problems with Arctic Cat Kitty Cat

problems with Arctic Cat Kitty Cat

Post by Rick Wage » Fri, 19 Jan 2001 04:44:40


I recently purchased a used ( 1994 ) Arctic Cat Kitty Cat for my kids (
5 and 7 years old.)  I'm having problems with it and hope someone on
this newsgroup can lead me in the right direction.

Basically, it seems to run fine for the first 15 or 20 minutes of use,
the colder the better. Then, it begins to run worse and worse as it gets
warmer. It will start and idle as it gets warmer, but it stalls whenever
the thottle is squeezed. If I'm very careful with the throttle, I can
get it revved up but otherwise it quits. It'll even stall if I've lifted
the back end off the snow! If I do get it moving by pushing it while
being very careful with the throttle, the top end and power is noticably
decreased. One other bit of info, it just barely needs to be choked to
start, even if the temperature is around 0 degrees Fahrenheit.

I've replaced the plug, and tried adjusting what I believe is the
air/fuel mixture***of the carb, but I haven't improved anything.

The local Arctic Cat shop wasn't very interested in working on it,
saying "that's normal for Kitty Cats" when I described what was
happening.  I find this really hard to believe!

So, I'm looking for advice. Is it really normal for Kitty Cats to act
this way? If not, any advice on what might be wrong? Carburetor
problems? Something more serious? I'll rebuild or replace the carb. if
that'll solve the problems.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,
Rick

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problems with Arctic Cat Kitty Cat

Post by LBZ35 » Fri, 19 Jan 2001 04:48:08

Find a shop that is interested in your business...  tell you friends not to
go to the one that only caters to customers who spend over 5000.00 there!

--
Jere
2001 KX250      2000 ZR600
1994 KX250      1999 ZL600


Quote:

> I recently purchased a used ( 1994 ) Arctic Cat Kitty Cat for my kids (
> 5 and 7 years old.)  I'm having problems with it and hope someone on
> this newsgroup can lead me in the right direction.

> Basically, it seems to run fine for the first 15 or 20 minutes of use,
> the colder the better. Then, it begins to run worse and worse as it gets
> warmer. It will start and idle as it gets warmer, but it stalls whenever
> the thottle is squeezed. If I'm very careful with the throttle, I can
> get it revved up but otherwise it quits. It'll even stall if I've lifted
> the back end off the snow! If I do get it moving by pushing it while
> being very careful with the throttle, the top end and power is noticably
> decreased. One other bit of info, it just barely needs to be choked to
> start, even if the temperature is around 0 degrees Fahrenheit.

> I've replaced the plug, and tried adjusting what I believe is the
> air/fuel mixture***of the carb, but I haven't improved anything.

> The local Arctic Cat shop wasn't very interested in working on it,
> saying "that's normal for Kitty Cats" when I described what was
> happening.  I find this really hard to believe!

> So, I'm looking for advice. Is it really normal for Kitty Cats to act
> this way? If not, any advice on what might be wrong? Carburetor
> problems? Something more serious? I'll rebuild or replace the carb. if
> that'll solve the problems.

> Any help appreciated.

> Thanks,
> Rick

> --
>    Rick  Wager  (303) 381-3013                Senior Software Engineer

>    http://SportToday.org/


 
 
 

problems with Arctic Cat Kitty Cat

Post by High Flye » Fri, 19 Jan 2001 04:56:59

Rick,

From my knowledge of two stroke engines, sounds like you have a piston or
cylinder that is damaged or out of round. If it were the carb it would run
bad all the time. Because it only runs bad when it gets heated up that leads
me to believe that when the metal expands something is happening. Take the
head off and look things over. The other thing kitty cats are famous for is
a clogged screen in the tank. I would take a needle nose pliers and rip the
screen off and just put a small clear inline filter on the line leading to
the carb. Try the filter first that may solve the problem.


Quote:

> I recently purchased a used ( 1994 ) Arctic Cat Kitty Cat for my kids (
> 5 and 7 years old.)  I'm having problems with it and hope someone on
> this newsgroup can lead me in the right direction.

> Basically, it seems to run fine for the first 15 or 20 minutes of use,
> the colder the better. Then, it begins to run worse and worse as it gets
> warmer. It will start and idle as it gets warmer, but it stalls whenever
> the thottle is squeezed. If I'm very careful with the throttle, I can
> get it revved up but otherwise it quits. It'll even stall if I've lifted
> the back end off the snow! If I do get it moving by pushing it while
> being very careful with the throttle, the top end and power is noticably
> decreased. One other bit of info, it just barely needs to be choked to
> start, even if the temperature is around 0 degrees Fahrenheit.

> I've replaced the plug, and tried adjusting what I believe is the
> air/fuel mixture***of the carb, but I haven't improved anything.

> The local Arctic Cat shop wasn't very interested in working on it,
> saying "that's normal for Kitty Cats" when I described what was
> happening.  I find this really hard to believe!

> So, I'm looking for advice. Is it really normal for Kitty Cats to act
> this way? If not, any advice on what might be wrong? Carburetor
> problems? Something more serious? I'll rebuild or replace the carb. if
> that'll solve the problems.

> Any help appreciated.

