Ran out of excuses and so finally had to attend morning bible study(its
right before worship service at beth's church) today.....I did mention
that I had a lot of work to do later today so I'd have to skip out on
worship service, but she seemed really pleased when I agreed to go last
It's a catholic church and she claimed it was pretty open and they were
fairly progressive for a church in the deep south, but when we drive
through the parking lot a W sticker is on every other car. I point
this out and she says "well michael I didn't say it was the
aclu....besides I know of at least one person you can stand who voted
So we get there pretty early, which is apparently the norm because
everyone in the bible class apparently knows each other fairly well and
likes to chat before the lesson starts. They all start making small
talk and gossipping and as it turns out twentysomething catholics
gossip about anything and anybody. There isn't much that is off
limits. Most of it is boring, and I'm wishing the orange juice in my
hand could magically turn into a screwdriver, when someone talks about
how great it is that one of the women in another sunday school class
was finally able to concieve a child with her husband.....what will be
her first kid and she is like 42.
So they start talking about how e***d they are and then the sunday
school leaders(the husnand and wife team who sort of lead the lesson)
say they are glad they had their children earlier because they've read
there are more risks with older women and pregnancy and that they will
be praying that things work out. Me, trying to be helpful, mentions
that there is an increased risk for DS with someone in that age group,
but it's still probably only 1 in 33 or so at age 42-43 and that that's
what amniocentesis is for anyways.......at 16 or so weeks it can detect
whether it is down syndrome(or some other trisomy).
Then one guy named John said "well yeah but I don't see the point of
I'm a little confused, and beth sort of has this "oh **** please don't
tell me this is going where I think it may be going" look on her face.
So I'm sort of oblivious to his point and say "well the point of
amniocentesis is to figure out early enough of any con*** genetic
issues so there is still plenty of time to terminate the pregnancy
should one choose"
And sort of a hush comes over the toom for two seconds(which is a LONG
TIME) then beth saves me by saying "but Im sure a lot of people, even
if they knew they were having a child born with down syndrome would
still have the child and love it and feel that it is a wonderful gift,
and I think john's point was that if that is one's outlook then what's
the point of doing a procedure if you're going to keep and love the
child either way".......
And then a lot of people join in and agree with beth and I'm sort of
sitting there thinking it might be a good idea to just be quiet for a
while(even though I have plenty of argument left in
me)......fortunately the tension is gone thanks to beth though and it
evolved into a general discussion on ethics, religion and medicine.
And as I sat there quietly I *really* wished the orange juice would
make that transformation........
So when bible study is over beth walks me to my car and says "you know
don't feel bad about that today...I've been praying for you to come for
ahile now and I hope this doesn't leave a bad taste in your mouth so
you never come again with me. Good luck studying today"......
So overall judgement: pretty bad....could have been worse.