newbie flip turn help

newbie flip turn help

Post by Vincent Gog » Wed, 29 Nov 1995 04:00:00



Quote:

>I've just started in the pool and would like to improve my 1500 time.  I
>figured I'd try to incorporate the flip turn after watching people who
>actually know what they're doing make it look easy.  A friend showed me
>the basics and I've found two major barriers.  The first one is that half
>of the pool is ending up in my nose.  Someone told me to hum as I make
>the turn.  Tried it.  Didn't work.  The second problem is that when I
>flip, I go onto my back but seem to be very deep.  Any tips would save me
>a lot of grief and keep the water level up as well!

I'm sure there are as many types of flip-turns as there are swimmer...
this is how I describe mine.

Rather than telling people to flip onto their back, I've always
compared a flip turn to a shoulder-roll on land. Thinking this way will
help you twist as you go through the turn instead of trying to fix
things up once you're upside down.

Let's say you come into the wall just as your right arm is about to
enter the water. Plunge your right arm down and to the left and
backwards quite like the way you would in a shoulder roll. Keep extending
your right arm towards the other end of the pool and the rest of your
body should follow as you kick off the wall. You should end up rotating
around your left shoulder.

As for the water up your nose, breathe out slowly through your nose as
you turn. Some people exhale too quickly, run out of air and probably
suck some water in as they gasp. The humming hint was probably a trick
to regulate how quickly you breathed out.

Vincent Gogan
University of Toronto

 
 
 

newbie flip turn help

Post by Don Ha » Wed, 29 Nov 1995 04:00:00

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Quote:

> I've just started in the pool and would like to improve my 1500 time.  I
> figured I'd try .... snip!..... keep the water level up as well!

> Thanks

> Pat

First, try exhaling HARD out of your nose at each turn.  If air is coming
out, water can not get in.  About the "deep" thing, you are probably
pushing off the wall too high, meaning your feet are hitting the wall and
pushing off closer to the water line than the bottom.  My advice is to
SLOW DOWN.  go through the turn slowly, make certain that your head and
feet are at roughly the same plane when you push off the wall.  None of
this will come real easily but it will come.  Matt Biondi makes flip turns
look easy but he has probably done several houndred thousand in the past
decade.  Take the turns slowly at first getting used to the motions then
increase the pace.  Remember, you will never be able to swim fast untill
you can swim slowly.  Good luck and keep working.

Don

Don Haut
Molecular Microbiology and Immunology
University of Missouri-Columbia

314-882-3171

 
 
 

newbie flip turn help

Post by Pat Allend » Fri, 01 Dec 1995 04:00:00



Quote:

>I've just started in the pool and would like to improve my 1500 time.  I
>figured I'd try to incorporate the flip turn after watching people who
>actually know what they're doing make it look easy.  A friend showed me
>the basics and I've found two major barriers.  The first one is that half
>of the pool is ending up in my nose.  Someone told me to hum as I make
>the turn.  Tried it.  Didn't work.  The second problem is that when I
>flip, I go onto my back but seem to be very deep.  Any tips would save me
>a lot of grief and keep the water level up as well!

>Thanks

>Pat

Pat,
        The answer to the first problem is easy, just blow a little air out
of your nose while you are upside down. A small steady stream of air will
prevent water from getting in. If you have trouble doing that, you could
also try an inexpensive nose clip.
        The second problem is more difficult, and also very common. You
should start your flip with both hands at your side. Push down on the water
with your hands, sculling slightly so your hands don't go to deep. If you do
this correctly, your hands will be extended back towards the other end of
the pool when you finish flipping, and you will be close to the surface.
Lots of people learning the flip turn bring their hands in to close to their
torso at the end of the flip, and then have to pause for a relatively long
time while they extend their arms out again. The whole time you are paused,
you will be sinking. Your best bet on learning this is to ask one of those
people you see doing fast turns for some help. Better yet, ask somebody with
coaching experience. And keep trying, it definitely gets easier as you do
more and more turns.
Pat

 
 
 

newbie flip turn help

Post by Jill Spetoske » Sat, 02 Dec 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

>    The second problem is more difficult, and also very common. You
>should start your flip with both hands at your side. Push down on the water
>with your hands, sculling slightly so your hands don't go to deep. If you do
>this correctly, your hands will be extended back towards the other end of
>the pool when you finish flipping, and you will be close to the surface.
>Lots of people learning the flip turn bring their hands in to close to their
>torso at the end of the flip, and then have to pause for a relatively long
>time while they extend their arms out again.

Something that I've found really helpful in teaching people to keep their hands up on a turn is an about eigh*** inch medium thickn=
ess wooden dowel.  The idea is that you swim into the wall holding it have to keep a hold of it with both hands as you turn, forcing=
 you to keep your hands in a correct position.

Jill Marie

http://SportToday.org/~jilkey/
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