questions, opinions wanted, but no fights

questions, opinions wanted, but no fights

Post by Jeff Leo » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 01:38:07


Hello everyone,
I need some real unbiased opinions on a new sled.  I had two vipers
picked out one for me and one for my wife, but due to circumstances
beyond my control, it looks as though I may not be getting them.  I
have had Arctic cats and polaris , and yamaha in the past.  I
currently have a 96 xlt special, and I just sold my wifes 94 AC
cougar.  I also had an 87 el tigre. I don't want to start a fight, but
in my house, the arctic cats were a real nightmare.  So, I am
definately not going in the arctic cat direction(no offense to the
arctic cat guys  in the group).  My wife was really dead set on
getting the vipers, but as it looks as if we aren't going to get them
I am trying to pick an alternate.  I first thought of Polaris, but she
isn't a real polaris lover,  I mean she likes mine, but it is too
heavy and she doesn't like the way it steers.  Plus, I am not sure if
I really like the new graphics this year?  I have a feeling that with
the ho hum reviews that they have gotten this year that they are going
to really shake things up next year.  So that leaves Ski doo.  I have
never had a skidoo, but I have always liked the looks of them.  Now
this year, with all the reviews that I have read, thaey say that the
suspension is fantastic, and that the sleds are very nice.  If you
were going to buy a  new sled, this year, what would you pick?  What
do you like and don't like, and if you own that brand, how dependable
is it.  We like to ride trails with occassional blast of speed in the
clearings.  The trails are mostly mine fields in our area, so bump
handling is a big priority.  Thanks for all of your help in advance.
Jeff
96 xlt special
02 ?
 
 
 

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Post by Frank Wor » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 01:51:10

I drive a Ski-Doo MXZ .
If I was to buy another one, I do like them new
Ski-Doo Legends
Quote:

> Hello everyone,
> I need some real unbiased opinions on a new sled.  I had two vipers
> picked out one for me and one for my wife, but due to circumstances
> beyond my control, it looks as though I may not be getting them.  I
> have had Arctic cats and polaris , and yamaha in the past.  I
> currently have a 96 xlt special, and I just sold my wifes 94 AC
> cougar.  I also had an 87 el tigre. I don't want to start a fight, but
> in my house, the arctic cats were a real nightmare.  So, I am
> definately not going in the arctic cat direction(no offense to the
> arctic cat guys  in the group).  My wife was really dead set on
> getting the vipers, but as it looks as if we aren't going to get them
> I am trying to pick an alternate.  I first thought of Polaris, but she
> isn't a real polaris lover,  I mean she likes mine, but it is too
> heavy and she doesn't like the way it steers.  Plus, I am not sure if
> I really like the new graphics this year?  I have a feeling that with
> the ho hum reviews that they have gotten this year that they are going
> to really shake things up next year.  So that leaves Ski doo.  I have
> never had a skidoo, but I have always liked the looks of them.  Now
> this year, with all the reviews that I have read, thaey say that the
> suspension is fantastic, and that the sleds are very nice.  If you
> were going to buy a  new sled, this year, what would you pick?  What
> do you like and don't like, and if you own that brand, how dependable
> is it.  We like to ride trails with occassional blast of speed in the
> clearings.  The trails are mostly mine fields in our area, so bump
> handling is a big priority.  Thanks for all of your help in advance.
> Jeff
> 96 xlt special
> 02 ?


 
 
 

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Post by Lyle Mille » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 08:49:05

Jeff: In your situation I might look real hard at a used Yamaha Phaser.
Stone reliable, great pricing now that they don't exist anymore and for the
dollar there isn't a smoother ride out there. As an aside, they NEED updated
skis on the '99 and change the gearing to 19t top. Go fast and have fun.


Quote:
> Hello everyone,
> I need some real unbiased opinions on a new sled.  I had two vipers
> picked out one for me and one for my wife, but due to circumstances
> beyond my control, it looks as though I may not be getting them.  I
> have had Arctic cats and polaris , and yamaha in the past.  I
> currently have a 96 xlt special, and I just sold my wifes 94 AC
> cougar.  I also had an 87 el tigre. I don't want to start a fight, but
> in my house, the arctic cats were a real nightmare.  So, I am
> definately not going in the arctic cat direction(no offense to the
> arctic cat guys  in the group).  My wife was really dead set on
> getting the vipers, but as it looks as if we aren't going to get them
> I am trying to pick an alternate.  I first thought of Polaris, but she
> isn't a real polaris lover,  I mean she likes mine, but it is too
> heavy and she doesn't like the way it steers.  Plus, I am not sure if
> I really like the new graphics this year?  I have a feeling that with
> the ho hum reviews that they have gotten this year that they are going
> to really shake things up next year.  So that leaves Ski doo.  I have
> never had a skidoo, but I have always liked the looks of them.  Now
> this year, with all the reviews that I have read, thaey say that the
> suspension is fantastic, and that the sleds are very nice.  If you
> were going to buy a  new sled, this year, what would you pick?  What
> do you like and don't like, and if you own that brand, how dependable
> is it.  We like to ride trails with occassional blast of speed in the
> clearings.  The trails are mostly mine fields in our area, so bump
> handling is a big priority.  Thanks for all of your help in advance.
> Jeff
> 96 xlt special
> 02 ?


