WPG 41-TOR 41: YET ANOTHER OVERTIME JOKE!

WPG 41-TOR 41: YET ANOTHER OVERTIME JOKE!

Post by Kris Goetin » Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Anybody who says that is exciting football needs to get their heads
checked!

What a pathetic joke!

Four overtime games and two tie games in the first six weeks of the CFL
season. Jeezuz!

They must be kicking their rear ends over at the CFL office for changing
the overtime format this year cuz what do we get: two tie games already
--- not including the two we had in pre-season also!

Again, this is NOT the Canadian game!

Kris

 
 
 

WPG 41-TOR 41: YET ANOTHER OVERTIME JOKE!

Post by robg.. » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00


   >Anybody who says that is exciting football needs to get their heads
   >checked!

   >What a pathetic joke!

   >Four overtime games and two tie games in the first six weeks of the
   >CFL season. Jeezuz!

   >They must be kicking their rear ends over at the CFL office for
   >changing the overtime format this year cuz what do we get: two tie
   >games already --- not including the two we had in pre-season also!
   >Again, this is NOT the Canadian game!

I find it amusing time and again how some people infer nationality as to the
rules of a game.  If it's not "the Canadian game", what is it -- the Chinese
game?

However, change the word "Canadian" in the above critique to "professional"
and you might be on to something.  I don't like breaking ties unnecessarily
at all, but it looks as if a way to bring a tied game to a fairly swift
decision in high school football does no such thing at the professional
level, even with the adjustment in starting line.  The level of play in pro
ball, especially using current Canadian rules, seems to make it too easy to
score, and too easy to match scores, when starting from close in.

Robert
Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Registered

 
 
 

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Post by marc » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00

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> Anybody who says that is exciting football needs to get their heads
> checked!

> What a pathetic joke!

> Four overtime games and two tie games in the first six weeks of the CFL
> season. Jeezuz!

> They must be kicking their rear ends over at the CFL office for changing
> the overtime format this year cuz what do we get: two tie games already
> --- not including the two we had in pre-season also!

> Again, this is NOT the Canadian game!

> Kris

 Actually, I found it kind of interesting.  I had turned on the tube to
watch the Calgary-BC game, but the Winnipeg-Toronto game was tied 24-24 and
just going into overtime.  It was the first opportunity I had to see what
all the fuss was about the new format.  After reading some of the postings
here, I thought I finally understood the new rules.  But after Toronto
scored its first OT touchdown, I was surprised to see the Argos still had
possession of the ball (thought I had momentarily blacked out and missed
Winnipeg's turn!)  But apparently after scoring, that team has the option to
retain possession.

 After watching this, the Stamps-Lions game was already well under-way...too
bad they couldn't delay its start, but I suppose that wouldn't be fair to
the fans at BC Place.  Although I was cheering for Calgary, the game was too
one-sided for my liking.  That BC backup QB was impressive, although it was
too little, too late.

marc


 
 
 

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Post by Ron Gib » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>  After watching this, the Stamps-Lions game was already well under-way...too
> bad they couldn't delay its start, but I suppose that wouldn't be fair to
> the fans at BC Place.

Especially given the number of play stoppages that we already have to
endure for television commercials.

  Although I was cheering for Calgary, the game was too

Quote:
> one-sided for my liking.  That BC backup QB was impressive, although it was
> too little, too late.

You mean Sean Millington was impressive.  Doug Nussmeir (sp?) scrambled
around a lot and played with some enthusiasm, but his passes were very
poorly thrown.  There was one intended for Don Blair down the seam that
was at least six feet over his head.  What happened at the end of the game
was that the Calgary defense played soft (for good reason) allowing
Millington to make some runs off screen passes.  Earlier in the game,
these same plays were going nowhere.  Also, B.C. managed a touchdown off a
fumble by Marvin Coleman. This game was men against boys Marc, and the
events of the last nine minutes should not be the cause of any false
optimism by the Lions, or their fans.

