NEW WR--Misty Hyman is ON FIRE!!

NEW WR--Misty Hyman is ON FIRE!!

Post by Josh Jeffre » Wed, 04 Dec 1996 04:00:00


At the Canadian Open Swimming Championships in Quebec City, Quebec
yesterday, Misty Hyman obliterated the short-course world record in the
100 fly with her 58.29. The previous world record was Liu Limin's
58.68, set on Dec 2 of last year. In that same race, Hyman swam a 59.71
to finish fifth. I can't wait to see her swims at the US Open. If this
is a preview of what's to come, I see her breaking the record again at
the US Open, taking the 200 fly record either at the US Open or Short
Course Worlds, and breaking the 100 fly long course record at Spring
Nationals. Don't forget folks, she also has the national 100 yd. back
high school record! Wow! Misty Hyman is on fire!!!!!

----Josh----

 
 
 

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Post by Edward M. Powe » Wed, 04 Dec 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
Jeffrey ) writes:

>At the Canadian Open Swimming Championships in Quebec City, Quebec
>yesterday, Misty Hyman obliterated the short-course world record in
the
>100 fly with her 58.29. The previous world record was Liu Limin's
>58.68, set on Dec 2 of last year. In that same race, Hyman swam a
59.71
>to finish fifth. I can't wait to see her swims at the US Open. If this
>is a preview of what's to come, I see her breaking the record again at
>the US Open, taking the 200 fly record either at the US Open or Short
>Course Worlds, and breaking the 100 fly long course record at Spring
>Nationals. Don't forget folks, she also has the national 100 yd. back
>high school record! Wow! Misty Hyman is on fire!!!!!

>----Josh----

Of course, the interesting thing about the new record is that she swam
the entire race in 16 strokes, one on her first length and five on each
subsequent length.

Ed

 
 
 

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Post by Mike Buckl » Wed, 04 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>>high school record! Wow! Misty Hyman is on fire!!!!!

>Of course, the interesting thing about the new record is that she swam
>the entire race in 16 strokes, one on her first length and five on each
>subsequent length.

>Ed

I think she would already have the 200 record if didnt go underwater so
long.  

mike
trinity aquatic team

 
 
 

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Post by Brian D. Hindso » Wed, 04 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> >>high school record! Wow! Misty Hyman is on fire!!!!!

> >Of course, the interesting thing about the new record is that she swam
> >the entire race in 16 strokes, one on her first length and five on each
> >subsequent length.

> >Ed

> I think she would already have the 200 record if didnt go underwater so
> long.

> mike
> trinity aquatic team

yes, but what about FINA changing the rules.  will she still go fast????
 
 
 

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Post by Josh Jeffre » Thu, 05 Dec 1996 04:00:00


Quote:


>> >>high school record! Wow! Misty Hyman is on fire!!!!!

>> >Of course, the interesting thing about the new record is that she
swam
>> >the entire race in 16 strokes, one on her first length and five on
each
>> >subsequent length.

>> >Ed

>> I think she would already have the 200 record if didnt go underwater
so
>> long.

>> mike
>> trinity aquatic team
>yes, but what about FINA changing the rules.  will she still go

fast????

Why would FINA change the rules? The dolphin kick is the kick used in
butterfly. It's just an innovation what Misty is doing. You can't
outlaw innovations or you set limits on how fast swimmers will be able
to get. This is the development of the stroke, just as people breathe
to the side in fly, or how the fly kick went from the frog kick to the
dolphin kick. As for will she be fast still....she had the fastest
second 50 of the field at the Olympic Trials in the 100 fly, and she
doesn't dolphin as much in the back half...I think she will be fast.
And she's fast in backstroke, where you are only allowed to go 15
meters. She's just plain talented. You've got to hand it to her coach
for this fish kick of hers. She's got the stroke to break Mary's record
in the 100 fly as far as I am concerned, and the only people I have
seen that could even have a shot at it besides Misty were Crissy
Ahmann-Leighton, <is she still swimming?>, and Ayari Aoyama. I think
come Spring Nationals, she's gonna do it.

----Josh----

 
 
 

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Post by jp.. » Thu, 05 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Maybe she won't be able to break the long course record without those
extra walls to dolphin off of.

 
 
 

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Post by I.. » Thu, 05 Dec 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

> Maybe she won't be able to break the long course record without those
> extra walls to dolphin off of.

I absolutely agree with this.
I also very much doubt it if she can break the 200 SC (Her time of 2:10+
is still more than 4 seconds slower than O'Neill's 2:06, and even almost
5 seconds slower than Mary T's 2:05+).

Misty's is a very good swimmer 'tho, yet she has to perfect her dolphin
kick technique to the level of Pankratov's before she has any chance to
break 100-200 LC and 200 SC.

As for 200 LC, I don't think it will be broken before 1998 Perth World
Championships, since the field is now not competitive enough (O'Neill is
2 seconds in front the field). It's a shame that Liu Limin is in decline
and couldnt provide competition for O'Neill to break the 200 in the
Olympics (Unlike in Rio, where both posted magnificent times).

As for 100 LC, i agree that Misty could provide good competition for
Ayari to break the record, which could be broken before Perth, provided
Misty perfecting her dolphin kick.

