Redline Snowmobiles....some thought's on their design

Redline Snowmobiles....some thought's on their design

Post by Tom Street » Wed, 26 May 1999 04:00:00


Hello Everyone.

I was just wondering on what everyone thinks of redline snowmobiles.

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Here are a couple of things that came to mind as I was looking at the
sled.

1. Snowflap - Considering the rear exit of the track and seat design .
The mounting of a snow flap on this model would be challenging to say
the least. I would not want to be the poor bastard riding behid this
sucker. Although it would look cool with a 50 foot rooster tail coming
from it in the mountains

2. Storage - With the seat design in current form, it allows no room
for storage of the smallest items. Mounting a set of saddle bags would
be scary as well considering the location of the dual exhaust under
the seat and the lack of full running boards for a second mount point.

3. No Rear Bumper - The idea of wrapping your hands around the exhaust
to manhandle the sled when stuck is not too appealing.

4. No Front Bumper - I would hate to ruin the beautiful bodywork on
this baby trying to turn it around if you were unfortunate and had no
reverse.

5. The Seat - Seat looks like it doesn't have enough stuffing to pad
your ***for a long day of trail riding.

Other than that, I think the sled is a huge leap foward and a serious
motivator for the rest of the manufacturer's.  The design is beautiful
and flows very well. The four stroke concept is exciting.....look how
far the motorcycle industry has brought their powerplants in a short
amount of time.

Not too long ago Fast Industries developed a long travel and
revolutionized the rest of the market. Ad Boivin developed a single
swingarm and SKI-DOO liked it so much they bought the technology.

 Could Redline Snowmobiles do this again? Who knows, but change for
the most part is a good thing.

Let me know what you think....I know this is the first sled I've been
truly e***d about in a long time. I've owned Yamaha's, Cat, SKI-DOO
and Polaris sleds and after a while their all the same.

It's time for some revolution and evolution.

Later

Tom Streeter
1999 XC600


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Redline Snowmobiles....some thought's on their design

Post by ctrl » Wed, 26 May 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Hello Everyone.

<snip>
I don't think these are touring sleds are they ??

Quote:

> Not too long ago Fast Industries developed a long travel and
> revolutionized the rest of the market. Ad Boivin developed a single
> swingarm and SKI-DOO liked it so much they bought the technology.

And ski doo managed to mess that up just ask Ray Pezzi :)
Rod M
Quote:
>  Could Redline Snowmobiles do this again? Who knows, but change for
> the most part is a good thing.

> Let me know what you think....I know this is the first sled I've been
> truly e***d about in a long time. I've owned Yamaha's, Cat, SKI-DOO
> and Polaris sleds and after a while their all the same.

> It's time for some revolution and evolution.

> Later

> Tom Streeter
> 1999 XC600


 
 
 

Redline Snowmobiles....some thought's on their design

Post by catzrt.. » Wed, 26 May 1999 04:00:00

Tom you are right on track with this new sled.
The five points we`re well noted.

*The guages seem to be a bit on the small and awkward side.
* The foot holds look to be a bit strange.
*Headlight? What headlight?
But I`d say I`m just being real picky.

I feel this is a huge leap ahead in technology, I`m anxious to see and
hear one out on the trails. (I`d LOVE to test it out at a dream demo.)
Hint Hint!!!

  I`m a bit skeptical as to how that 4 stroke will start on a -20 to
-30 below morning. (Thats if the rider decides to even go out in that
type of weather.)

Other than these small and picky things I`m sure it will be quite a nice
sled.
The real question is... Is it really worth $12500.?
Only time will tell.

Jeff B      Up in Maine

 
 
 

Redline Snowmobiles....some thought's on their design

Post by CNikkar » Thu, 27 May 1999 04:00:00

One Problem I have with it is how are they going to create and control
weight transfer on acceleration.Also why mount a single shock under the hood
where it can get hot when you can mount a Boiven suspension and have the
shocks in the snow being cooled ? But it is fascinating and for our sport to
move forward we need more of this sort of project.Best of luck to them and
thank God they want to race it (Ah hem ... F.A.S.T. are you listening ? )

 
 
 

Redline Snowmobiles....some thought's on their design

Post by MDMe » Thu, 27 May 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>Hello Everyone.

>I was just wondering on what everyone thinks of redline snowmobiles.

>http://SportToday.org/

>Here are a couple of things that came to mind as I was looking at the
>sled.

>1. Snowflap - Considering the rear exit of the track and seat design .
>The mounting of a snow flap on this model would be challenging to say
>the least. I would not want to be the poor bastard riding behid this
>sucker. Although it would look cool with a 50 foot rooster tail coming
>from it in the mountains

I wonder how much "sit in" is built into this suspension?  If there is good
sag, then the snowflap issue wouldn't be as big of a deal as it appears right
now.

No way do I want a sled out on the trail that doesn't have some type of a flap.

