The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

Post by John Roger » Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:03:47


http://SportToday.org/

What Scorsese and All the Rest Know About Roman Polanski That Maybe
You Don't
By Allison Benedikt

If it's weird to you that every filmmaker you've ever liked is taking
Roman Polanski's side in the curent controversy, perhaps it's because
you don't know Polanski like we know Polanski.

Sure, it seems obvious: Polanski***d a kid, Polanski fled the
country, Polanski should pay for his crime. But if all that were true,
why would the world's most prominent filmmakers and artists sign a
petition demanding his release? I'm not just talking cranks like Pedro
Almodovar. Good, stand-up Americans like Wes Anderson and Alexander
Payne are demanding that justice be served by forgetting about all
this*** business. And if you knew Roman Polanski like we know Roman
Polanski, you would surely understand how artistically narrow-minded
it is to treat him like a rapist just because he***d someone.

Maybe you've been reading The Smoking Gun, which has posted the
details of the 1977*** -- and, yes, on the Internet those details
sure seem graphic. But you have to understand: There was no Internet
back then!

Use your sense memory, people. It was a different time -- the heady
days of 1970s Hollywood -- and, as the great Stanislavski said in his
seminal work, "Building a Character," there is truth-truth and then
there is artistic-truth.*** is life!

Maybe you don't know that Roman Polanski is a Holocaust survivor. And
that his wife, Sharon Tate, was ***ed by the Manson family. If you
knew that, you would probably feel bad for him, and forgive him for
raping a child. Why DO bad things happen to good people? It's weird.

Maybe you don't know that Roman Polanski is not just a filmmaker, but
a really really good filmmaker. And certainly you don't know that he
was on his way to a film festival when apprehended. And you must not
know that film festivals are historically sacred ground, havens of
pure cinema where people buy and sell everything but their souls
remain intact.

Maybe you aren't aware -- and really, thanks to author Robert Harris
for pointing this out in today's New York Times --that "Mr. Polanski's
own young children, to whom he is a doting father, want him home. " If
you had known that, surely you would have forgiven him by now. If he's
not around to raise his kids, who would prevent them from getting
***d by good people?

Maybe you don't know that Roman has suffered enough. It's actually a
fact! "The real tragedy," confirms Patrick Goldstein in the L.A.
Times, "is that he will always, till his death, be snubbed and stalked
and confronted by people who think the price he has already paid isn't
enough." That is a tragedy. With all that's been going on, I really
have a newfound respect for rapists that get snubbed. That Oscar Roman
got was really ***ing confrontational. *** statue.

Maybe you don't know that there is a movie that proves everything! Not
really about whether or not Roman***d that kid -- because he did so
that's not an open question -- but about how the judge was whack. When
you really think about it, it was that judge that pushed Roman over
the edge into raping that kid. Does that timeline add up? Julian
Schnabel says yes so believe it.

Maybe you don't know that Roman is old. Like, too old to*** more
girls. It's weird how criminals get older and then turn nice, cause
old people are generally really nice I've found. Did you see The
Bucket List?

Related: "Amid all the noise," writes Movieline's Stu Van Airsdale,
"no one has yet to really mention the most unthinkable consequence
overshadowing all of this: that Polanski, 76, could die in jail,
either fighting his extradition in Switzerland or withering in a cell
in Los Angeles. Surely that couldn't be justice, could it?" Surely
not! Justice would have been for Roman to have served his time back in
the day, which is why he fled. Aha!

Maybe you don't know that there is this question of Why Now? Why,
after all these years, was Roman Polanski apprehended now? Glenn Beck
has some theories on this, involving the Swiss and NBC and Czar Cass
Sunstein, that will blow your mind.

And finally, maybe you aren't aware that the "victim" Samantha Geimer
is totally over it. She is! So why are you still holding a grudge?
Oprah says that in order to live your best life, you have to forgive
others for***. I really believe that. Rapist, heal thyself.