Ron Gibbs
Vancouver

 
 
 

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Post by Ca.. » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00

In time if Nussmier got the reps, he would be better. It's hard to
realize Allen is so inconsistent.

It's true the Stamps may let up a little, but these are pros and
Nissmeir did play well.

Quote:



>>  After watching this, the Stamps-Lions game was already well under-way...too
>> bad they couldn't delay its start, but I suppose that wouldn't be fair to
>> the fans at BC Place.

>Especially given the number of play stoppages that we already have to
>endure for television commercials.

>  Although I was cheering for Calgary, the game was too
>> one-sided for my liking.  That BC backup QB was impressive, although it was
>> too little, too late.

>You mean Sean Millington was impressive.  Doug Nussmeir (sp?) scrambled
>around a lot and played with some enthusiasm, but his passes were very
>poorly thrown.  There was one intended for Don Blair down the seam that
>was at least six feet over his head.  What happened at the end of the game
>was that the Calgary defense played soft (for good reason) allowing
>Millington to make some runs off screen passes.  Earlier in the game,
>these same plays were going nowhere.  Also, B.C. managed a touchdown off a
>fumble by Marvin Coleman. This game was men against boys Marc, and the
>events of the last nine minutes should not be the cause of any false
>optimism by the Lions, or their fans.

>Ron Gibbs
>Vancouver

 
 
 

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Post by Kirk Doole » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> Anybody who says that is exciting football needs to get their heads
> checked!

> What a pathetic joke!

> Four overtime games and two tie games in the first six weeks of the CFL
> season. Jeezuz!

> They must be kicking their rear ends over at the CFL office for changing
> the overtime format this year cuz what do we get: two tie games already
> --- not including the two we had in pre-season also!

> Again, this is NOT the Canadian game!

> Kris

I've been following this argument about the new form of OT, and I'm tired of
holding my tongue (or in this case, my typing fingers).

The old method (two 5-minute periods) led to blowout OTs (I remember a
Montreal-Toronto playoff game in the 70's where the Alouettes scored 24
points in the OT to the Argos 3. The Ex was empty after the first OT,
because the game was over for all intents and purposes.)

The argument about sudden-victory is that the game can be decided by a coin
flip (although only once has an NFL OT been decided by a kickoff return, and
the team that gets the ball first wins the game on the first possession very
rarely).

My guess is that the Bombers went for the tie to deprive the Argos of the
bonus point for winning the "shootout". (Although, to be honest, I don't
know exactly what the situation was at the time--the Bombers may well have
been backed up so far that going for it may not have been a realistic
option.) From a coach's POV that would be the smart thing to do. From a
fan's POV, it sucks. (BTW, the NCAA--where the CFL picked up this idea
from--plays it out completely. After the 3rd OT, teams must go for two after
TDs. One game went 5 OTs before a decision was reached, but at least a
decision was reached. As far as I'm concerned, the tie is the coaches
cop-out. And I've seen some very ugly sister kisses.)

Personally, I think that the point for regulation ties should be dropped
since it tends to make teams play for OT in the first place. Either that, or
a regulation win should be worth 3 points, and OT win worth 2, and a tie or
OT loss worth one.

--
Kirk Dooley
Mesa, AZ

"I'm young enough to sow wild oats--but so old I've forgotten how."

 
 
 

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Post by Ron Gib » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> In time if Nussmier got the reps, he would be better. It's hard to
> realize Allen is so inconsistent.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Damon shouldn't have to
shoulder the blame for what is happening to the Lions this season.  He
doesn't get much help from his teammates, and he has to put up with the
play calling of that bonehead
Paopao who has designed the most ineffective offensive scheme that I can
remember in the CFL for quite some time.  (Probably an exaggeration, but I
have to watch it nine times a year (-:).

Ron Gibbs
Vancouver

 
 
 

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Post by Brian Tol » Sun, 13 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Huh?
Quote:

> Personally, I think that the point for regulation ties should be dropped
> since it tends to make teams play for OT in the first place. Either that, or
> a regulation win should be worth 3 points, and OT win worth 2, and a tie or
> OT loss worth one.