Quote:
>2. Storage - With the seat design in current form, it allows no room
>for storage of the smallest items. Mounting a set of saddle bags would
>be scary as well considering the location of the dual exhaust under
>the seat and the lack of full running boards for a second mount point.

For this one I gotta say "who cares!"  Seriously, maybe they could put some
storage under the hood, or add a windshield bag as standard equipment.  (I find
I don't use my rear storage on my Summit now that I have a big windshield bag.)

Quote:
>3. No Rear Bumper - The idea of wrapping your hands around the exhaust
>to manhandle the sled when stuck is not too appealing.

I laughed when I read this!  Good point though.  When I view these pictures I
think of a concept car at the big auto shows.  The basics are there, but it
needs more functionality before hitting the dealer's floor.  How about a set of
sliding handles (like on a wheel-barrow) that slip up under the seat when not
in use?  I've seen these things for sale in the magazines.  They offer better
leverage then just a handle across the back.

Quote:
>4. No Front Bumper - I would hate to ruin the beautiful bodywork on
>this baby trying to turn it around if you were unfortunate and had no
>reverse.

Once again, it will probably have the front bumper by the time it hits the
dealers.  (Maybe not though.  Look how long it took Yamaha to figure it
out......)

Quote:
>5. The Seat - Seat looks like it doesn't have enough stuffing to pad
>your ***for a long day of trail riding.

True.

Quote:
>Other than that, I think the sled is a huge leap foward and a serious
>motivator for the rest of the manufacturer's.  The design is beautiful
>and flows very well. The four stroke concept is exciting.....look how
>far the motorcycle industry has brought their powerplants in a short
>amount of time.

The sad thing is Yamaha could have done this and it would be guaranteed to come
to market.  The major manufacturers are scared to make the big leaps.  Maybe
rightly so, I don't know.

I hope this machine comes to market.  I won't be in line to buy one as I can't
afford "first year" problem machines, but if they worked, I'd certainly be
interested in a year or two.

Matt
Doo owner

 
 
 

Redline Snowmobiles....some thought's on their design

Post by Paul Hasting » Thu, 27 May 1999 04:00:00

The same way your four stroke car starts on a below zero morning.

Paul Hastings
Revelation Graphics
"How great are His signs." Daniel 4: v3a

Quote:
> I`m a bit skeptical as to how that 4 stroke will start on a -20 to
>30 below morning. (Thats if the rider decides to even go out in that
>ype of weather.)

 
 
 

Redline Snowmobiles....some thought's on their design

Post by John » Fri, 28 May 1999 04:00:00

Maybe the block heater is standard on the 4 stroke.......
--
John "Anything you say can & will be misquoted & used against you"
77 Pantera
85 Indy 600
99 700XC


Quote:
> The same way your four stroke car starts on a below zero morning.

> Paul Hastings
> Revelation Graphics
> "How great are His signs." Daniel 4: v3a

> > I`m a bit skeptical as to how that 4 stroke will start on a -20 to
> >30 below morning. (Thats if the rider decides to even go out in that
> >ype of weather.)

 
 
 

Redline Snowmobiles....some thought's on their design

Post by M Rosen » Fri, 28 May 1999 04:00:00

I would think a full synthetic motor oil would be called for, after
all everyone runs synthetic 2 stroke oil.  Should ease the starting
issue some, I would think.

Quote:

>Maybe the block heater is standard on the 4 stroke.......
>--
>John "Anything you say can & will be misquoted & used against you"
>77 Pantera
>85 Indy 600
>99 700XC



>> The same way your four stroke car starts on a below zero morning.

>> Paul Hastings
>> Revelation Graphics
>> "How great are His signs." Daniel 4: v3a

>> > I`m a bit skeptical as to how that 4 stroke will start on a -20 to
>> >30 below morning. (Thats if the rider decides to even go out in that
>> >ype of weather.)

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Post by MDMe » Fri, 28 May 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>after
>all everyone runs synthetic 2 stroke oil.

Damn, I sure wish someone had told me.  I guess I've fallen to "nobody"
status.......

Matt
Doo owner (running on plain old Castrol 2-stroke)

 
 
 

Redline Snowmobiles....some thought's on their design

Post by M Rosen » Sat, 29 May 1999 04:00:00

I guess I should have been a little less general... ;-)

How about - everyone who is into spending lots and lots of extra money
on synthetic 2-stroke oil to make them run a little better?
Sometimes by the threads in this group you would think it is just
about everyone.  I admit I do not run synthetic, not yet anyway.  Ran
Castrol snowmobile oil in my Cougar, 2000 absolutely trouble-free
miles (and before that, a pair of 88 panthers with 9000 mostly-Castrol
miles on them).  Now that my 600 RMK is broken in I may switch
though...


Quote:
>>after
>>all everyone runs synthetic 2 stroke oil.

>Damn, I sure wish someone had told me.  I guess I've fallen to "nobody"
>status.......

>Matt
>Doo owner (running on plain old Castrol 2-stroke)

http://www.bigfoot.com/~rosenau