 
 
 

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Post by Jeff » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 10:56:46

If I were to pick a new ride from the Ski Doo lineup, I'd go for the
Renegade 600.  I just want to try that longer track thing.  I'd have the
skis adjusted to the wide setting and leave em there.  A longer track is
going to do hills better, and probably take the whoops better.  I want to
try one out.  I think Ski Doo might have a real winner in that thing.

Jeff

Quote:


> > Hello everyone,
> > I need some real unbiased opinions on a new sled.  I had two vipers
> > picked out one for me and one for my wife, but due to circumstances
> > beyond my control, it looks as though I may not be getting them.  I
> > have had Arctic cats and polaris , and yamaha in the past.  I
> > currently have a 96 xlt special, and I just sold my wifes 94 AC
> > cougar.  I also had an 87 el tigre. I don't want to start a fight, but
> > in my house, the arctic cats were a real nightmare.  So, I am
> > definately not going in the arctic cat direction(no offense to the
> > arctic cat guys  in the group).  My wife was really dead set on
> > getting the vipers, but as it looks as if we aren't going to get them
> > I am trying to pick an alternate.  I first thought of Polaris, but she
> > isn't a real polaris lover,  I mean she likes mine, but it is too
> > heavy and she doesn't like the way it steers.  Plus, I am not sure if
> > I really like the new graphics this year?  I have a feeling that with
> > the ho hum reviews that they have gotten this year that they are going
> > to really shake things up next year.  So that leaves Ski doo.  I have
> > never had a skidoo, but I have always liked the looks of them.  Now
> > this year, with all the reviews that I have read, thaey say that the
> > suspension is fantastic, and that the sleds are very nice.  If you
> > were going to buy a  new sled, this year, what would you pick?  What
> > do you like and don't like, and if you own that brand, how dependable
> > is it.  We like to ride trails with occassional blast of speed in the
> > clearings.  The trails are mostly mine fields in our area, so bump
> > handling is a big priority.  Thanks for all of your help in advance.
> > Jeff
> > 96 xlt special
> > 02 ?

 
 
 

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Post by Doug Mill » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 15:08:17

Quote:

> I really like the new graphics this year?  I have a feeling that with
> the ho hum reviews that they have gotten this year that they are going
> to really shake things up next year.

Polaris for 2002 is a neat sled.

I think they have a great product, and they probably spent too much on
R&D and not enough on magazine ad's, so they got poor reviews.

Next year I bet the mags come back with how Poo revolutionized their
sleds, even if they do nothing to them other then graphics.

-doug miller

 
 
 

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Post by COBRASTAN » Thu, 06 Dec 2001 00:13:01

Being a cat guy my bias is leaned that way, but if your leaning toward the Doo
I would go with the Legend.  Good handling,  electronic reverse & electric
start - what more could you ask for?

Randy

 
 
 

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Post by Jeff Leo » Thu, 06 Dec 2001 03:06:01

Quote:


> > I really like the new graphics this year?  I have a feeling that with
> > the ho hum reviews that they have gotten this year that they are going
> > to really shake things up next year.

> Polaris for 2002 is a neat sled.

> I think they have a great product, and they probably spent too much on
> R&D and not enough on magazine ad's, so they got poor reviews.

> Next year I bet the mags come back with how Poo revolutionized their
> sleds, even if they do nothing to them other then graphics.

> -doug miller

Doug,
you may be right on this one.  I just learned from my local mechanic
that about less than a month ago, one of his customers ordered a new
polaris, and he had the option of which graphics package that he
wanted to get on the sled.  Now if this is true, then maybe the
polaris is looking a little better in the running.  But my next
question is , how long is the wait to order a sled say in the next 2
weeks.  Will I get it before march?
Jeff
 
 
 

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Post by gord » Thu, 06 Dec 2001 05:31:19

Quote:
> I had two vipers picked out one for me and one for my wife, but due to
circumstances
> beyond my control, it looks as though I may not be getting them.

If this is a money issue for you I would look for 99' or 2000 SX700's or
600's to stick with Yamaha's. 99's should run you 3500 to 4000 ea. ? They
are great trail sleds.

If your gonna buy new, Polaris is priced right. You could probably pick up
2001 XC 600's for just over 5000. Heck, there's still left over 2000's out
there! The longer the snow stays away the cheaper the left-overs get. I
bought my 99 XC700 for $4900 brand new with warranty. The AC dealer across
the street still wanted 7000+ for a 99' ZRT 6 at the time! It was a no
brainer.
Check some of the really big dealerships for bargains. Depending on where
your at you could find a great deal. Here in MN, we have a glut of Polaris
sleds so they do make good deals if they start piling up.