John M. Rogers
AU Class of 1985
The Al Del Greco of Atlanta

"When I signed with Auburn University in 2007, I didn't sign with coaches.
Tuberville wasn't on my scholarship, Coach (James) Willis wasn't on my
scholarship. Auburn University was on my scholarship... I wouldn't want to
be nowhere else."    (Eltoro "The Bull-Free Man" Freeman)

 
 
 

The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

Post by winnar » Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:55:28


Quote:

> Maybe you don't know that Roman Polanski is a Holocaust survivor. And
> that his wife, Sharon Tate, was ***ed by the Manson family. If you
> knew that, you would probably feel bad for him, and forgive him for
> raping a child. Why DO bad things happen to good people? It's weird.

  This doesn't give him a pass to*** a kid.  Period.

winnard

 
 
 

The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

Post by shiit » Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:38:24


Quote:


> > Maybe you don't know that Roman Polanski is a Holocaust survivor. And
> > that his wife, Sharon Tate, was ***ed by the Manson family. If you
> > knew that, you would probably feel bad for him, and forgive him for
> > raping a child. Why DO bad things happen to good people? It's weird.

> ? This doesn't give him a pass to*** a kid. ?Period.

> winnard

"With all that's been going on, I really have a newfound respect for
rapists that get snubbed."  Priceless.

 
 
 

The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

Post by Pauli » Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:36:00


Quote:
> http://SportToday.org/

> What Scorsese and All the Rest Know About Roman Polanski That Maybe
> You Don't
> By Allison Benedikt

> If it's weird to you that every filmmaker you've ever liked is taking
> Roman Polanski's side in the curent controversy, perhaps it's because
> you don't know Polanski like we know Polanski.

> Sure, it seems obvious: Polanski***d a kid, Polanski fled the
> country, Polanski should pay for his crime. But if all that were true,
> why would the world's most prominent filmmakers and artists sign a
> petition demanding his release? I'm not just talking cranks like Pedro
> Almodovar. Good, stand-up Americans like Wes Anderson and Alexander
> Payne are demanding that justice be served by forgetting about all
> this*** business. And if you knew Roman Polanski like we know Roman
> Polanski, you would surely understand how artistically narrow-minded
> it is to treat him like a rapist just because he***d someone.

> Maybe you've been reading The Smoking Gun, which has posted the
> details of the 1977*** -- and, yes, on the Internet those details
> sure seem graphic. But you have to understand: There was no Internet
> back then!

> Use your sense memory, people. It was a different time -- the heady
> days of 1970s Hollywood -- and, as the great Stanislavski said in his
> seminal work, "Building a Character," there is truth-truth and then
> there is artistic-truth.*** is life!

> Maybe you don't know that Roman Polanski is a Holocaust survivor. And
> that his wife, Sharon Tate, was ***ed by the Manson family. If you
> knew that, you would probably feel bad for him, and forgive him for
> raping a child. Why DO bad things happen to good people? It's weird.

> Maybe you don't know that Roman Polanski is not just a filmmaker, but
> a really really good filmmaker. And certainly you don't know that he
> was on his way to a film festival when apprehended. And you must not
> know that film festivals are historically sacred ground, havens of
> pure cinema where people buy and sell everything but their souls
> remain intact.

> Maybe you aren't aware -- and really, thanks to author Robert Harris
> for pointing this out in today's New York Times --that "Mr. Polanski's
> own young children, to whom he is a doting father, want him home. " If
> you had known that, surely you would have forgiven him by now. If he's
> not around to raise his kids, who would prevent them from getting
>***d by good people?

> Maybe you don't know that Roman has suffered enough. It's actually a
> fact! "The real tragedy," confirms Patrick Goldstein in the L.A.
> Times, "is that he will always, till his death, be snubbed and stalked
> and confronted by people who think the price he has already paid isn't
> enough." That is a tragedy. With all that's been going on, I really
> have a newfound respect for rapists that get snubbed. That Oscar Roman
> got was really ***ing confrontational. *** statue.

> Maybe you don't know that there is a movie that proves everything! Not
> really about whether or not Roman***d that kid -- because he did so
> that's not an open question -- but about how the judge was whack. When
> you really think about it, it was that judge that pushed Roman over
> the edge into raping that kid. Does that timeline add up? Julian
> Schnabel says yes so believe it.

> Maybe you don't know that Roman is old. Like, too old to*** more
> girls. It's weird how criminals get older and then turn nice, cause
> old people are generally really nice I've found. Did you see The
> Bucket List?

