Port's next Everest

Port's next Everest

Post by Asgardia » Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:59:04


As Zane noted, Port is yet to beat the Kangaroos in a
proper AFL game.
Why is this so, do the Roos have an invisible force
field which is synchronised to admit all except Power
players?
Does Pagen have a special grudge against Port, trying
significantly harder against them?
Do the Roos have some special ingredient which no
other club in the league has latched onto?

I always used to think that Port was susceptible to a
team with a couple of quality tall forwards, eg Carey
and McKernan (when he played Port)

Watching Port play the Swans today may have given
some more clues, the Power lays off the midfield
opponent when he has possession, preferring to
congest deep into the opponents forward lines, this
allowed the Swan midfield to compose themselves,
and search out short options who could go for goals
from 40 - 45 metres. The Roos don't bother passing
off, they run hard through lines, which is easy if the
Power midfield is laying off them, and go straight at
the goals, eg King, Harvey, Simpson and Stevens,
all good reliable kicks on the run from 50 metres

If Port do the same again next week, the Roos will
be lining up to kick goals, and bury us.

Hopefully the Port brains trust will have seen what
I have, and FIX THE DAMN PROBLEM, because
I am sick and tired of losing to the Roos

Chris Glover

 
 
 

Port's next Everest

Post by Cat » Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:50:40

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I think some teams just match up well. I was REALLY happy that Richo wasn't
playing against us on the weekend. For some reason he always kicks a bag
against us.
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Port's next Everest

Post by David Blak » Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:34:04

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:29:04 +0930, in article

did scribe:

Quote:
>As Zane noted, Port is yet to beat the Kangaroos in a
>proper AFL game.

Thought you were going to say "win a final" ;-)

snips
--
cheers,

Dave

Go Dons!!

I plan on living forever. So far, so good.

 
 
 

Port's next Everest

Post by Asgardia » Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:53:36


Quote:
> On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:29:04 +0930, in article

> did scribe:

> >As Zane noted, Port is yet to beat the Kangaroos in a
> >proper AFL game.

> Thought you were going to say "win a final" ;-)

> Dave

Nice to see you take a little nibble Dave, lol

anyway, I am very confident of rectifying that "finals" issue,
but the original post did refer to Port's "next" Everest, and
with things the way they are, the Roos are that Everest.

Chris Glover

 
 
 

Port's next Everest

Post by David Blak » Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:43:43

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:23:36 +0930, in article

did scribe:

Quote:



>> On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:29:04 +0930, in article

>> did scribe:

>> >As Zane noted, Port is yet to beat the Kangaroos in a
>> >proper AFL game.

>> Thought you were going to say "win a final" ;-)

>> Dave

>Nice to see you take a little nibble Dave, lol

s'alright

Quote:
>anyway, I am very confident of rectifying that "finals" issue,
>but the original post did refer to Port's "next" Everest, and
>with things the way they are, the Roos are that Everest.

fair nuf
--
cheers,

Dave

Go Dons!!

I plan on living forever. So far, so good.

 
 
 

Port's next Everest

Post by Plugge » Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:39:10


Quote:
> As Zane noted, Port is yet to beat the Kangaroos in a
> proper AFL game.
> Why is this so, do the Roos have an invisible force
> field which is synchronised to admit all except Power
> players?
> Does Pagen have a special grudge against Port, trying
> significantly harder against them?
> Do the Roos have some special ingredient which no
> other club in the league has latched onto?

[snip]

I can't quite understand both Williams' and Primus' media comments on this
game. Do they really expect even their own players to believe that they
should go into this game as underdogs? And what is the point in doing so
anyway? Obviously its with the belief that the best way to get them fired up
for the game is to play down their chances. Does this really work?
Personally I think it is coming across as being negative about their
chances. Port are playing the best football of their history and, arguably,
North are at their weakest since Port have been in the AFL. What better time
to be confident of getting over the Kangas? Maybe it's also about not being
arrogant, but I think Port and Williams have done well to date in appearing
confident without being arrogant (mostly). IMO this latest ploy is not in
the best interests of Port's finals chances - they need to be fully
confident and firing going into the finals, as recent history has shown. One
could argue that what's said in the media could be totally different to what
is being said to the players during the week behind closed doors, but if
that's the case, then why bother with the BS to the media? Is it possible
that a small hiccup in Port's progress is being manufactured in order to
fire them up for the coming *** on the finals campaign? If so, its a
dangerous tactic.

Tipping Port, but not confident.

Plugger.

 
 
 

Port's next Everest

Post by André Fürstenrec » Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:37:25

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:39:10 +1000, "Plugger"

Quote:



>> As Zane noted, Port is yet to beat the Kangaroos in a
>> proper AFL game.
>> Why is this so, do the Roos have an invisible force
>> field which is synchronised to admit all except Power
>> players?
>> Does Pagen have a special grudge against Port, trying
>> significantly harder against them?
>> Do the Roos have some special ingredient which no
>> other club in the league has latched onto?

>[snip]

>I can't quite understand both Williams' and Primus' media comments on this
>game. Do they really expect even their own players to believe that they
>should go into this game as underdogs? And what is the point in doing so
>anyway? Obviously its with the belief that the best way to get them fired up
>for the game is to play down their chances. Does this really work?

Well the alternative is going for their ninth win in a row and nothing
to make the match stand out. Personally I think players from any club
shouldn't need a motivational talk before the match about beating
teams, on a losing streak, etc. etc. It's not rocket science - go out
there for 2 hours of game time and bust your gut. Not too much to ask
for young men paid 10 - 20 times what most people their age are.

