Peete and Rhodes critic (Was Re: Cowboys/Switzer Critics)

Peete and Rhodes critic (Was Re: Cowboys/Switzer Critics)

Post by John Walk » Thu, 10 Oct 1996 04:00:00


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>Re: _Peete and Rhodes critic (Was Re: Cowboys/Switzer Critics)_, John Walkup
>wrote to All  on 08 Oct 96:
> >> Of course not.  But taking a two-time defending Super Bowl champion back
> >> to the Super Bowl is not a test of greatness, IMO.  At best it proves he's
> >> adequate to win a Super Bowl with a two-time defending Super Bowl
> >> champion.
> JW>
> JW> Which is pretty adequate.  There have been many coaches who couldn't win
> JW> the Super Bowl with Super Bowl talent on their team.
>I don't know of any that had Dallas's talent from a year ago.  But in any case,

You're right, Emmitt Smith didn't play for the Chicago Bears following their
Super Bowl victory.

Quote:
>I never said Switzer was the worst coach ever or even now.  I just said winning
>a Super Bowl with a two-time defending Super Bowl champion is not a sign of
>greatness.  Obviously it doesn't make him bad, either.

And that's the point.  But nothing Ray Rhodes has done signifies him as greater than
Switzer.  Plenty of coaches make mediocre teams into respectable ones.  
I want to see if Rhodes can get a team to the next level.  But Switzer has certainly
done it at the college level.  Rhodes hasn't done it at either.
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>...  NFL Week 1:  Kansas City Chiefs 20 - Houston Oilers 19!

 
 
 

Peete and Rhodes critic (Was Re: Cowboys/Switzer Critics)

Post by Terry M » Thu, 10 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Re: _Peete and Rhodes critic (Was Re: Cowboys/Switzer Critics)_, John Walkup
wrote to All  on 08 Oct 96:

 >> Of course not.  But taking a two-time defending Super Bowl champion back
 >> to the Super Bowl is not a test of greatness, IMO.  At best it proves he's
 >> adequate to win a Super Bowl with a two-time defending Super Bowl
 >> champion.
 JW>
 JW> Which is pretty adequate.  There have been many coaches who couldn't win
 JW> the Super Bowl with Super Bowl talent on their team.

I don't know of any that had Dallas's talent from a year ago.  But in any case,
I never said Switzer was the worst coach ever or even now.  I just said winning
a Super Bowl with a two-time defending Super Bowl champion is not a sign of
greatness.  Obviously it doesn't make him bad, either.

...  NFL Week 1:  Kansas City Chiefs 20 - Houston Oilers 19!

 
 
 

Peete and Rhodes critic (Was Re: Cowboys/Switzer Critics)

Post by Fred Goodw » Fri, 11 Oct 1996 04:00:00

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>>Of course not.  But taking a two-time defending Super Bowl champion back to the
>>Super Bowl is not a test of greatness, IMO.  At best it proves he's adequate to
>>win a Super Bowl with a two-time defending Super Bowl champion.

>Which is pretty adequate.  There have been many coaches who couldn't win the
>Super Bowl with Super Bowl talent on their team.

Can you say "Phil Bengston"??  Led two-time SB champ Packers to 6-7-1
record in '68.

Can you say "Ray Handley"??  Led SB champ Giants to 8-8 record in '91.

Can you say "Richie Petitbon"??  Led Skins to a 4-12 record in '93,
after they won SB 26 in '92 and made the playoffs in Gibbs' final year.

Taking a defending SB champion back to the Big Show is hardly the
no-brainer many think it is (which supports my contention that fans
don't know the first thing about coaching, despite their eloquent
protestations to the contrary).

After all, if it were so easy to get back to the Big Soupbone (apologies
to Blackie Sherrod), then *EVERY* Super Bowl winner should repeat,
right?  And those with a returning head coach, especially so, right?

Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

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