Does anyone know anything about McAllister this weekend?

Does anyone know anything about McAllister this weekend?

Post by Samkon Gad » Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:54:31


I've got Fragile Fred in as my no.2 RB right now but I'd rather insert
Deuce.  Has anyone heard anything?
 
 
 

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Post by giantforeve » Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:12:36

Quote:

> I've got Fragile Fred in as my no.2 RB right now but I'd rather insert
> Deuce.  Has anyone heard anything?

He's healthy and he's the starter.  He's playing against CLE, use the
Duece.

 
 
 

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Post by Ken » Mon, 11 Sep 2006 07:00:35


Quote:


>> I've got Fragile Fred in as my no.2 RB right now but I'd rather insert
>> Deuce.  Has anyone heard anything?

> He's healthy and he's the starter.  He's playing against CLE, use the
> Duece.

From what I've read, Deuce will get most first and second down plays, be
spelled on third, and get goal-line carries--amounting to about 60% or maybe
a little more. However, if Bush plays well while he's in the game, he will
gradually eat away at Deuce's time. The Saint would be wise to begin seeking
trade options for Deuce if Bush can punch it in at the goal though.

Ken

 
 
 

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Post by giantforeve » Mon, 11 Sep 2006 07:44:35

Quote:




> >> I've got Fragile Fred in as my no.2 RB right now but I'd rather insert
> >> Deuce.  Has anyone heard anything?

> > He's healthy and he's the starter.  He's playing against CLE, use the
> > Duece.

> From what I've read, Deuce will get most first and second down plays, be
> spelled on third, and get goal-line carries--amounting to about 60% or maybe
> a little more. However, if Bush plays well while he's in the game, he will
> gradually eat away at Deuce's time. The Saint would be wise to begin seeking
> trade options for Deuce if Bush can punch it in at the goal though.

> Ken

I'm thinking Bush is going to learn how fast the NFL defenses really
are, and will struggle early.
 
 
 

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Post by Ken » Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:54:38


Quote:





>> >> I've got Fragile Fred in as my no.2 RB right now but I'd rather insert
>> >> Deuce.  Has anyone heard anything?

>> > He's healthy and he's the starter.  He's playing against CLE, use the
>> > Duece.

>> From what I've read, Deuce will get most first and second down plays, be
>> spelled on third, and get goal-line carries--amounting to about 60% or
>> maybe
>> a little more. However, if Bush plays well while he's in the game, he
>> will
>> gradually eat away at Deuce's time. The Saint would be wise to begin
>> seeking
>> trade options for Deuce if Bush can punch it in at the goal though.

>> Ken

> I'm thinking Bush is going to learn how fast the NFL defenses really
> are, and will struggle early.

I don't doubt that at all. Look at Larry Johnson; he had the same problem
until he learned how to be patient on holes opening and picking up on his
blockers. Until he found his rhythm, he had little value to his team or FF.
Now look at him. That stuff can't be taught, but I have a feeling Bush will
pick it up sooner rather than later.

Ken

 
 
 

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Post by Brad Darnel » Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:13:23

Why would they trade away Deuce, he is a proven RB with talent. He can run
between the tackles and do the things that Bush is not going to be able to
do. It would be smart to keep both backs.
Brad

Quote:




>>> I've got Fragile Fred in as my no.2 RB right now but I'd rather insert
>>> Deuce.  Has anyone heard anything?

>> He's healthy and he's the starter.  He's playing against CLE, use the
>> Duece.

> From what I've read, Deuce will get most first and second down plays, be
> spelled on third, and get goal-line carries--amounting to about 60% or
> maybe a little more. However, if Bush plays well while he's in the game,
> he will gradually eat away at Deuce's time. The Saint would be wise to
> begin seeking trade options for Deuce if Bush can punch it in at the goal
> though.

> Ken

 
 
 

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Post by Ken » Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:22:30


Quote:
> Why would they trade away Deuce, he is a proven RB with talent. He can run
> between the tackles and do the things that Bush is not going to be able to
> do. It would be smart to keep both backs.
> Brad





>>>> I've got Fragile Fred in as my no.2 RB right now but I'd rather insert
>>>> Deuce.  Has anyone heard anything?

>>> He's healthy and he's the starter.  He's playing against CLE, use the
>>> Duece.

>> From what I've read, Deuce will get most first and second down plays, be
>> spelled on third, and get goal-line carries--amounting to about 60% or
>> maybe a little more. However, if Bush plays well while he's in the game,
>> he will gradually eat away at Deuce's time. The Saint would be wise to
>> begin seeking trade options for Deuce if Bush can punch it in at the goal
>> though.

>> Ken

1. Deuce eats up a lot of salary space.
2. He's damaged from injuries, and Bush has less trouble in that area and
wear on his body.
3. With the exception of Denver, it is very difficult to give enough balls
to two RBs for either of them to get into a rhythm and produce decent
numbers
4. The Saints can find a free agent to do any heavy lifting (goal line
maybe) that Bush can't do as well for a fraction of the price
5. The Saints need significant improvement in several other areas

Need I go on?

