher to bounce back.

Quote:
> Some sympathy and comment about Tillman - he's a good football guy,
> lots of knowledge and comes across pretty personable.  However, in
> both his GM jobs there's been some weak edge.  Other execs around him
> don't seem to be cautious enough about jerking his chain.

Hey maybe with Shawn Coates leaving the Bombers in couple of weeks to become
the CFL's Director of Football Operations, maybe Tillman can take Coatsie's
old job of Media and Public relations director!  :-)

Glen

 
 
 

Ottawa: Bottom Line Rattles A Top Guy

Post by owl » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:42:10

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 20:20:43 -0500, "Glen Hallick"

Quote:



>> On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:11:51 -0500, "Glen Hallick"

>> Good cost control guys are okay with me, I've worked with business
>> process consultants and seen some pretty good results ... but adding
>> someone to a football org that says they don't really need a 3rd QB is
>> thick as a brick.
>I've seen where deep cuts have resulted in diminishing the quality of the
>product thereby making it tougher to bounce back.

Yea, I've seen departments and companies go down the tubes when
cost-cutters trimmed the 'inefficiencies'.  If we notice in the next
Gades game that the defence is slow coming on the field because they
need the shoes from the offence ... we can tag this guy as a
copper-stretcher.

Quote:
>> Some sympathy and comment about Tillman - he's a good football guy,
>> lots of knowledge and comes across pretty personable.  However, in
>> both his GM jobs there's been some weak edge.  Other execs around him
>> don't seem to be cautious enough about jerking his chain.
>Hey maybe with Shawn Coates leaving the Bombers in couple of weeks to become
>the CFL's Director of Football Operations, maybe Tillman can take Coatsie's
>old job of Media and Public relations director!  :-)

Nah, Tillman will be back at the TSN desk in Toronto for another
stint.  The article mentioned something about illness in the family.  
Quote:

>Glen