> Related: "Amid all the noise," writes Movieline's Stu Van Airsdale,
> "no one has yet to really mention the most unthinkable consequence
> overshadowing all of this: that Polanski, 76, could die in jail,
> either fighting his extradition in Switzerland or withering in a cell
> in Los Angeles. Surely that couldn't be justice, could it?" Surely
> not! Justice would have been for Roman to have served his time back in
> the day, which is why he fled. Aha!

> Maybe you don't know that there is this question of Why Now? Why,
> after all these years, was Roman Polanski apprehended now? Glenn Beck
> has some theories on this, involving the Swiss and NBC and Czar Cass
> Sunstein, that will blow your mind.

> And finally, maybe you aren't aware that the "victim" Samantha Geimer
> is totally over it. She is! So why are you still holding a grudge?
> Oprah says that in order to live your best life, you have to forgive
> others for***. I really believe that. Rapist, heal thyself.

> John M. Rogers
> AU Class of 1985
> The Al Del Greco of Atlanta

> "When I signed with Auburn University in 2007, I didn't sign with coaches.
> Tuberville wasn't on my scholarship, Coach (James) Willis wasn't on my
> scholarship. Auburn University was on my scholarship... I wouldn't want to
> be nowhere else." ? ?(Eltoro "The Bull-Free Man" Freeman)

so is this satire?  I ask seriously.
 
 
 

The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

Post by Jon Ensli » Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:42:31


Quote:

> >http://SportToday.org/

> > What Scorsese and All the Rest Know About Roman Polanski That Maybe
> > You Don't
> > By Allison Benedikt

> > If it's weird to you that every filmmaker you've ever liked is taking
> > Roman Polanski's side in the curent controversy, perhaps it's because
> > you don't know Polanski like we know Polanski.

> > Sure, it seems obvious: Polanski***d a kid, Polanski fled the
> > country, Polanski should pay for his crime. But if all that were true,
> > why would the world's most prominent filmmakers and artists sign a
> > petition demanding his release? I'm not just talking cranks like Pedro
> > Almodovar. Good, stand-up Americans like Wes Anderson and Alexander
> > Payne are demanding that justice be served by forgetting about all
> > this*** business. And if you knew Roman Polanski like we know Roman
> > Polanski, you would surely understand how artistically narrow-minded
> > it is to treat him like a rapist just because he***d someone.

> > Maybe you've been reading The Smoking Gun, which has posted the
> > details of the 1977*** -- and, yes, on the Internet those details
> > sure seem graphic. But you have to understand: There was no Internet
> > back then!

> > Use your sense memory, people. It was a different time -- the heady
> > days of 1970s Hollywood -- and, as the great Stanislavski said in his
> > seminal work, "Building a Character," there is truth-truth and then
> > there is artistic-truth.*** is life!

> > Maybe you don't know that Roman Polanski is a Holocaust survivor. And
> > that his wife, Sharon Tate, was ***ed by the Manson family. If you
> > knew that, you would probably feel bad for him, and forgive him for
> > raping a child. Why DO bad things happen to good people? It's weird.

> > Maybe you don't know that Roman Polanski is not just a filmmaker, but
> > a really really good filmmaker. And certainly you don't know that he
> > was on his way to a film festival when apprehended. And you must not
> > know that film festivals are historically sacred ground, havens of
> > pure cinema where people buy and sell everything but their souls
> > remain intact.

> > Maybe you aren't aware -- and really, thanks to author Robert Harris
> > for pointing this out in today's New York Times --that "Mr. Polanski's
> > own young children, to whom he is a doting father, want him home. " If
> > you had known that, surely you would have forgiven him by now. If he's
> > not around to raise his kids, who would prevent them from getting
> >***d by good people?

> > Maybe you don't know that Roman has suffered enough. It's actually a
> > fact! "The real tragedy," confirms Patrick Goldstein in the L.A.
> > Times, "is that he will always, till his death, be snubbed and stalked
> > and confronted by people who think the price he has already paid isn't
> > enough." That is a tragedy. With all that's been going on, I really
> > have a newfound respect for rapists that get snubbed. That Oscar Roman
> > got was really ***ing confrontational. *** statue.

> > Maybe you don't know that there is a movie that proves everything! Not
> > really about whether or not Roman***d that kid -- because he did so
> > that's not an open question -- but about how the judge was whack. When
> > you really think about it, it was that judge that pushed Roman over
> > the edge into raping that kid. Does that timeline add up? Julian
> > Schnabel says yes so believe it.

