The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

Post by Wayne Jo » Sat, 27 Mar 1999 04:00:00


http://www.sportsweb.com/news/SPO=LEN/SPO=LEN-n4021285.13-16-55.html

"American Kwan did not compete in any of the six Grand Prix events nor
in the final this season, but International Skating Union president
Ottavio Cinquanta said on Friday the ISU wants her back in the series
next season. "We cannot force skaters to compete but we have the right
not to permit them to take part in Open International competitions," he
said. These events are sanctioned by the ISU. ""

"Cinquanta rejected a suggestion the ISU might be too demanding of its
skaters.

"We want them to compete in two Grand Prix series events, the series
final, the European or Four Continents Championship and the world
championship - five events.

"We do not think asking them to compete in five events is too
demanding," he said"

 
 
 

The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

Post by anna.. » Sat, 27 Mar 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
> http://www.sportsweb.com/news/SPO=LEN/SPO=LEN-n4021285.13-16-55.html

> "American Kwan did not compete in any of the six Grand Prix events nor
> in the final this season, but International Skating Union president
> Ottavio Cinquanta said on Friday the ISU wants her back in the series
> next season. "We cannot force skaters to compete but we have the right
> not to permit them to take part in Open International competitions," he
> said. These events are sanctioned by the ISU. ""

Well, see ya in 2002, Michelle.  Have fun in college.  And nice going,
Ottavio.  You just lost your biggest star.

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The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

Post by ANIEB » Sat, 27 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Cinquanta sez:

Quote:
>>>"We want them to compete in two Grand Prix series events, the series

final, the European or Four Continents Championship and the world
championship - five events.  We do not think asking them to compete in five
events is too
demanding," he said.<<<

I guess he forgot that most skaters also skate in their respective NATIONAL
competions, so that's 6 events.  In Olympic years, that's 7 events.
Additionally, he doesn't count any "open" events in his tally, which means  if
any top eligible skaters compete in the opens, this would further add to their
event  tally.  Five events, indeed!

My god, this guy is SUCH A FREAKING IDIOT, not to mention an A**SHOLE!

(Note:  if NONE of the top eligibles compete in the "opens," what would be the
point of those competitions?  To see lower ranked eligibles compete against
pros?  No, thank you.)

 
 
 

The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

Post by Lorrie K » Sat, 27 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>Cinquanta sez:
>We do not think asking them to compete in five
>events is too
>demanding," he said.<<<

        Okay.  We now know that:

        Ottavio Cinquanta has never sat down with a pencil and piece of
paper to figure out the ramifications of his formerly beloved OBO.
        Ottavio Cinquanta has never checked any ISU event schedule of any
season against any calendar.
        Ottavio Cinquanta has never, even for kicks, simulated drawing up
an annual training schedule, choreography and costume budget from the
point of view of a figure skating competitor.

        I can only conclude that he deeply desires to push Michelle Kwan
into the pro ranks forever.
        Just imagine.  He stays up nights thinking up these things!    

                                        Lorrie Kim

 
 
 

The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

Post by Chelsea Christenso » Sat, 27 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> "Cinquanta rejected a suggestion the ISU might be too demanding of its
> skaters.

> "We want them to compete in two Grand Prix series events, the series
> final, the European or Four Continents Championship and the world
> championship - five events.

> "We do not think asking them to compete in five events is too
> demanding," he said"

And the national competition makes six.

So, no more amateurs in those "Pro-Am" competitions?  Fine with me,
actually.

 
 
 

The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

Post by dmcbu.. » Sat, 27 Mar 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
> http://www.sportsweb.com/news/SPO=LEN/SPO=LEN-n4021285.13-16-55.html

> "American Kwan did not compete in any of the six Grand Prix events nor
> in the final this season, but International Skating Union president
> Ottavio Cinquanta said on Friday the ISU wants her back in the series
> next season. "We cannot force skaters to compete but we have the right
> not to permit them to take part in Open International competitions," he
> said. These events are sanctioned by the ISU. ""

> "Cinquanta rejected a suggestion the ISU might be too demanding of its
> skaters.

> "We want them to compete in two Grand Prix series events, the series
> final, the European or Four Continents Championship and the world
> championship - five events.

> "We do not think asking them to compete in five events is too
> demanding," he said"

Further proof that this guy is living on some other planet than the rest of
us. Five events probably isn't too much for some skaters but probably is too
much for others. Some skaters would burn right out doing something this
demanding and we'd lose whatever wonderful qualities in skating they would
have brought to amateur competition. Do we really want amateur skating to
belong only to those with the greatest physical endurance? There has got to
be a more reasonable way to level the playing field than this.  And these are
*amateurs* for heaven's sake -- did it ever enter his mind that some of these
skaters, even at the elite level, might want to have something resembling a
life?  That many still would like to acquire some education while they are
maturing?  How will they be able to do anything but train and compete for a
substantial part of the year if this fruitcake gets his way?

digi

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The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

Post by Sarah Weinma » Sat, 27 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Quote:



> > http://SportToday.org/

> > "American Kwan did not compete in any of the six Grand Prix events nor
> > in the final this season, but International Skating Union president
> > Ottavio Cinquanta said on Friday the ISU wants her back in the series
> > next season. "We cannot force skaters to compete but we have the right
> > not to permit them to take part in Open International competitions," he
> > said. These events are sanctioned by the ISU. ""

> Well, see ya in 2002, Michelle.  Have fun in college.  And nice going,
> Ottavio.  You just lost your biggest star.

