Georgia - Georgia Tech Officiating

Georgia - Georgia Tech Officiating

Post by Robert Stewar » Sun, 29 Nov 1998 04:00:00


Bulldog fans now know how Aggie fans feel. Failure to call a fumble cost
the bulldogs the victory.

Don't let getting screwed become a pattern of behavior, Georgia fans.
Act now!

 
 
 

Georgia - Georgia Tech Officiating

Post by Mark William Hopki » Sun, 29 Nov 1998 04:00:00

(1) Coin toss as usual to determine who's kicking and who's receiving.
(2) The kicking team elects to play for 1-8 points over the final score.
(3) The game ends when either
       (a) one of the teams reaches or passes the indicated score
    or (b) the overtime period ends
(4) In playoffs or college ball, successive periods are started as needed
    until either
       (a) one of the teams finally reaches or passes the indicated score
    or (b) the overtime period ends with the tie broken

The process in rule (2) is called "setting the score".  A special case of
setting the score is if the kicking team elects to play for 1 or 2.  This
means exactly the same thing as Sudden Death overtime, so the process is
then called "setting Sudden Death" (or "returning to Sudden Death" in pro
ball).

Usually, the kicking team will elect for either 2, 3, 6 or 8, which are
known respectively as OT in 2 (or Sudden Death), OT in 3 (or OT in a FG),
OT in 6 (or OT in a TD) and OT in 8 (or Slow Death, or sometimes called
"Sequestering the game").

Since the kicking team gets to set the score, there are no return possessions
like they have in that namby-pamby World Cup-inspired overtime rule in college
football.

And none of that wimpy setting the ball at the 35 or whatever either.  That's
for coed football!  You might as well strap on flags and outlaw tackles too.

Example:
   It's the first playoff round of the 2002 season.  The Packers and Bears are
facing off at Green Bay -- a rematch of the Super Bowl following the 2001
season (see www.csd.uwm.edu/~hunk/football/pro for details on the 2001
season).  It's a rough, hard-fought game and the 4th quarter ends with the
score tied at 13 -- just another game in this, the 3rd oldest rivalry in
the NFL.

   The Packers win the coin toss and elect to receive.  The Bears go against
tradition and elect to play for 7 more, setting the score at 20.

   On the first possession, the Packers slowly and methodically get the ball
all the way down to the Bears 5 before they are stopped.  A field goal is
kicked and it's 16-13, Green Bay.  The Bears get the ball and return it all
the way on the kickoff.  It's 19-16 Chicago and it looks like the game is
about to be over.

   But the extra point is blocked!  Watching their TV's at home in Chicago
the Bears fans are booing the coach for not setting the score at 19 for
OT in a TD.

   The Packers get the ball and manage to slowly and methodically move it down
inside the 20.  But the ball is intercepted in the end zone and returned all
the way back to the 50.  The ball is advanced barely within range for a long
field goal, but the Packers defense stops the Bears from making a first down.
   Time's run down to under a minute, and the Bears punt.  So the Packers get
the ball back, with only 45 seconds left.  The ball is advanced past midfield,
but then the offense is stopped cold, managing only to bring it far enough to
get an opportunity, with only 5 seconds left, for a 55 yard field goal.

   If the Packers miss this field goal, overtime will expire and the game
will end with the final score being 19-16.

   Just as the clock expires, the kick bounces off the crossbar and falls,
landing right on the cross bar, where it sits for about 5 seconds.  A gust of
wind pushes the ball over on the scoring side of the crossbar and overtime
ends with the score at 19-19.

   And so, to this day the game is known as the Wind Bowl.

   In regular season, the game would be a 19-19 tie, but this is a playoff
game, so overtime continues into a second period, and the Packers kick off
following their field goal.

   Possession changes a few more times and the clock winds down again, and
with just 1 second left one of the teams manages to get the ball in range
for a 60 yard field goal and decides to go for it.  It goes up, up, up and
it's good!  The final score is 22-19.

 
 
 

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Post by Srjori » Mon, 30 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>Bulldog fans now know how Aggie fans feel. Failure to call a fumble cost
>the bulldogs the victory.

>Don't let getting screwed become a pattern of behavior, Georgia fans.
>Act now!

Just think of it as payback from last year.

 
 
 

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Post by Robert.Gret » Mon, 30 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> Bulldog fans now know how Aggie fans feel. Failure to call a fumble cost
> the bulldogs the victory.
> Don't let getting screwed become a pattern of behavior, Georgia fans.
> Act now!

  Hey it's fair payback.

  See Tech vs Georgia 97... phantom interference call on Tech interception.

  The offenses and defenses actually had time to switch out before a flag
  was thrown.