Ian.
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Post by Dave Baile » Thu, 05 Dec 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
> Maybe she won't be able to break the long course record without those
> extra walls to dolphin off of.

I have seen several postings on Ms. Hyman, and am quite confused.  I am
new to the competitive swimming scene, and I don't know what is so special
about her fly.  Can anyone help me out?  Thanks

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Post by Edward M. Powe » Fri, 06 Dec 1996 04:00:00


Quote:


>> Maybe she won't be able to break the long course record without
those
>> extra walls to dolphin off of.

>I have seen several postings on Ms. Hyman, and am quite confused.  I
am
>new to the competitive swimming scene, and I don't know what is so
special
>about her fly.  Can anyone help me out?  Thanks

>----------------------------------------------------------------------

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She's one of the new "underwater flyers" who spends an amazing portion
of the race submerged, dolphin kicking.  Pankratov does this too, but
what Hyman's doing that's unique is she does it on her side, supposedly
faster and less turbulent from dye-in-the-water studies done by her
coach.  
As I mentioned before, her new SCM record took her only *16 strokes*,
one on the 1st length, five on each of the last three!
 
 
 

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Post by Brian D. Hindso » Sat, 07 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Lea Oberstar beat Misty in the 200 bk at the US Open.  Watching the
race.  You could see Misty die at the end.  That's where Lea beat her.
Literally the last 10 meters in American Open record too.

 
 
 

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Post by Bennett » Sun, 08 Dec 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

>Why would FINA change the rules? The dolphin kick is the kick used in
>butterfly. It's just an innovation what Misty is doing. You can't
>outlaw innovations or you set limits on how fast swimmers will be able
>to get. This is the development of the stroke, just as people breathe
>to the side in fly, or how the fly kick went from the frog kick to the
>dolphin kick. As for will she be fast still....she had the fastest
>second 50 of the field at the Olympic Trials in the 100 fly, and she
>doesn't dolphin as much in the back half...I think she will be fast.
>And she's fast in backstroke, where you are only allowed to go 15
>meters. She's just plain talented. You've got to hand it to her coach
>for this fish kick of hers. She's got the stroke to break Mary's record
>in the 100 fly as far as I am concerned, and the only people I have
>seen that could even have a shot at it besides Misty were Crissy
>Ahmann-Leighton, <is she still swimming?>, and Ayari Aoyama. I think
>come Spring Nationals, she's gonna do it.

>----Josh----

In this months copy of the Swimming Times (UK swim mag. December '96) it
says that following the Olympic Games (where in particular the young
Japanese fly swimmer was using the same technique of dolphin kick
underwater on the side) FINA had reviewed the situation and declared it
OK. So maybe Mary T's amazing records will eventually be allowed to be
broken!

Who by the way was first with the technique - the Japanese or Misty? Of
course I didn't see Hyman at the Olympics cos she didn't make the USA
team.

Cheers  
Roger Bennett

 
 
 

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Post by Brian D. Hindso » Mon, 09 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


> > Maybe she won't be able to break the long course record without those
> > extra walls to dolphin off of.

> I have seen several postings on Ms. Hyman, and am quite confused.  I am
> new to the competitive swimming scene, and I don't know what is so special
> about her fly.  Can anyone help me out?  Thanks

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she kicks most of it virtually on her side...which is very effective in
short course with a lot of wall turns, but not so good in long course..
 
 
 

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Post by i.. » Tue, 10 Dec 1996 04:00:00



<snipped>

Quote:
> Who by the way was first with the technique - the Japanese or Misty? Of
> course I didn't see Hyman at the Olympics cos she didn't make the USA
> team.

> Cheers  
> Roger Bennett

AFAIK, it wasn't either Misty or Japanese Flyers who used prolonged
underwater swim. I don't who did it first in butterfly, but surely Angela
Kennedy (who broke her legs during olympics, and hence couldn't perform up to
her standard) used it to break Mary T.'s 50 and 100 SC records during 1995 World
Cups, and Pankratov also used the technique before Misty afaik.

The problem with Misty and Japanese flyers now is that they just seem to die in
the second 50 m in 100 LC, and hence I also don't think they could use the
technique for maximum advantage on 200 LC.

My .02 worth,

Ian
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Post by Josh Jeffre » Wed, 11 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Quote:



><snipped>
>> Who by the way was first with the technique - the Japanese or Misty?
Of
>> course I didn't see Hyman at the Olympics cos she didn't make the
USA
>> team.

>> Cheers  
>> Roger Bennett

>AFAIK, it wasn't either Misty or Japanese Flyers who used prolonged
>underwater swim. I don't who did it first in butterfly, but surely
Angela
>Kennedy (who broke her legs during olympics, and hence couldn't
perform up to
>her standard) used it to break Mary T.'s 50 and 100 SC records during
1995 World
>Cups, and Pankratov also used the technique before Misty afaik.

>The problem with Misty and Japanese flyers now is that they just seem
to die in
>the second 50 m in 100 LC, and hence I also don't think they could use
the
>technique for maximum advantage on 200 LC.

Dying?!?!?! I don't think so!! How many times must I reiterate the fact
that Misty had the fastest second 50 of the entire field in the 100m
fly at the Olympic Trials? I wouldn't exactly call that dying!!

----Josh----