>>Some poeple argueing about the potential drug abuse of the chinese women
>>swimmers by asking the question why the chinese male swimmers are less
>>stronger. Actually, this is a fact not only in the swimming event. Just
>>look at the other events: current world chess women champion, volleyball
>>(former champion team), bascketball (vice world champion), table tennis,
>>soccer, hockey... In the most of the sport events, chinese women are much
>>*** than chinese men. I think there're three major reasons attibuted
>>to this phenomenon: 1) chinese women generally working harder than
>>chinese men 2) chinese women enjoy in many cases a RELATIVELY better
>>social status in comparison to their counterparts in other countries.
>>At least as far as sport is concerning, the goverment takes the women
>>disciplines as same seriously as the men. 3) racial physical differences
>>are bigger in men than in women.
> That would be fine, in and of itself. But why haven't the men made
>the sudden, incredible *improvement* that the women have? Does anyone have
>old and new times to compare (a complete listing from some particular world-
>class competition from a few years ago and recently) for the men? If it's
>training and hard work then they should have made the same kind of gains.
>There will be some improvement every year anyway, but it would be obvious.
>I'd really like someone to post such results if they happen to know that the
>men have come a long way (and maybe just have still farther to go). That
>would put my mind at ease once and for all.
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WC performance. The two sides can't get answers to one question, here I would
like to offer some information, may be helpful for your argument, whichever
side you are.
I am an age-group swimming coach for years. I think we should wait to
see about this drug enhancing issue for a few years.
Many of us wonder why Chinese women are more *** in the pools so
as to on the tracks, than their men. After I read some back issues of Asian
sports magazines, I think I found the answer.
The last ten years, China has become the No.1 sports super power in
Asia, surpass Japan. China is really booming in a wide range of sports events
and catching up at an amazing speed. But almost all the events, women seem do
much better than their male counterpart. Among them, volley-ball, basketball,
soccer, track and field, swimming, fencing, etc. This also happen in their
traditional events like table tennis and badminton.
I don't know much about anything except swimming. I found there is a
reason for their women do better. If you look at competition in Asia, both of
teams, men and women, are front runners. On men side, they have 9 Asian records
and more than a dozen Asian champions. But their times are just not good enough
for a medal in the world. I also looked at some of their swimmers' personal
data which told the story: their male swimmers are too short!! Their Asian
champions are average about 1.80m(5'11") tall, much shorter than the world top
male swimmers who average about 6'5" to 6'7". But their top female swimmers are
average at 1.73m(5'7" 1/2), some 1.77m which is almost as tall as the our female
swimmers. This make a bigger difference in swimming. Say Chinese man, they have
a 6-8" disadvantage, plus the arm length they are almost competing at about 1
foot disadvatage at the world level. Since swimming races have turns in the
pool, each turn the 1-foot shorter swimmer has to move 2 feet more through the
water, even 50m race, which swimmer doesn't turn in the pool, the 1-foot taller
swimmer still has a 0.33 second advantage at the beginning of the race because
of his longer body. Plus taller swimmers will have bigger palms and longer arms
which make their strokes much more powerful than the shorter competitors. The
same thing holds true in track and field, of which longer legs and arms are
always at a great advantage. Even so, The Chinese have ***-age male swimmers
now who are much taller, and catching up the world. So watch out. They are just
not mature enough to compete at the world level yet, like their women
teammates, who reach their peaks at an early age of 16-18 years old. But they
are certainly talented, and scary.
I don't know whether their women are using *** or not. But until you
see the Asian males are as tall as the westners, you can never accuse their drug
hencing just by the better female performance.
No flame please. Maybe they are using ***, maybe not, but men and
women whould be in the same program, don't you think?
Things will become real suspicious when a Chinese 1-foot shorter male
swimmer is beating the westers, and set the world record. :-)