Pac 10 bowl tie-ins

Pac 10 bowl tie-ins

Post by stephen » Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:26:59


Las Vegas (vs. mountain west)... $1 million
Holiday (vs Big 12) ............ $2.2 million
Emerald (vs ACC) ............... $750,000
Armed Forces (vs Mountain West). $750,000
Sun (vs Big 12 or Big East) .... $1.9 million

and the BCS slot

That sucks. Just 5 bowls outside the BCS, and 2 of those are versus
non-BCS competition. None are on New Years Day.

Total payout is $6.6 million, less than the combined total of just two
of the Big 10/SEC bowls, the Cap One and Outback.

Very weak.

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Post by Jon Ensli » Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:33:38


Quote:
> Las Vegas (vs. mountain west)... $1 million
> Holiday (vs Big 12) ............ $2.2 million
> Emerald (vs ACC) ............... $750,000
> Armed Forces (vs Mountain West). $750,000
> Sun (vs Big 12 or Big East) .... $1.9 million

> and the BCS slot

> That sucks. Just 5 bowls outside the BCS, and 2 of those are versus
> non-BCS competition. None are on New Years Day.

> Total payout is $6.6 million, less than the combined total of just two
> of the Big 10/SEC bowls, the Cap One and Outback.

> Very weak.

Yep.  People have been saying this for years.  The excuse is that fans
won't travel, which I think is nuts....you don't give them any reason
to travel.

Look at the SEC who generally gets two BCS slots, the Cap One, Outback
and Cotton all on New Year's Day (or close).

And you wonder why they always complain about east coast bias.  Stop
showing your games on a crappy television network and play a couple of
bowl games when people will watch.

Jon

 
 
 

Pac 10 bowl tie-ins

Post by unclej » Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:09:50


Quote:
> Las Vegas (vs. mountain west)... $1 million
> Holiday (vs Big 12) ............ $2.2 million
> Emerald (vs ACC) ............... $750,000
> Armed Forces (vs Mountain West). $750,000
> Sun (vs Big 12 or Big East) .... $1.9 million

> and the BCS slot

> That sucks. Just 5 bowls outside the BCS, and 2 of those are versus
> non-BCS competition. None are on New Years Day.

> Total payout is $6.6 million, less than the combined total of just two
> of the Big 10/SEC bowls, the Cap One and Outback.

> Very weak.

IAWTP.  Thank you, Tom Hansen, you overpaid idot!

-Junior

 
 
 

Pac 10 bowl tie-ins

Post by stephen » Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:10:42

Quote:


>>Las Vegas (vs. mountain west)... $1 million
>>Holiday (vs Big 12) ............ $2.2 million
>>Emerald (vs ACC) ............... $750,000
>>Armed Forces (vs Mountain West). $750,000
>>Sun (vs Big 12 or Big East) .... $1.9 million

>>and the BCS slot

>>That sucks. Just 5 bowls outside the BCS, and 2 of those are versus
>>non-BCS competition. None are on New Years Day.

>>Total payout is $6.6 million, less than the combined total of just two
>>of the Big 10/SEC bowls, the Cap One and Outback.

>>Very weak.

> Yep.  People have been saying this for years.  The excuse is that fans
> won't travel, which I think is nuts....you don't give them any reason
> to travel.

> Look at the SEC who generally gets two BCS slots, the Cap One, Outback
> and Cotton all on New Year's Day (or close).

> And you wonder why they always complain about east coast bias.  Stop
> showing your games on a crappy television network and play a couple of
> bowl games when people will watch.

admittedely it might be a chicken-egg situation, but IMO the poor bowl
situation is much more a reflection of a lack of interest in the P10,
than a cause of it.

heck last night ESPN said the Arizona-Oregon game was not a sellout.
That's hard to imagine in a bigger-time conference.

college football just doesn't have the same roots out west as it does in
the south and midwest.

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all the markets were full of fish product. After
collectivization, the fish immediately disappeared."

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Pac 10 bowl tie-ins

Post by Kokopel » Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:13:16

Quote:

> heck last night ESPN said the Arizona-Oregon game was not a sellout.
> That's hard to imagine in a bigger-time conference.

Well, 'zona is a basketball school, and they've been down in football
for quite a while.

Quote:
> college football just doesn't have the same roots out west as it does in
> the south and midwest.

The funny thing is, they've been playing football in the West about as
long as in the Midwest - c.1900.

dw

 
 
 

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Post by stephen » Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:55:43

Quote:


>> heck last night ESPN said the Arizona-Oregon game was not a sellout.
>> That's hard to imagine in a bigger-time conference.

> Well, 'zona is a basketball school, and they've been down in football
> for quite a while.

>> college football just doesn't have the same roots out west as it does
>> in the south and midwest.

> The funny thing is, they've been playing football in the West about as
> long as in the Midwest - c.1900.

yes, but it's never taken hold as deeply in the culture.

--
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all the markets were full of fish product. After
collectivization, the fish immediately disappeared."

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Pac 10 bowl tie-ins

Post by unklbo » Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:25:14


Quote:


> >> heck last night ESPN said the Arizona-Oregon game was not a sellout.
> >> That's hard to imagine in a bigger-time conference.

> > Well, 'zona is a basketball school, and they've been down in football
> > for quite a while.

