Used Sled Recommendations

Used Sled Recommendations

Post by Paula L. Philbrook, D1539 » Fri, 26 Sep 1997 04:00:00


Looking for my first sled - located in New Hampshire near Mass. border.
Can anyone give me recommendations on the kind of things to look for and
ask about.  I'm looking for a sled for under $1,800 probably a Polaris.

I've been told to stick with sleds with less than 2,000 miles but I'm
not sure what else I should look for.

Thanks,

Paula

 
 
 

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Post by SkiDoo69 » Fri, 26 Sep 1997 04:00:00

One of the biggest things I would look for is compression.  Both cylinders
sould be with in at leas 5-10 lbs of each other.  Check the track.  Spin it
and make sure there are no tears.  Also, you are probably better off buying
a sled that is unstudded.  Try and get a sled that hasn't been modified. As
in the engine.  You only modify them for one reason, to go fast.
Sean
Strike Three Snowmobiles
'93 mach1

 
 
 

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Post by Jeff Bart » Fri, 26 Sep 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
> Looking for my first sled - located in New Hampshire near Mass. border.
> Can anyone give me recommendations on the kind of things to look for and
> ask about.  I'm looking for a sled for under $1,800 probably a Polaris.

> I've been told to stick with sleds with less than 2,000 miles but I'm
> not sure what else I should look for.

> Thanks,

> Paula

 Paula,

 I wouldn't pay much attention to the miles on the sled. Miles really do not
mean that much, and speedo's have been known to get become "disconnected".
I would look at the overall condition of the sled. Bearings, clutches, overall
appearance. If it looks rough and the speedo only says 1700 miles, it probably
has much more than 1700 miles on it. I saw a ZRT with 800 miles on it this past
weekend, and it looked pretty sad for only 800 miles.

 For $1800 dollors You'll be looking at late 80's Phazers, Indy 400's and Indy
500's. Any of these sleds would be a good choice. If you could come up with
about $500 or so more you would probably find something in the 91-93 area.
Save a little cash for repairs. You'll probably replace carbides, sliders,
a bearing or 2, and maybe shocks on a used sled. If I were buying used, I would
just replace these in the fall and be done with it. If you have questions ask
us here there are is a lot of experience here.

jeff b.

 
 
 

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Post by GULLA.JO » Fri, 26 Sep 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> Looking for my first sled - located in New Hampshire near Mass. border.
> Can anyone give me recommendations on the kind of things to look for and
> ask about.  I'm looking for a sled for under $1,800 probably a Polaris.

> I've been told to stick with sleds with less than 2,000 miles but I'm
> not sure what else I should look for.

> Thanks,

> Paula

I would check for any fluid leaks, track condition (dryrot, damage),
look at tunnel and frame where it cradles the engine for any dents or
twist, clutch operation, any traces of oil in antifreeze (if liquid
cooled), smooth suspension travel, also the condition of the bottom of
the skis, hyfax and track will give you a pretty good indication of what
trail conditions the sled was ridden in.  This is what I usually check

need any further help.  By the way, do you really skydive?

Arctic Cat ZRT 600

P.S.  I live in Methuen, MA and work in Nashua NH

 
 
 

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Post by Judy Richmon » Sat, 27 Sep 1997 04:00:00


Jeff B.'s reply was right on. Speedos don't mean a thing.
As far as riding goes, the Polaris' should give you more of a stable
ride than the Phazer. The Phazer tends to be "tippy", and you need to
use more body english around trail corners. Both have good records for
reliability, and there's a lot of them out there.
Welcome to the sport of snowmobiling. It has made winter my favorite
season!

Judy Richmond Pacanowski
'98 Yamaha 600SX (as of Monday)
Women on Snow  http://www.uic.edu/~judyr/wosindex.html

Quote:

> Looking for my first sled - located in New Hampshire near Mass. border.
> Can anyone give me recommendations on the kind of things to look for and
> ask about.  I'm looking for a sled for under $1,800 probably a Polaris.

> I've been told to stick with sleds with less than 2,000 miles but I'm
> not sure what else I should look for.

> Thanks,

> Paula

 
 
 

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Post by Dlchoo » Thu, 02 Oct 1997 04:00:00

Paula,

Quote:
>I would check for any fluid leaks, track condition (dryrot, damage),
>look at tunnel and frame where it cradles the engine for any dents or
>twist, clutch operation, any traces of oil in antifreeze (if liquid
>cooled), smooth suspension travel, also the condition of the bottom of
>the skis, hyfax and track will give you a pretty good indication of what
>trail conditions the sled was ridden in

1.  Check out the Skid,  (The thing the track is spinning on) see if any of the
 holes drilled in it  to mount the suspension components. (IDLER WHEELS, SHOCK
 MOUNT)  If the holes are elongated that obviously means that the sled was
 ridden hard.  