> > Maybe you don't know that Roman is old. Like, too old to*** more
> > girls. It's weird how criminals get older and then turn nice, cause
> > old people are generally really nice I've found. Did you see The
> > Bucket List?

> > Related: "Amid all the noise," writes Movieline's Stu Van Airsdale,
> > "no one has yet to really mention the most unthinkable consequence
> > overshadowing all of this: that Polanski, 76, could die in jail,
> > either fighting his extradition in Switzerland or withering in a cell
> > in Los Angeles. Surely that couldn't be justice, could it?" Surely
> > not! Justice would have been for Roman to have served his time back in
> > the day, which is why he fled. Aha!

> > Maybe you don't know that there is this question of Why Now? Why,
> > after all these years, was Roman Polanski apprehended now? Glenn Beck
> > has some theories on this, involving the Swiss and NBC and Czar Cass
> > Sunstein, that will blow your mind.

> > And finally, maybe you aren't aware that the "victim" Samantha Geimer
> > is totally over it. She is! So why are you still holding a grudge?
> > Oprah says that in order to live your best life, you have to forgive
> > others for***. I really believe that. Rapist, heal thyself.

> > John M. Rogers
> > AU Class of 1985
> > The Al Del Greco of Atlanta

> > "When I signed with Auburn University in 2007, I didn't sign with coaches.
> > Tuberville wasn't on my scholarship, Coach (James) Willis wasn't on my
> > scholarship. Auburn University was on my scholarship... I wouldn't want to
> > be nowhere else." ? ?(Eltoro "The Bull-Free Man" Freeman)

> so is this satire? ?I ask seriously.

Yes.

Jon

 
 
 

The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

Post by Goro » Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:48:58


Quote:
> http://SportToday.org/

*snip*
> Oprah says that in order to live your best life, you have to forgive
> others for***. I really believe that. Rapist, heal thyself.

This is interesting.  I suppose that Oprah is in favor of repealing
those child molesters registration laws?  I mean, since we have to
forgive, we shouldn't hold their old***s against them.

-goro-

 
 
 

The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

Post by shiit » Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:27:21


Quote:

> >http://SportToday.org/

> *snip*
> > Oprah says that in order to live your best life, you have to forgive
> > others for***. I really believe that. Rapist, heal thyself.

> This is interesting. ?I suppose that Oprah is in favor of repealing
> those child molesters registration laws? ?I mean, since we have to
> forgive, we shouldn't hold their old***s against them.

> -goro-

Orca is something of an expret in these matters. I wood defer to her
judgment at all times.
 
 
 

The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

Post by winnar » Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:29:42



Quote:

> >http://SportToday.org/

> *snip*
> > Oprah says that in order to live your best life, you have to forgive
> > others for***. I really believe that. Rapist, heal thyself.

> This is interesting. I suppose that Oprah is in favor of repealing
> those child molesters registration laws? I mean, since we have to
> forgive, we shouldn't hold their old***s against them.

> -goro-

Orca is something of an expret in these matters. I wood defer to her
judgment at all times.

What kind of sick animal would*** Oprah?

winnard

 
 
 

The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

Post by Jon Ensli » Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:34:54


Quote:

> >http://SportToday.org/

> *snip*
> > Oprah says that in order to live your best life, you have to forgive
> > others for***. I really believe that. Rapist, heal thyself.

> This is interesting. ?I suppose that Oprah is in favor of repealing
> those child molesters registration laws? ?I mean, since we have to
> forgive, we shouldn't hold their old***s against them.

Not to get too far into this, but I think what she is saying that
victims need to forgive attackers to fully help the healing process.
That doesn't mean that society at-large has to forgive them, nor does
it mean that they escape punishment.

Jon

 
 
 

The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

Post by The Ghost of Edward M. Kenned » Sat, 03 Oct 2009 03:55:48


*snip*

Quote:
> Oprah says that in order to live your best life, you have to forgive
> others for***. I really believe that. Rapist, heal thyself.

<
<This is interesting.  I suppose that Oprah is in favor of repealing
<those child molesters registration laws?  I mean, since we have to
<forgive, we shouldn't hold their old***s against them.

