> >Oh, blow it out your ears, both of you. The ONLY way I ever really talked
> >about baseball here was when I expressed my dilemma of a conflict with the
> >Legends coverage. That hardly constitutes "talking about baseball," and I
> >haven't brought other topics in here like some of you do.
> I`m not the one constantly snivelling about the off topic posts,
> YOU are!!
It's not "sniveling," only you characterize it as such because YOU don't
like it. It's legitimate complaint. You choose to label it negatively
because you don't like it, that's all.
> >And I'm not the "almighty keeper of this newsgroup," nor do I think I am.
> >Nor do I post off-topic messages like the rest of you.
> No, you just selectively respond to the off topic posts that suit you, &
> about the ones you disagree with.
I'm sorry, but this is bullshit. I do not. In fact, I try very hard not to
because I know the very second I even mention a word here that doesn't
have to do with skating--even ONE SINGLE WORD--people like you are going
to leap on it and say "Oh, Trudi, that hypocrite, she's going OFF TOPIC
AGAIN like she always complains about other people doing!" Sheesh.
> >Why don't some of you grow up and stop taking potshots at me every time I
> >try to remind you someone is going off topic.
> For the most part, we are ***s here & are quite capable of scanning
> weeding out the posts we don`t care to read,
Which will soon take over the entire newsgroup if some people have their
way. I'm saying, "we ***s" shouldn't be burdened with that when the
"posts we don't care to read" have nothing to do with skating, else what
is a newsgroup for?
> without having to constantly be plagued with your incessant ramblings
> concerning off topic posts.
Oh, baloney. I'm not the only one who gets annoyed, and you know it.
Trying to demonize me as the only person who cares is a transparent piece
of crap. And yes, I label it as such because it's my opinion that it is.
> I for one consider all this "International
> Skate-Trolling Union" crap, an insult to the intelligence of the people who
> would like to be more involved with this newsgroup but have given up on it,
> rather than be subjected to your arrogant nonsense.
Like this newsgroup NEEDS more trolls who deliberately try to stir up
trouble by being ***s. If that's the kind of group you want to read,
fine. Go to alt. skate. You should find it just your speed.
> I am NOT going away.
> get used to it.
If you don't want to go away, fine. When you have contributed something of
half the substance some other decent people have contributed here, maybe I
will take your insults more seriously. Until then, I have little to be
concerned about when newbies come in here and *** away at me. You call
it arrogance. I call it earning the right to be listened to.
> >If it wasn't for people like
> >me and Sandra this would have become the Drunk Driving/Princess
> >Diana/Taxes newsgroup a long time ago.
> Above is a prime example of your arrogance,
Oh, bullshit. I am just telling it like it is.
> you just can`t seem to grasp the
> fact you are trying to control the content of this newsgroup to suit your own
Like FIGURE SKATING????? Gosh, I thought that's what it was FOR! Please
enlighten me, O Newbie (or at least that's what your screen name makes you
look like), from all my years of mistaking this for a *figure skating*
newsgroup. Believe me, I'll never darken its door again if it turns out to
be about something I have no interest in discussing.
> Whenever you are confronted you always
Well, there's a great reason not to listen to you. You used the phrase
"You always..." Nobody "always" or "never" does anything.
> manage to either consider
> your opposition a troll or some other form of disruption of the newsgroup.
I SOMETIMES do this, and that's when some of them ARE. Did that thought
ever enter your mind, or did you just make up your mind that because you
didn't like me, I must be wrong all the time?
> wouldn`t call my words "Pot Shots" I am simply fed up (You can rest assured
> that I am not alone) with your brand of censorship.
Reason number two not to like you: the old "I am not alone, there are lots
of faceless, nameless minions of people behind me who agree with me but
are too afraid to say what they think" bullshit. The argument of cowards
who are too scared to stand up for what they have to say without having to
point to phantom supporters who for some strange reason never make
Get this straight and get it straight right now. I am not trying to win
popularity contests here. I am trying (with the help of others) to
maintain this newsgroup as a place to discuss figure skating, not a
zillion other topics. You tell me to filter it out if I don't like it when
people go off topic. No, that's not the answer. The answer is for the
people who want to go off topic to TAKE IT TO MAIL. To adjust their
behavior for the sake of the rest of the group, rather than expecting the
rest of the group to "deal with it or take the extra effort needed to sift
And that's all I have to say about it. If I haven't earned the right
through the years I've been here to ask that much of people in this
group--along with other people like Sandra Loosemore and Joelle--then I
really *don't* belong here.
President for Life, International Skate-Trolling Union
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