> >> college football just doesn't have the same roots out west as it does
> >> in the south and midwest.

> > The funny thing is, they've been playing football in the West about as
> > long as in the Midwest - c.1900.

> yes, but it's never taken hold as deeply in the culture.

That's probably true, but there is a lot more things to do out West
year round.  When I lived in the Midwest, I noticed that people go
into hibernation mode mid-October, and don't stick their heads out
until May.
 
 
 

Pac 10 bowl tie-ins

Post by Dave Rei » Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:32:19


Quote:
> Las Vegas (vs. mountain west)... $1 million
> Holiday (vs Big 12) ............ $2.2 million
> Emerald (vs ACC) ............... $750,000
> Armed Forces (vs Mountain West). $750,000
> Sun (vs Big 12 or Big East) .... $1.9 million

> and the BCS slot

> That sucks. Just 5 bowls outside the BCS, and 2 of those are versus
> non-BCS competition. None are on New Years Day.

> Total payout is $6.6 million, less than the combined total of just two
> of the Big 10/SEC bowls, the Cap One and Outback.

> Very weak.

        Thank you Tom Hanson!

        And you haven't even mentioned the bad TV deal they have either.

dave

 
 
 

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Post by Anthony Summer » Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:43:26

Quote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:25:14 -0800 (PST), unklbob wrote...
> That's probably true, but there is a lot more things to do out West
> year round.

Mmmmm... herring.

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Post by unclej » Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:36:09


Quote:
>         Thank you Tom Hanson!

DYHTBQITHCR!  I posted this 3.5 hours before you did.

Quote:
>         And you haven't even mentioned the bad TV deal they have either.

Yes, FSN is Teh Suck, especially if Petros Papadakis is the color
commentator.

-Junior

 
 
 

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Post by unklbo » Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:41:42


Quote:

> >         Thank you Tom Hanson!

> DYHTBQITHCR!  I posted this 3.5 hours before you did.

> >         And you haven't even mentioned the bad TV deal they have either.

> Yes, FSN is Teh Suck, especially if Petros Papadakis is the color
> commentator.

> -Junior

Why are ranking on PP?  Next thing you'll be dissin D'Marco.
 
 
 

Pac 10 bowl tie-ins

Post by Ralph Kenne » Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:38:06

Quote:



> >> heck last night ESPN said the Arizona-Oregon game was not a sellout.
> >> That's hard to imagine in a bigger-time conference.

> > Well, 'zona is a basketball school, and they've been down in football
> > for quite a while.

> >> college football just doesn't have the same roots out west as it does
> >> in the south and midwest.

> > The funny thing is, they've been playing football in the West about as
> > long as in the Midwest - c.1900.

> yes, but it's never taken hold as deeply in the culture.

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Post by dnrap » Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:37:56


Quote:
> Las Vegas (vs. mountain west)... $1 million
> Holiday (vs Big 12) ............ $2.2 million
> Emerald (vs ACC) ............... $750,000
> Armed Forces (vs Mountain West). $750,000
> Sun (vs Big 12 or Big East) .... $1.9 million

> and the BCS slot

> That sucks. Just 5 bowls outside the BCS, and 2 of those are versus
> non-BCS competition. None are on New Years Day.

 The Pac-10's contract with the Rose Bowl says that no Pac-10 team can
be playing in a bowl game opposite the Rose Bowl game. The Rose Bowl
starts around 2:00 pm PT. So another bowl game would have to start
around 10 am. The Pac-10 is not going to want to have their 2nd best
team, playing on NYD being a "road" team in a bowl in the south
against the SEC, ACC, Big East. And starting a bowl game at 10 am on
the west coast is stupid.
 
 
 

Pac 10 bowl tie-ins

Post by stephen » Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:50:18

Quote:


>>Las Vegas (vs. mountain west)... $1 million
>>Holiday (vs Big 12) ............ $2.2 million
>>Emerald (vs ACC) ............... $750,000
>>Armed Forces (vs Mountain West). $750,000
>>Sun (vs Big 12 or Big East) .... $1.9 million

>>and the BCS slot

>>That sucks. Just 5 bowls outside the BCS, and 2 of those are versus
>>non-BCS competition. None are on New Years Day.

>  The Pac-10's contract with the Rose Bowl says that no Pac-10 team can
> be playing in a bowl game opposite the Rose Bowl game.

.. but the Big 10 isn't bound by he same provision? if so, just more
evidence of the Pac 10's second-class status compared to the top BCS
conferences.

Quote:
> The Rose Bowl
> starts around 2:00 pm PT. So another bowl game would have to start
> around 10 am. The Pac-10 is not going to want to have their 2nd best
> team, playing on NYD being a "road" team in a bowl in the south
> against the SEC, ACC, Big East. And starting a bowl game at 10 am on
> the west coast is stupid.

isn't that when NFL games start?

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all the markets were full of fish product. After
collectivization, the fish immediately disappeared."

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Post by Anthony Summer » Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:09:22

Quote:
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:38:06 GMT, Ralph Kennedy wrote...
> > yes, but it's never taken hold as deeply in the culture.

>      "D00d, let's go to the football game, d00d!"

>      "No way, d00d, surf's up!"

There are in fact activities in other parts of the country, Mr. Kennedy.

Enjoyable ones, even.

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