But you say your looking at new Ski-Doo's?  So why not the Vipers?

good luck & have fun shopping :)

 
 
 

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Post by moss tos » Thu, 06 Dec 2001 07:53:22

I have a 98 ZR 600 EFI and I'm here to tell ya your late 80 early 90
machines can't even be mentioned in the same sentence with the newer Arctic
Cats . Do yourself a favor and look at the ZR 600 EFI or the ZL 600 EFI
SS... The big 4 all make great machines but the worst of the 4 is the Yamaha
no bones about it ...  You might wait for parts on all machines some more
than others ... The dealer is the most important part of the puzzle hands
down ... Get what you like not what you hear we can all point you in a
direction but you have to live with your decision so get what you want...
My ***will only set on Arctic Cat that is just what I like the sled fits
what I need so you cant talk me out of a AC Have fun and GOOD LUCK
P.S. If you cant get new get a hold over or 2 yr old sled save allot of
money that way.....

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Post by Karl Shoemake » Thu, 06 Dec 2001 12:09:04

I'll second that.  When I was shopping about a year ago, I didn't know
much about any of the brands, just that I wanted a newer sled for
climbing.
When I rode the one (I ended up with) it was love at first ride-thing.
I'm still open to at least two brands, but this time I ended up with a
Cat for
this time.

One other suggestion-if you can test ride some sled with a buddy-but of
course I'm
assuming, Jeff that you don't have any sled and want to get
going....with one.

2 cents........

Karl

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Quote:
> direction but you have to live with your decision so get what you want...
> My ***will only set on Arctic Cat that is jus

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Post by Jeff Leo » Thu, 06 Dec 2001 14:04:05

Quote:

> I have a 98 ZR 600 EFI and I'm here to tell ya your late 80 early 90
> machines can't even be mentioned in the same sentence with the newer Arctic
> Cats . Do yourself a favor and look at the ZR 600 EFI or the ZL 600 EFI
> SS... The big 4 all make great machines but the worst of the 4 is the Yamaha
> no bones about it ...  You might wait for parts on all machines some more
> than others ... The dealer is the most important part of the puzzle hands
> down ... Get what you like not what you hear we can all point you in a
> direction but you have to live with your decision so get what you want...
> My ***will only set on Arctic Cat that is just what I like the sled fits
> what I need so you cant talk me out of a AC Have fun and GOOD LUCK
> P.S. If you cant get new get a hold over or 2 yr old sled save allot of
> money that way.....

> Moss,

That is the biggest reason that I don't want to give arctic cat
another try.  There is a lack of dealerships in my area.  I mean, if I
want to drivve 60 miles round trip for a few dollar part, then it
would be justified.  The closest dealer is about fif*** miles away,
but my past dealings with him were downright miserable.  Example:  I
bought my wifes 94 cougar from him used.  When I picked the sled up,
he told me I had a 30 day warranty.  I didn't have any snow for the
first 30 days that I owned the sled.  My first snow ride, was around
the yard.  That night, I was going to go for a night ride, and the
lights were so dim, that I could not see.  I called him the next day
to brong the sled in.  3 days later, he said the stator was bad, and
it would cost $90 dollars to fix.  I tried to explain the it was the
first ride that i could take n the sled.  After 2 more days of
fighting with him, he agreed to fix it for warranty.  4 days later, I
picked the sled up, and drove to my riding destination .  Guess what,
the lights went out again.  Brought the sled back in and was told
later that a bolt on the stator wasn't tightened and caused the stator
to break again.  1 week later the sled was finally home and rideable
until the nest disaster.

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Post by Jeff Leo » Thu, 06 Dec 2001 14:08:33

Quote:

> > I had two vipers picked out one for me and one for my wife, but due to
>  circumstances
> > beyond my control, it looks as though I may not be getting them.

> If this is a money issue for you I would look for 99' or 2000 SX700's or
> 600's to stick with Yamaha's. 99's should run you 3500 to 4000 ea. ? They
> are great trail sleds.

> If your gonna buy new, Polaris is priced right. You could probably pick up
> 2001 XC 600's for just over 5000. Heck, there's still left over 2000's out
> there! The longer the snow stays away the cheaper the left-overs get. I
> bought my 99 XC700 for $4900 brand new with warranty. The AC dealer across
> the street still wanted 7000+ for a 99' ZRT 6 at the time! It was a no
> brainer.
> Check some of the really big dealerships for bargains. Depending on where
> your at you could find a great deal. Here in MN, we have a glut of Polaris
> sleds so they do make good deals if they start piling up.

> But you say your looking at new Ski-Doo's?  So why not the Vipers?

> good luck & have fun shopping :)

Gordy,
there is a lack of vipers in my area.  all the dealerships that i have
looked at sold any leftover from snowcheck fast.  I originally had
some on hold in canada, but some finances that i have been waiting for
for about six month is still not in, so the dealership couldn't hold
them any longer.  Sucks, but there are some great new sleds this year,
that is why I asked everyone's opinion on the subject

thanks
Jeff

 
 
 

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Post by Doo ride » Fri, 07 Dec 2001 14:11:19

I own a Mxz 700 and a Formula Z 600. Both  are 2000's. I love my sled and dont
want to get rid of it, But my buddt just got his 2002 Legend gs 700. One
word....Sweet!!!