> Thanks,
> Rick

> --
>    Rick  Wager  (303) 381-3013                Senior Software Engineer

>    http://SportToday.org/


 
 
 

problems with Arctic Cat Kitty Cat

Post by allan glubi » Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:02:14

runs good when cold, need little ***to start, sounds to me like the ckoke
plunger is stuck open in the carb. pull the brass fitting out and you find out
right away if you can't pull it out of the chamber
Quote:

> Rick,

> From my knowledge of two stroke engines, sounds like you have a piston or
> cylinder that is damaged or out of round. If it were the carb it would run
> bad all the time. Because it only runs bad when it gets heated up that leads
> me to believe that when the metal expands something is happening. Take the
> head off and look things over. The other thing kitty cats are famous for is
> a clogged screen in the tank. I would take a needle nose pliers and rip the
> screen off and just put a small clear inline filter on the line leading to
> the carb. Try the filter first that may solve the problem.



> > I recently purchased a used ( 1994 ) Arctic Cat Kitty Cat for my kids (
> > 5 and 7 years old.)  I'm having problems with it and hope someone on
> > this newsgroup can lead me in the right direction.

> > Basically, it seems to run fine for the first 15 or 20 minutes of use,
> > the colder the better. Then, it begins to run worse and worse as it gets
> > warmer. It will start and idle as it gets warmer, but it stalls whenever
> > the thottle is squeezed. If I'm very careful with the throttle, I can
> > get it revved up but otherwise it quits. It'll even stall if I've lifted
> > the back end off the snow! If I do get it moving by pushing it while
> > being very careful with the throttle, the top end and power is noticably
> > decreased. One other bit of info, it just barely needs to be choked to
> > start, even if the temperature is around 0 degrees Fahrenheit.

> > I've replaced the plug, and tried adjusting what I believe is the
> > air/fuel mixture***of the carb, but I haven't improved anything.

> > The local Arctic Cat shop wasn't very interested in working on it,
> > saying "that's normal for Kitty Cats" when I described what was
> > happening.  I find this really hard to believe!

> > So, I'm looking for advice. Is it really normal for Kitty Cats to act
> > this way? If not, any advice on what might be wrong? Carburetor
> > problems? Something more serious? I'll rebuild or replace the carb. if
> > that'll solve the problems.

> > Any help appreciated.

> > Thanks,
> > Rick

> > --
> >    Rick  Wager  (303) 381-3013                Senior Software Engineer

> >    http://SportToday.org/

 
 
 

problems with Arctic Cat Kitty Cat

Post by nosp » Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:03:26

Snip....

Quote:
>From my knowledge of two stroke engines, sounds like you have a piston or
>cylinder that is damaged or out of round.

I thought they were 4 strokes on the kitty cats...
 
 
 

problems with Arctic Cat Kitty Cat

Post by Bria » Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:43:13

Yep the are 4-cycles good catch on that one but still sound slike the ***
sticking Good Luck and let the kids haev fun c-yaaa
Quote:

> Snip....

> >From my knowledge of two stroke engines, sounds like you have a piston or
> >cylinder that is damaged or out of round.

> I thought they were 4 strokes on the kitty cats...

 
 
 

problems with Arctic Cat Kitty Cat

Post by Rick Wage » Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:19:51

Well, I like the ***plunger answer better than the damaged piston or cylinder!
:-)

I know just enough about carbs to be dangerous (especially on snowmobiles), but
I'll give it a go myself before giving in and taking it to a (different) shop.

Thanks to everyone for the responses.

Rick

Quote:

> runs good when cold, need little ***to start, sounds to me like the ckoke
> plunger is stuck open in the carb. pull the brass fitting out and you find out
> right away if you can't pull it out of the chamber


> > Rick,

> > From my knowledge of two stroke engines, sounds like you have a piston or
> > cylinder that is damaged or out of round. If it were the carb it would run
> > bad all the time. Because it only runs bad when it gets heated up that leads
> > me to believe that when the metal expands something is happening. Take the
> > head off and look things over. The other thing kitty cats are famous for is
> > a clogged screen in the tank. I would take a needle nose pliers and rip the
> > screen off and just put a small clear inline filter on the line leading to
> > the carb. Try the filter first that may solve the problem.

--
   Rick  Wager  (303) 381-3013                Senior Software Engineer

 
 
 

problems with Arctic Cat Kitty Cat

Post by Kcmeye » Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:05:13

Kitty kats are two-cycles, the z-120's are four strokes. Kevin
 
 
 

problems with Arctic Cat Kitty Cat

Post by jake » Sun, 21 Jan 2001 08:26:21

my neibor has a kitty cat, im almost positiuve that its a 4 stoke

Quote:
> Kitty kats are two-cycles, the z-120's are four strokes. Kevin

 
 
 

problems with Arctic Cat Kitty Cat

Post by David Courtne » Sun, 21 Jan 2001 07:33:00

    Nope... Kawasaki 2-strokes in the old ones, Suzuki 2-strokes in the
later ones.  Every one I've seen had butterfly carbs... no ***plunger.
    Ours had a "splat" of solder sliding around in the fuel tank for years
when I was a kid.  Finally, one day when I was home from college I got it
out for some neighbor kids to ride... it would run for a few minute then
quit, or barely run.
    I was fed up so I pulled the tank and dumped it out... then I heard
something "clink" inside.  It was a flat "splat" of solder about the size of
a dime that would slide over the fuel outlet and starve the motor.  Probably
was stuck to the bottom of the tank when they soldered the neck on or
something; and broke loose years later.
    After that it ran like a top... my cousins kids still ride it (we got it
new in '72).
        David


Quote:
> my neibor has a kitty cat, im almost positiuve that its a 4 stoke


> > Kitty kats are two-cycles, the z-120's are four strokes. Kevin