2.  Check the Hoses, Heat Exchangers and the Radiator for leaks, if studs were
 previously on the track and there were no tunnel protectors installed the Heat
 Exchangers and the tunnel will look like a bomb blew up in there.  

3.  Check the shocks to see if there is any leaks from the shock seals.  (FOX
 and OHLIN shocks are recommended to be rebuilt every season.)  If there is
 leaking the sled  will more than likely need a new set of shocks.

4. Check for free play in the JackShaft.  (Secondary
 Clutch+JackShaft+Sprocket(s)+Track)   Do this by grabbing a hold of the Brake
 Rotor and move it back and forth (Toward the front and rear of the sled), if
 there is a large amount ot play then that is another sign that it was abused.

5.  Check the Chaincase oil, for clean oil or water in it.  If there is water
 then it could of at one time in the not too far away past it could have took a
 nice dip in a lake.

6.  The skis will more than liek need a new pair of Carbides.  I dont care how
 good or bad the snow conditions were, Carbide/Steel and Cement DO NOT MIX.
 Even unloading the sled from the trailer to put it in the Garage or even
 pulling up at a gas station to refuel.  Alot of Gas Stations have a roof over
 the pumps you know.

7.  The excessive worn Hyfax (or Slides) might indicate that the sled was
 ridden in poor snow conditions.  This will present a Lack of lubrication
 between the Skid and the Track Clips.  If that is the case then you will need
 to replace the track clips.  The sled could have been run on Grass or Even
 Sand.  YES EVEN SAND.  I SAW 2 GUYS RUNNING SOME FORMULA III's up a SAnd hill
 racing some 4-Wheelers.

8. Check the Belly pan (for that fact the whole bottom) for cracks, scrapes and
 gouges.

9.  Check the track like the other guy said for Dry Rot or Damage. (Ripped or
 worn down lugs).  If the track is studded make sure that there is no Rips in
 the track.  This indicates loose studs (poor maintainance) and also spells a
 new track (MAYBE)

10. It the track is studded check the conditions of the studs. (Worn Down,
 Chipped, Cracked or missing studs.)  More than likely some or even all of the
 studs need to be replaced.

The last thing, How in the HELL can you check the oil for Antifreeze in it.  I
 believe that there may be a possiblity that this cannot happen.  Two stroke
 motors are either Lubricated by Oil injection or Pre-Mixing the oil and Gas.
You would have a hard time looking in the gas tank for water.  And for that
 fact looking in the Oil Injector Tank for water.

Don
Michigan

There is probably more but if I remember anything else I will let you know..

 
 
 

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Post by GULLA.JO » Sat, 04 Oct 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> Paula,

> >I would check for any fluid leaks, track condition (dryrot, damage),
> >look at tunnel and frame where it cradles the engine for any dents or
> >twist, clutch operation, any traces of oil in antifreeze (if liquid
> >cooled), smooth suspension travel, also the condition of the bottom of
> >the skis, hyfax and track will give you a pretty good indication...

> The last thing, How in the HELL can you check the oil for Antifreeze in it.  I
>  believe that there may be a possiblity that this cannot happen.  Two stroke
>  motors are either Lubricated by Oil injection or Pre-Mixing the oil and Gas.
> You would have a hard time looking in the gas tank for water.  And for that
>  fact looking in the Oil Injector Tank for water.

> Don
> Michigan

> There is probably more but if I remember anything else I will let you know..

Don,

If you read my post again, I wrote to check for traces of OIL in the
antifreeze.  This could be a good indication of warped heads due to
overheating, engine being apart, bad poring job.....Read twice answer
once.

Arctic Cat ZRT 600

 
 
 

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Post by Michael Har » Sun, 05 Oct 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
> > The last thing, How in the HELL can you check the oil for Antifreeze in
it.  I
> >  believe that there may be a possiblity that this cannot happen.  Two
stroke
> >  motors are either Lubricated by Oil injection or Pre-Mixing the oil
and Gas.
> > You would have a hard time looking in the gas tank for water.  And for
that
> >  fact looking in the Oil Injector Tank for water.

> > Don
> > Michigan

> > There is probably more but if I remember anything else I will let you
know..

> Don,

> If you read my post again, I wrote to check for traces of OIL in the
> antifreeze.  This could be a good indication of warped heads due to
> overheating, engine being apart, bad poring job.....Read twice answer
> once.

> Arctic Cat ZRT 600

Also for gasket material/carbon in the coolant tank and or return line
filter... A brand new coolant tank would also be a warning sign!!!!

Ideally you should pressure test the system. It should hold a couple lbs
more pressure than the cap just to be safe.

Michael