Raping old people is just plain wrong.

--Tedward

 
 
 

The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

Post by Tom Enrigh » Sat, 03 Oct 2009 04:20:35


<snip>

Quote:
> finally, maybe you aren't aware that the "victim" Samantha Geimer
> is totally over it. She is! So why are you still holding a grudge?
> Oprah says that in order to live your best life, you have to forgive
> others for***. I really believe that. Rapist, heal thyself.

I wish it was the Village People nailing him.  An eye for an eye and
all that.

-Tom Enright

Quote:
> John M. Rogers
> AU Class of 1985
> The Al Del Greco of Atlanta

> "When I signed with Auburn University in 2007, I didn't sign with coaches.
> Tuberville wasn't on my scholarship, Coach (James) Willis wasn't on my
> scholarship. Auburn University was on my scholarship... I wouldn't want to
> be nowhere else." ? ?(Eltoro "The Bull-Free Man" Freeman)

 
 
 

The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

Post by rastafarians2.. » Sat, 03 Oct 2009 05:19:16


Quote:




> > >http://SportToday.org/

> > *snip*
> > > Oprah says that in order to live your best life, you have to forgive
> > > others for***. I really believe that. Rapist, heal thyself.

> > This is interesting. I suppose that Oprah is in favor of repealing
> > those child molesters registration laws? I mean, since we have to
> > forgive, we shouldn't hold their old***s against them.

> > -goro-

> Orca is something of an expret in these matters. I wood defer to her
> judgment at all times.

> What kind of sick animal would*** Oprah?

IIRC, it was her uncle, when she was 10 or so, but please do continue
to perpetuate the problem of*** by minimizing it.  I think there's a
petition in Hollywood that you'd be happy to sign.
 
 
 

The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

Post by rastafarians2.. » Sat, 03 Oct 2009 05:20:05


Quote:


> > Maybe you don't know that Roman Polanski is a Holocaust survivor. And
> > that his wife, Sharon Tate, was ***ed by the Manson family. If you
> > knew that, you would probably feel bad for him, and forgive him for
> > raping a child. Why DO bad things happen to good people? It's weird.

> ? This doesn't give him a pass to*** a kid. ?Period.

Do you take Stephen Colbert literally too?
 
 
 

The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

Post by The Ghost of Edward M. Kenned » Sat, 03 Oct 2009 05:23:53


Quote:
> > >http://SportToday.org/

> > *snip*
> > > Oprah says that in order to live your best life, you have to forgive
> > > others for***. I really believe that. Rapist, heal thyself.

> > This is interesting. I suppose that Oprah is in favor of repealing
> > those child molesters registration laws? I mean, since we have to
> > forgive, we shouldn't hold their old***s against them.

> > -goro-

> Orca is something of an expret in these matters. I wood defer to her
> judgment at all times.

> What kind of sick animal would*** Oprah?

<
<IIRC, it was her uncle, when she was 10 or so, but please do continue
<to perpetuate the problem of*** by minimizing it.  I think there's a
<petition in Hollywood that you'd be happy to sign.

It's not really*** if she enjoys it.  I think that's what Orca is trying
to say.

--Tedward

 
 
 

The Village Voice nails Roman Polanski

Post by rastafarians2.. » Sat, 03 Oct 2009 05:26:06


Quote:


> > >http://SportToday.org/

> > *snip*
> > > Oprah says that in order to live your best life, you have to forgive
> > > others for***. I really believe that. Rapist, heal thyself.

> > This is interesting. ?I suppose that Oprah is in favor of repealing
> > those child molesters registration laws? ?I mean, since we have to
> > forgive, we shouldn't hold their old***s against them.

> Not to get too far into this, but I think what she is saying that
> victims need to forgive attackers to fully help the healing process.
> That doesn't mean that society at-large has to forgive them, nor does
> it mean that they escape punishment.

Yes.  I'm no big Oprah fan, but as I pointed out in another post, she
was a victim herself around age 10.  I have no idea if the perpetrator
was ever brought to justice, but her point has been that she could
have chosen to let an incident which was beyond her control define her
life.  Or she could try to move on.  Moving on doesn't mean that
criminals should get a free pass.  But it does mean (from her words)
that the more you dwell on it, the more it hurts you.