Quote:
>Personally I think it is coming across as being negative about their
>chances. Port are playing the best football of their history and, arguably,
>North are at their weakest since Port have been in the AFL. What better time
>to be confident of getting over the Kangas? Maybe it's also about not being
>arrogant, but I think Port and Williams have done well to date in appearing
>confident without being arrogant (mostly). IMO this latest ploy is not in
>the best interests of Port's finals chances - they need to be fully
>confident and firing going into the finals, as recent history has shown. One
>could argue that what's said in the media could be totally different to what
>is being said to the players during the week behind closed doors, but if
>that's the case, then why bother with the BS to the media? Is it possible
>that a small hiccup in Port's progress is being manufactured in order to
>fire them up for the coming *** on the finals campaign? If so, its a
>dangerous tactic.

I have to agree somewhat. I get tired of all coaches (not just
Williams) saying we respect the opposition, expect a tough game, etc.
etc. Take last weeks Crows v. Saints game. Nothing would have made me
increase my opinion of Ayres more then saying before the match 'We've
lost a few, but are playing at home against a hopeless side. If we
don't win easily something is wrong'. Ditto Mark Williams should be
willing to say Port should flog the saints when we play them at footy
park. If it takes a comment like this to fire up the opposition, then
the opposition coach should be having his players heads read for why
they need such a spark and can't play well without it.

Andr

 
 
 

Port's next Everest

Post by Plugge » Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:20:58


Quote:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:39:10 +1000, "Plugger"

> >Personally I think it is coming across as being negative about their
> >chances. Port are playing the best football of their history and,
arguably,
> >North are at their weakest since Port have been in the AFL. What better
time
> >to be confident of getting over the Kangas? Maybe it's also about not
being
> >arrogant, but I think Port and Williams have done well to date in
appearing
> >confident without being arrogant (mostly). IMO this latest ploy is not in
> >the best interests of Port's finals chances - they need to be fully
> >confident and firing going into the finals, as recent history has shown.
One
> >could argue that what's said in the media could be totally different to
what
> >is being said to the players during the week behind closed doors, but if
> >that's the case, then why bother with the BS to the media? Is it possible
> >that a small hiccup in Port's progress is being manufactured in order to
> >fire them up for the coming *** on the finals campaign? If so, its a
> >dangerous tactic.

> I have to agree somewhat. I get tired of all coaches (not just
> Williams) saying we respect the opposition, expect a tough game, etc.
> etc. Take last weeks Crows v. Saints game. Nothing would have made me
> increase my opinion of Ayres more then saying before the match 'We've
> lost a few, but are playing at home against a hopeless side. If we
> don't win easily something is wrong'. Ditto Mark Williams should be
> willing to say Port should flog the saints when we play them at footy
> park. If it takes a comment like this to fire up the opposition, then
> the opposition coach should be having his players heads read for why
> they need such a spark and can't play well without it.

Agree, although giving the opposition ammunition for motivation has proven
to be something to be avoided. It would be foolhardy to show disrespect to
any AFL opposition. All I'm saying is that I can't see the need for Williams
and co to be talking down their chances and mentioning the Kanga's record
and the fact that Port have been on the road the past few weeks - it smacks
of negativity - and Port have no need or justification for it.

Plugger.

 
 
 

Port's next Everest

Post by Julia » Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:52:50

Quote:
> I have to agree somewhat. I get tired of all coaches (not just
> Williams) saying we respect the opposition, expect a tough game, etc.
> etc. Take last weeks Crows v. Saints game. Nothing would have made me
> increase my opinion of Ayres more then saying before the match 'We've
> lost a few, but are playing at home against a hopeless side. If we
> don't win easily something is wrong'. Ditto Mark Williams should be
> willing to say Port should flog the saints when we play them at footy
> park. If it takes a comment like this to fire up the opposition, then
> the opposition coach should be having his players heads read for why
> they need such a spark and can't play well without it.

> Andr

At last. Exactly, but beware, if you win 21 out of 22 h&a games & say "we
should be able to win the premiership", you get called arrogant!

Julian

 
 
 

Port's next Everest

Post by André Fürstenrec » Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:58:16

<snip>

Quote:
>> I have to agree somewhat. I get tired of all coaches (not just
>> Williams) saying we respect the opposition, expect a tough game, etc.
>> etc. Take last weeks Crows v. Saints game. Nothing would have made me
>> increase my opinion of Ayres more then saying before the match 'We've
>> lost a few, but are playing at home against a hopeless side. If we
>> don't win easily something is wrong'. Ditto Mark Williams should be
>> willing to say Port should flog the saints when we play them at footy
>> park. If it takes a comment like this to fire up the opposition, then
>> the opposition coach should be having his players heads read for why
>> they need such a spark and can't play well without it.

>Agree, although giving the opposition ammunition for motivation has proven
>to be something to be avoided. It would be foolhardy to show disrespect to
>any AFL opposition. All I'm saying is that I can't see the need for Williams
>and co to be talking down their chances and mentioning the Kanga's record
>and the fact that Port have been on the road the past few weeks - it smacks
>of negativity - and Port have no need or justification for it.

I think it's also part of the Australian sporting make up in general -
not just Aussie rules. Australian sides go out of their way to be the
underdog in every match. You don't want to appear overly arrogant, but
the bending over backwards not to give an 'ammunition' to the
opposition team is a pain to watch at times. And it is yet another
example of over-santising the game for no gain.

Andr