Toyota digging a deeper hole?

Toyota digging a deeper hole?

Post by The Henchma » Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:53:46


The one thing consumers don't want to hear is cover-ups.  Toyota will
survive with high regard thru the current troubled recalls, unless it's
found by the media there were cover-ups, or profits before safety. I doubt
consumers will place Toyota quality so high if cover-ups and government
negotiations are true....

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/toyota-boasted-savi...

or

http://tinyurl.com/yh5uee4

 
 
 

Toyota digging a deeper hole?

Post by BillyZoo » Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:11:06


Quote:
> The one thing consumers don't want to hear is cover-ups. ?Toyota will
> survive with high regard thru the current troubled recalls, unless it's
> found by the media there were cover-ups, or profits before safety. I doubt
> consumers will place Toyota quality so high if cover-ups and government
> negotiations are true....

> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/toyota-boasted-savi...

> or

> http://tinyurl.com/yh5uee4

Having worked for Honda in the past, I really think they wouldn't have
made the same mistakes (watch the headlines tomorrow - I'm always
wrong). I think Toyota has grown too quickly and become westernized
too quickly. I would buy a Toyota today if they had a model I wanted.
But I know Honda is more deliberate and makes changes slowly. I have
seen the people who build Accords. They're less intelligent, less
motivated and less...tolerable than any people I've ever had to work
around. The difference is in quality control. They don't (for the most
part) let lemons go out the door. Also, there's the engineering. The
designs are just solid. The "trouble" with Honda is that they'll
introduce a new Accord and that's it. And it really isn''t that
different from the previous one. Toyota come up with exciting stuff.
Honda has always been about the long run. They're content to get you
ten years from now, even if they can't get you today.

 
 
 

Toyota digging a deeper hole?

Post by PrinceGunte » Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:44:08


Quote:

> > The one thing consumers don't want to hear is cover-ups. ?Toyota will
> > survive with high regard thru the current troubled recalls, unless it's
> > found by the media there were cover-ups, or profits before safety. I doubt
> > consumers will place Toyota quality so high if cover-ups and government
> > negotiations are true....

> >http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/toyota-boasted-savi...

> > or

> >http://tinyurl.com/yh5uee4

> Having worked for Honda in the past, I really think they wouldn't have
> made the same mistakes (watch the headlines tomorrow - I'm always
> wrong). I think Toyota has grown too quickly and become westernized
> too quickly. I would buy a Toyota today if they had a model I wanted.
> But I know Honda is more deliberate and makes changes slowly. I have
> seen the people who build Accords. They're less intelligent, less
> motivated and less...tolerable than any people I've ever had to work
> around. The difference is in quality control. They don't (for the most
> part) let lemons go out the door. Also, there's the engineering. The
> designs are just solid. The "trouble" with Honda is that they'll
> introduce a new Accord and that's it. And it really isn''t that
> different from the previous one. Toyota come up with exciting stuff.
> Honda has always been about the long run. They're content to get you
> ten years from now, even if they can't get you today.

Someone needs to explain the transmissions on their six-cylinder
automobiles then.  Bejeezus ... I can almost tell you how many miles
are on an Odyssey by listening to how loud the "CLUNK" is when I put
it in reverse.

 
 
 

Toyota digging a deeper hole?

Post by Pauli » Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:35:25


Quote:


> > > The one thing consumers don't want to hear is cover-ups. ?Toyota will
> > > survive with high regard thru the current troubled recalls, unless it's
> > > found by the media there were cover-ups, or profits before safety. I doubt
> > > consumers will place Toyota quality so high if cover-ups and government
> > > negotiations are true....

> > >http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/toyota-boasted-savi...

> > > or

> > >http://tinyurl.com/yh5uee4

> > Having worked for Honda in the past, I really think they wouldn't have
> > made the same mistakes (watch the headlines tomorrow - I'm always
> > wrong). I think Toyota has grown too quickly and become westernized
> > too quickly. I would buy a Toyota today if they had a model I wanted.
> > But I know Honda is more deliberate and makes changes slowly. I have
> > seen the people who build Accords. They're less intelligent, less
> > motivated and less...tolerable than any people I've ever had to work
> > around. The difference is in quality control. They don't (for the most
> > part) let lemons go out the door. Also, there's the engineering. The
> > designs are just solid. The "trouble" with Honda is that they'll
> > introduce a new Accord and that's it. And it really isn''t that
> > different from the previous one. Toyota come up with exciting stuff.
> > Honda has always been about the long run. They're content to get you
> > ten years from now, even if they can't get you today.

> Someone needs to explain the transmissions on their six-cylinder
> automobiles then. ?Bejeezus ... I can almost tell you how many miles
> are on an Odyssey by listening to how loud the "CLUNK" is when I put
> it in reverse.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

my Pilot does the same thing - I've been told that it's "normal"
 
 
 

Toyota digging a deeper hole?

Post by BillyZoo » Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:14:36


Quote:


> > > The one thing consumers don't want to hear is cover-ups. ?Toyota will
> > > survive with high regard thru the current troubled recalls, unless it's
> > > found by the media there were cover-ups, or profits before safety. I doubt
> > > consumers will place Toyota quality so high if cover-ups and government
> > > negotiations are true....

> > >http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/toyota-boasted-savi...

> > > or

> > >http://tinyurl.com/yh5uee4

> > Having worked for Honda in the past, I really think they wouldn't have
> > made the same mistakes (watch the headlines tomorrow - I'm always
> > wrong). I think Toyota has grown too quickly and become westernized
> > too quickly. I would buy a Toyota today if they had a model I wanted.
> > But I know Honda is more deliberate and makes changes slowly. I have
> > seen the people who build Accords. They're less intelligent, less
> > motivated and less...tolerable than any people I've ever had to work
> > around. The difference is in quality control. They don't (for the most
> > part) let lemons go out the door. Also, there's the engineering. The
> > designs are just solid. The "trouble" with Honda is that they'll
> > introduce a new Accord and that's it. And it really isn''t that
> > different from the previous one. Toyota come up with exciting stuff.
> > Honda has always been about the long run. They're content to get you
> > ten years from now, even if they can't get you today.

> Someone needs to explain the transmissions on their six-cylinder
> automobiles then. ?Bejeezus ... I can almost tell you how many miles
> are on an Odyssey by listening to how loud the "CLUNK" is when I put
> it in reverse.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

Well, there is that. Thanks. I had almost forgotten about having to
replace the transmission on my Odyssey when it failed. Think of the
"CLUNK" as a reminder to begin saving money.
 
 
 

Toyota digging a deeper hole?

Post by Jaybyr » Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:18:32


Quote:
> The one thing consumers don't want to hear is cover-ups. ?Toyota will
> survive with high regard thru the current troubled recalls, unless it's
> found by the media there were cover-ups, or profits before safety. I doubt
> consumers will place Toyota quality so high if cover-ups and government
> negotiations are true....

> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/toyota-boasted-savi...

> or

> http://tinyurl.com/yh5uee4

How does this affect all those T.P.S. classes I went to?????
 
 
 

Toyota digging a deeper hole?

Post by xyzz » Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:56:21


Quote:
> Toyota come up with exciting stuff.

Umm, have you looked at Toyota's lineup lately?