Ken

 
 
 

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Post by charles shelto » Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:42:32


Quote:

> 1. Deuce eats up a lot of salary space.
> 2. He's damaged from injuries, and Bush has less trouble in that area and
> wear on his body.

they'd have a hard time moving him for these two reasons.  what's more
likely is that he becomes a cap victim & gets cut if bush emerges as the
every down back.
Quote:
> 3. With the exception of Denver, it is very difficult to give enough balls
> to two RBs for either of them to get into a rhythm and produce decent
> numbers
> 4. The Saints can find a free agent to do any heavy lifting (goal line
> maybe) that Bush can't do as well for a fraction of the price
> 5. The Saints need significant improvement in several other areas

> Need I go on?

> Ken

 
 
 

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Post by Samkon Gad » Wed, 13 Sep 2006 03:26:38

Side note:  I started Fred instead of Deuce and it worked out.  I know
it's a little early to get e***d about Taylor but he was damn
impressive against a tough Dallas D.  To Sir Creep's chagrin Matt Jones
had a decent game I thought, despite not getting into the endzone.

Other side of the spectrum, I was not very impressed with Dominic
Rhodes, despite his TD.

 
 
 

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Post by charles shelto » Wed, 13 Sep 2006 03:59:43


Quote:

> Side note:  I started Fred instead of Deuce and it worked out.  I know
> it's a little early to get e***d about Taylor but he was damn
> impressive against a tough Dallas D.  To Sir Creep's chagrin Matt Jones
> had a decent game I thought, despite not getting into the endzone.

> Other side of the spectrum, I was not very impressed with Dominic
> Rhodes, despite his TD.

that late td certainly helped taylor's cause.  i think the jags are going to
be a tough team to beat this year, but i still wouldn't be thrilled about
starting of their players.  i agree with your assessment on rhodes, but the
giants are a pretty good team.  i think considering they play the titans and
texans twice, i wouldn't mind having him on my roster for those games.  same
could be said for taylor.

-charles

 
 
 

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Post by Samkon Gad » Wed, 13 Sep 2006 04:22:42

Quote:

> that late td certainly helped taylor's cause.  i think the jags are going to
> be a tough team to beat this year, but i still wouldn't be thrilled about
> starting of their players.  i agree with your assessment on rhodes, but the
> giants are a pretty good team.  i think considering they play the titans and
> texans twice, i wouldn't mind having him on my roster for those games.  same
> could be said for taylor.

> -charles

Well not to start the whole Matt Jones debate in this thread, but he is
a totally solid #3 WR in a 12 team league.  Yeah the Jacksonville
system seems a bit suspect, but Leftwich was definitely forcing the
issue as far as the passing offense was concerned.  He looked at Jones
several times in the 2nd half and had what I would call moderate
success against a supposed top 10 defense.

The thing I loved to see out of Jacksonville was their willingness to
get Taylor involved on the checkdown plays, as we get points for
receptions in our league.  I know the Fred Taylor road leads to
disappointment but I am at least a little e***d that he performed
that well yesterday.  E***d enough to guarantee him a spot of Dominic
Rhodes at least.

 
 
 

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Post by charles shelto » Wed, 13 Sep 2006 04:36:58


Quote:


>> that late td certainly helped taylor's cause.  i think the jags are going
>> to
>> be a tough team to beat this year, but i still wouldn't be thrilled about
>> starting of their players.  i agree with your assessment on rhodes, but
>> the
>> giants are a pretty good team.  i think considering they play the titans
>> and
>> texans twice, i wouldn't mind having him on my roster for those games.
>> same
>> could be said for taylor.

>> -charles

> Well not to start the whole Matt Jones debate in this thread, but he is
> a totally solid #3 WR in a 12 team league.  Yeah the Jacksonville
> system seems a bit suspect, but Leftwich was definitely forcing the
> issue as far as the passing offense was concerned.  He looked at Jones
> several times in the 2nd half and had what I would call moderate
> success against a supposed top 10 defense.

> The thing I loved to see out of Jacksonville was their willingness to
> get Taylor involved on the checkdown plays, as we get points for
> receptions in our league.  I know the Fred Taylor road leads to
> disappointment but I am at least a little e***d that he performed
> that well yesterday.  E***d enough to guarantee him a spot of Dominic
> Rhodes at least.

yeah i agree with this part.  i'm from jacksonville, so i'm a huge fan of
theirs and naturally very familiar with the team.  we need taylor to be good
to have any shot of making noise this year, so i try not to get too e***d
about him since i don't want to jinx him :).  one thing about jones that i
do like, is that the jags aren't really good at running the ball in short
yardage, so i think the fade will become their favorite play in the redzone,
and given the size of the 3 jags receivers, i wouldn't be surprised to see
any or all of them end up with decent td totals (8+).  certainly i agree
that jones is a worthy #3 wr on any roster and worth a start depending on
the matchup.  i was really impressed with williams...the knock on him has
been lack of effort, but i certainly didn't see that yesterday.  he followed
up a pretty good preseason with a good effort yesterday, so he might be
worth a look if you have an extra bench spot and are looking for some depth
at wr.  i would especially look for matchups with teams that do not defend
the run very well.  in those games, i think teams will commit a safety to
the box, really opening up things up for the jags passing attack.  i
wouldn't play them in games where teams typically can defend the run with 7,
since i don't think the jags wrs get enough separation to consistently get
open vs a cover 2 defense.

-charles