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Friday Quiz

Post by Ralph Kenne » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 07:45:26


     Quiz:  Which are the only three governments of our
            allies on the record as in favor of Bush
            winning the 2004 election?

   Answer:  Poland, Nigeria, and the Philippines.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice

 
 
 

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Post by Czar Christopher I (R » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:13:25

:
:
:      Quiz:  Which are the only three governments of our
:             allies on the record as in favor of Bush
:             winning the 2004 election?
:
:
:    Answer:  Poland, Nigeria, and the Philippines.

Saudi Arabia?  Oh, you said "allies."

Seriously, though, the proper thing for any foreign government
to do would be to avoid going on record about our elections.
So even if they were to favor Bush, many governments wouldn't
say so.  (Or if they favored Kerry, for that matter.)

--
Czar Christopher I                     rec.sport.football.college
   "I'm not aware of anyone in the White House who is aware of
      anyone who's aware that the President ever was aware of
     having made such a comment." --Scott McClellan, 7/21/2004

 
 
 

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Post by I am Jack's utter apath » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:30:25

"Ralph Kennedy" shot me once.... ONCE:

Quote:

>      Quiz:  Which are the only three governments of our
>        allies on the record as in favor of Bush
>        winning the 2004 election?

>    Answer:  Poland, Nigeria, and the Philippines.

I'm shocked any foreign government at all has an official stance on the
matter.  And frankly, I give less than half a shit what Poland, Nigeria,
the Phillippines, France, Britain, Italy, Germany, or anyone else who's
not the United States of America thinks about how the United States of
America should run our elections or who should win them.

--
TO
Turn those machines back on!  TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK OOONNN!!

 
 
 

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Post by Ralph Kenne » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:37:41


Quote:

> :
> :
> :      Quiz:  Which are the only three governments of our
> :             allies on the record as in favor of Bush
> :             winning the 2004 election?
> :
> :
> :    Answer:  Poland, Nigeria, and the Philippines.

> Saudi Arabia?  Oh, you said "allies."

> Seriously, though, the proper thing for any foreign government
> to do would be to avoid going on record about our elections.
> So even if they were to favor Bush, many governments wouldn't
> say so.  (Or if they favored Kerry, for that matter.)

     What are you trying to say, Czar?  That I shouldn't
be employing the Republican methodology of using cheapass
meaningless facts to manipulate and distort the truth?  :)

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice

 
 
 

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Post by PeeteyJohns » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:54:04

Quote:
>Quiz:  Which are the only three governments of our
>        allies on the record as in favor of Bush
>        winning the 2004 election?

>   Answer:  Poland, Nigeria, and the Philippines.

And, of our allies,  who's on the record for Kerry winning the 2004 election?
Hmm?
 
 
 

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Post by Ralph Kenne » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:58:41


Quote:
> "Ralph Kennedy" shot me once.... ONCE:

> >      Quiz:  Which are the only three governments of our
> >           allies on the record as in favor of Bush
> >           winning the 2004 election?

> >    Answer:  Poland, Nigeria, and the Philippines.

> I'm shocked any foreign government at all has an official stance on the
> matter.  And frankly, I give less than half a shit what Poland, Nigeria,
> the Phillippines, France, Britain, Italy, Germany, or anyone else who's
> not the United States of America thinks about how the United States of
> America should run our elections or who should win them.


--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice

 
 
 

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Post by Jefferson N. Glapsk » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:16:55



Quote:

> :
> :
> :      Quiz:  Which are the only three governments of our
> :             allies on the record as in favor of Bush
> :             winning the 2004 election?
> :
> :
> :    Answer:  Poland, Nigeria, and the Philippines.

> Saudi Arabia?  Oh, you said "allies."

But all they did was fund Islamic education and Hamas.

Quote:
> Seriously, though, the proper thing for any foreign government
> to do would be to avoid going on record about our elections.
> So even if they were to favor Bush, many governments wouldn't
> say so.  (Or if they favored Kerry, for that matter.)

Exactly. Any foreign government that says so, either way, should be ignored.

--
Jefferson N. Glapski
http://www.glapski.com

 
 
 

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Post by Eggma » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:35:58


called Plush Funk?

Quote:


>> :
>> :
>> :      Quiz:  Which are the only three governments of our
>> :             allies on the record as in favor of Bush
>> :             winning the 2004 election?
>> :
>> :
>> :    Answer:  Poland, Nigeria, and the Philippines.