 
 
 

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Post by tape.. » Mon, 30 Nov 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
> (1) Coin toss as usual to determine who's kicking and who's receiving.
> (2) The kicking team elects to play for 1-8 points over the final score.
> (3) The game ends when either
>        (a) one of the teams reaches or passes the indicated score
>     or (b) the overtime period ends
> (4) In playoffs or college ball, successive periods are started as needed
>     until either
>        (a) one of the teams finally reaches or passes the indicated score
>     or (b) the overtime period ends with the tie broken

> The process in rule (2) is called "setting the score".  A special case of
> setting the score is if the kicking team elects to play for 1 or 2.  This
> means exactly the same thing as Sudden Death overtime, so the process is
> then called "setting Sudden Death" (or "returning to Sudden Death" in pro
> ball).

> Usually, the kicking team will elect for either 2, 3, 6 or 8, which are
> known respectively as OT in 2 (or Sudden Death), OT in 3 (or OT in a FG),
> OT in 6 (or OT in a TD) and OT in 8 (or Slow Death, or sometimes called
> "Sequestering the game").

> Since the kicking team gets to set the score, there are no return possessions
> like they have in that namby-pamby World Cup-inspired overtime rule in college
> football.

> And none of that wimpy setting the ball at the 35 or whatever either.  That's
> for coed football!  You might as well strap on flags and outlaw tackles too.

> Example:
>    It's the first playoff round of the 2002 season.  The Packers and Bears are
> facing off at Green Bay -- a rematch of the Super Bowl following the 2001
> season (see www.csd.uwm.edu/~hunk/football/pro for details on the 2001
> season).  It's a rough, hard-fought game and the 4th quarter ends with the
> score tied at 13 -- just another game in this, the 3rd oldest rivalry in
> the NFL.

>    The Packers win the coin toss and elect to receive.  The Bears go against
> tradition and elect to play for 7 more, setting the score at 20.

>    On the first possession, the Packers slowly and methodically get the ball
> all the way down to the Bears 5 before they are stopped.  A field goal is
> kicked and it's 16-13, Green Bay.  The Bears get the ball and return it all
> the way on the kickoff.  It's 19-16 Chicago and it looks like the game is
> about to be over.

>    But the extra point is blocked!  Watching their TV's at home in Chicago
> the Bears fans are booing the coach for not setting the score at 19 for
> OT in a TD.

>    The Packers get the ball and manage to slowly and methodically move it down
> inside the 20.  But the ball is intercepted in the end zone and returned all
> the way back to the 50.  The ball is advanced barely within range for a long
> field goal, but the Packers defense stops the Bears from making a first down.
>    Time's run down to under a minute, and the Bears punt.  So the Packers get
> the ball back, with only 45 seconds left.  The ball is advanced past midfield,
> but then the offense is stopped cold, managing only to bring it far enough to
> get an opportunity, with only 5 seconds left, for a 55 yard field goal.

>    If the Packers miss this field goal, overtime will expire and the game
> will end with the final score being 19-16.

>    Just as the clock expires, the kick bounces off the crossbar and falls,
> landing right on the cross bar, where it sits for about 5 seconds.  A gust of
> wind pushes the ball over on the scoring side of the crossbar and overtime
> ends with the score at 19-19.

>    And so, to this day the game is known as the Wind Bowl.

>    In regular season, the game would be a 19-19 tie, but this is a playoff
> game, so overtime continues into a second period, and the Packers kick off
> following their field goal.

>    Possession changes a few more times and the clock winds down again, and
> with just 1 second left one of the teams manages to get the ball in range
> for a 60 yard field goal and decides to go for it.  It goes up, up, up and
> it's good!  The final score is 22-19.

what a complete waste of effort

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Post by mikedal.. » Wed, 02 Dec 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> Bulldog fans now know how Aggie fans feel. Failure to call a fumble cost
> the bulldogs the victory.

> Don't let getting screwed become a pattern of behavior, Georgia fans.
> Act now!

After Hamilton fumbled, both he and the Georgia player who tried to recover it
were out of bounds when they touched the ball on the recovery. Therefore, it
still should have been Tech's ball. Even though the officials screwed it up,
they still got it right "by accident".

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Post by James O'Qui » Fri, 04 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>Bulldog fans now know how Aggie fans feel. Failure to call a fumble cost
>the bulldogs the victory.

>Don't let getting screwed become a pattern of behavior, Georgia fans.
>Act now!

Actually, there was pass interference against UGA on the one or two
yardline, but the officials ignored that.  If they had called it, then
there would never have been a fumble.  Both teams got away with one
there.  I know that you dawg lovers will think i am fishing, but i
clearly remember the announcers remarking that "Georgia really got
away with that one...."
 
 
 

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Post by Ted Rathkop » Fri, 04 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> Bulldog fans now know how Aggie fans feel. Failure to call a fumble cost
> the bulldogs the victory.

I'll admit that it was the wrong call, but the results were correct.

The call should have been a funmble, BUT before the fumble was
recovered, the ball was touched by a player who was out of bounds.
At that point the ball was dead, with Tech retaining posession.