>> Saudi Arabia?  Oh, you said "allies."

>> Seriously, though, the proper thing for any foreign government
>> to do would be to avoid going on record about our elections.
>> So even if they were to favor Bush, many governments wouldn't
>> say so.  (Or if they favored Kerry, for that matter.)

>      What are you trying to say, Czar?  That I shouldn't
> be employing the Republican methodology of using cheapass
> meaningless facts to manipulate and distort the truth?  :)

I can't speak for the Czar but that is what I am saying.

Eggman

 
 
 

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Post by Ralph Kenne » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:38:04

Quote:




> >> :
> >> :
> >> :      Quiz:  Which are the only three governments of our
> >> :             allies on the record as in favor of Bush
> >> :             winning the 2004 election?
> >> :
> >> :
> >> :    Answer:  Poland, Nigeria, and the Philippines.

> >> Saudi Arabia?  Oh, you said "allies."

> >> Seriously, though, the proper thing for any foreign government
> >> to do would be to avoid going on record about our elections.
> >> So even if they were to favor Bush, many governments wouldn't
> >> say so.  (Or if they favored Kerry, for that matter.)

> >      What are you trying to say, Czar?  That I shouldn't
> > be employing the Republican methodology of using cheapass
> > meaningless facts to manipulate and distort the truth?  :)

> I can't speak for the Czar but that is what I am saying.

     I'm glad you see my point.  So I take it we'll be
hearing no more nonsense about how Kerry is an indecisive
flip-flopper because "first he voted for it, then he voted
against it" with regard to Iraq?

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice

 
 
 

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Post by Czar Christopher I (R » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:57:11



: > :
: > :
: > :      Quiz:  Which are the only three governments of our
: > :             allies on the record as in favor of Bush
: > :             winning the 2004 election?
: > :
: > :
: > :    Answer:  Poland, Nigeria, and the Philippines.
: >
: > Saudi Arabia?  Oh, you said "allies."
: >
: > Seriously, though, the proper thing for any foreign government
: > to do would be to avoid going on record about our elections.
: > So even if they were to favor Bush, many governments wouldn't
: > say so.  (Or if they favored Kerry, for that matter.)
:
:      What are you trying to say, Czar?  That I shouldn't
: be employing the Republican methodology of using cheapass
: meaningless facts to manipulate and distort the truth?  :)

Oops, sorry, carry on.

--
Czar Christopher I                     rec.sport.football.college
   "I'm not aware of anyone in the White House who is aware of
      anyone who's aware that the President ever was aware of
     having made such a comment." --Scott McClellan, 7/21/2004

 
 
 

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Post by Eggma » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:58:07


thing called Plush Funk?

Quote:




>> >> :
>> >> :
>> >> :      Quiz:  Which are the only three governments of our
>> >> :             allies on the record as in favor of Bush
>> >> :             winning the 2004 election?
>> >> :
>> >> :
>> >> :    Answer:  Poland, Nigeria, and the Philippines.

>> >> Saudi Arabia?  Oh, you said "allies."

>> >> Seriously, though, the proper thing for any foreign government
>> >> to do would be to avoid going on record about our elections.
>> >> So even if they were to favor Bush, many governments wouldn't
>> >> say so.  (Or if they favored Kerry, for that matter.)

>> >      What are you trying to say, Czar?  That I shouldn't
>> > be employing the Republican methodology of using cheapass
>> > meaningless facts to manipulate and distort the truth?  :)

>> I can't speak for the Czar but that is what I am saying.

>      I'm glad you see my point.  So I take it we'll be
> hearing no more nonsense about how Kerry is an indecisive
> flip-flopper because "first he voted for it, then he voted
> against it" with regard to Iraq?

When have you ever heard it from me?

Or is it your goal to be the equivalent of those who do say that?  Which
would make my point that one side isn't any better about this ***than
the other.

Eggman

 
 
 

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Post by Bill Dee » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:58:54

Quote:
>I'm glad you see my point.  So I take it we'll be
>hearing no more nonsense about how Kerry is an indecisive
>flip-flopper because "first he voted for it, then he voted
>against it" with regard to Iraq?

>--Ralph Kennedy    

  Why do you want to take away Dubya's main campaign? Why do you hate America?

  Seriously, why is changing your mind so bad? As time goes by and new
information comes up, why wouldn't anyone sometimes change their mind? Why
doesn't Kerry bring up the changes since the vote for war against Iraq? Why
doesn't he say that with the information available then he voted for it, but
with the screwup that has followed he's now against it?

 
 
 

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Post by Ralph Kenne » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:59:48

Quote:






> >> >> :
> >> >> :
> >> >> :      Quiz:  Which are the only three governments of our
> >> >> :             allies on the record as in favor of Bush
> >> >> :             winning the 2004 election?
> >> >> :
> >> >> :
> >> >> :    Answer:  Poland, Nigeria, and the Philippines.

> >> >> Saudi Arabia?  Oh, you said "allies."

> >> >> Seriously, though, the proper thing for any foreign government
> >> >> to do would be to avoid going on record about our elections.
> >> >> So even if they were to favor Bush, many governments wouldn't
> >> >> say so.  (Or if they favored Kerry, for that matter.)

> >> >      What are you trying to say, Czar?  That I shouldn't
> >> > be employing the Republican methodology of using cheapass
> >> > meaningless facts to manipulate and distort the truth?  :)

> >> I can't speak for the Czar but that is what I am saying.

> >      I'm glad you see my point.  So I take it we'll be
> > hearing no more nonsense about how Kerry is an indecisive
> > flip-flopper because "first he voted for it, then he voted
> > against it" with regard to Iraq?

> When have you ever heard it from me?

     You're thick as thieves, all of you!

Quote:
> Or is it your goal to be the equivalent of those who do say that?  Which
> would make my point that one side isn't any better about this ***than
> the other.

     Uh, no.  The point is that one side *is* "any better
about this crap."  Virtually all of Bush's ads are lies
and/or distortions about Kerry.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice

 
 
 

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Post by Czar Christopher I (R » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 10:17:30

: >I'm glad you see my point.  So I take it we'll be
: >hearing no more nonsense about how Kerry is an indecisive
: >flip-flopper because "first he voted for it, then he voted
: >against it" with regard to Iraq?
: >
: >--Ralph Kennedy    
:
:   Why do you want to take away Dubya's main campaign? Why do you hate America?
:
:   Seriously, why is changing your mind so bad? As time goes by and new
: information comes up, why wouldn't anyone sometimes change their mind? Why
: doesn't Kerry bring up the changes since the vote for war against Iraq?

I know you mean well, and I know you're honest, but this just
drives me batshit crazy.

Kerry didn't vote "for war."  He voted to grant that authority
to the President, who at the time was saying publicly that he
hoped to resolve things peacefully.

IMO, it's a very serious thing to vote to cut the legs out from
under the President in a foreign policy matter.  The threat to
use force is a huge stick to wield, even if it's never used; for
Congress to withhold permission to use that threat seriously
limits what we are able to do through diplomatic channels.

THAT SAID...

Kerry should have known better than to trust this administration
to be honest or competent about Iraq.  This was that rare case
where the correct decision really was to undermine the executive,
because this executive could be counted on to abuse or***up
anyything it laid its hands on.  Without a detailed explanation
from Powell and Rumsfeld:

1. What had to happen for Saddam to avoid war;
2. What troop levels would be needed to execute the war (hey to
   Gen. Shinseki);
3. What the post-regime-change occupation plans were;
4. What we realistically could expect the invasion and occupation
   to cost both in dollars and casualties;

then the only reasonable answer to these people would have been,
"No."

In any case, the notion that Kerry flip-flopped on the war is
based on a view of the vote so simplistic that it borders on
infantile.  You're neither of these things, Bill, but our
fabulous liberal news media are.  Don't listen to their rote
regurgitation of "conventional wisdom."  It's BS.

--
Czar Christopher I                     rec.sport.football.college
   "I'm not aware of anyone in the White House who is aware of
      anyone who's aware that the President ever was aware of
     having made such a comment." --Scott McClellan, 7/21/2004

 
 
 

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Post by Bill Dee » Sun, 26 Sep 2004 10:30:02

Quote:
>In any case, the notion that Kerry flip-flopped on the war is
>based on a view of the vote so simplistic that it borders on
>infantile.  You're neither of these things, Bill, but our
>fabulous liberal news media are.  Don't listen to their rote
>regurgitation of "conventional wisdom."  It's BS.

>--
>Czar Christopher I  

  Still, why don't Kerry and his people attempt to explain this? They seem to
be trying to ignore it and think it hurts them.