I'm inclined to agree with this, espec after the short program results, and
regardless of what happens at Worlds.

I suspect MK is going to have a lot of thinking to do this summer. And I
wouldn't be surprised if she just ditched everything for college. Why take
the ***from the ISU? Seriously.

Sarah

 
 
 

The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

Post by Nonnie » Sat, 27 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>>"We want them to compete in two Grand Prix series events, the series

final, the European or Four Continents Championship and the world
championship - five events.

"We do not think asking them to compete in five events is too
demanding," he said"<<

Well, try it!!!

And, what about Nationals???  That makes six, Ottavio.  If the ISU thinks that
its skaters are going to compete in six events per season, they'd better do a
little reworking of their schedules!  Obviously Cinquanta has never even
stopped to consider not only how burned out skaters will get, but how goddamned
expensive all that flying around is!  To have Nationals, GP Finals, 4Cs/Euros,
and Worlds all in the span of maybe a month and a half is ridiculous, not to
mention the Olympics!!!  It will force older skaters out of eligible
competition faster and the skating roulette will change from champion to
champion so fast that the public will not have a chance to know a skater before
they become burned out and retire.

If Ottavio Cinquanta intends on forcing the GP on skaters, there will be a
public outcry far sooner.

Jocelyn, disgusted
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The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

Post by Tsoe » Sat, 27 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>I'm inclined to agree with this, espec after the short program results, and
>regardless of what happens at Worlds.

>I suspect MK is going to have a lot of thinking to do this summer. And I
>wouldn't be surprised if she just ditched everything for college. Why take
>the ***from the ISU? Seriously.

Well, if the ISU wants a "big" name for the grand prix series, why not
reinstate pros like Baiul. She wants it, she is a big name and her melodramatic
story will attract everyone from TV viewers to the National Enquirer. That way
Kwan can do the pro-ams, nationals and worlds and Baiul can do grand-prix, her
nationals,  europeans and worlds. The only problem with this scenario is that
the ratings for the grand-prix series will be great a first but the attention
will drop IF Baiul is unable to deliver and/or can't make it pass her own
nationals to go to Europeans or 4 Continents?

In anycase, I think the ISU is overreacting over nothing. Michelle Kwan hasn't
exactly said that she was not going to do the grand-prix series next season.
For all we know, she wants to!

Tsoeur

 
 
 

The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

Post by Carole Marcu » Sat, 27 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> http://www.sportsweb.com/news/SPO=LEN/SPO=LEN-n4021285.13-16-55.html

> "American Kwan did not compete in any of the six Grand Prix events nor
> in the final this season, but International Skating Union president
> Ottavio Cinquanta said on Friday the ISU wants her back in the series
> next season. "We cannot force skaters to compete but we have the right
> not to permit them to take part in Open International competitions," he
> said. These events are sanctioned by the ISU. ""

> "Cinquanta rejected a suggestion the ISU might be too demanding of its
> skaters.

> "We want them to compete in two Grand Prix series events, the series
> final, the European or Four Continents Championship and the world
> championship - five events.

> "We do not think asking them to compete in five events is too
> demanding," he said"
> ISU wants Kwan in Grand Prix series
> this article has some incorrect info, like saying that Michelle was the
> only 'name' skater skipping the GP Series this season, what about the
Olympic
> Men's Gold medalist and them Olympic Pairs gold medalists?  What are
they,
> chopped liver?
> http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/wire/stories/0,1169,848962_10946,00.html

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Pleas e excuse me if this posts twice. I tried on Deja Vu and am not sure
the post made it through.

I read this article. Here is a quote:

"We want them to compete in two Grand Prix series events, the series final,

the European or Four Continents Championship and the world championship
- five events.

"We do not think asking them to compete in five events is too demanding,"
he said.

My question now is-since he did not mention the Pro-Am events--just exactly
who would be skating in them if he only wants what is stated in the above
quote.

Could it be true that he does not really want any eligible skaters in the
Pro-Am events because the Pro-Am events were just a gimmick to destroy the
Pro events altogether as they were getting the higher television ratings-so
I have read.

I find his quote very, very telling. And frankly, the Pro-Am events have
more or less effected just that end. Pro competiton has effectively been
destroyed IMHO.

Carole

 
 
 

The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

Post by Carole Marcu » Sat, 27 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> http://www.sportsweb.com/news/SPO=LEN/SPO=LEN-n4021285.13-16-55.html

> "American Kwan did not compete in any of the six Grand Prix events nor
> in the final this season, but International Skating Union president
> Ottavio Cinquanta said on Friday the ISU wants her back in the series
> next season. "We cannot force skaters to compete but we have the right
> not to permit them to take part in Open International competitions," he
> said. These events are sanctioned by the ISU. ""

> "Cinquanta rejected a suggestion the ISU might be too demanding of its
> skaters.

> "We want them to compete in two Grand Prix series events, the series
> final, the European or Four Continents Championship and the world
> championship - five events.

> "We do not think asking them to compete in five events is too
> demanding," he said"
> ISU wants Kwan in Grand Prix series
> this article has some incorrect info, like saying that Michelle was the
> only 'name' skater skipping the GP Series this season, what about the
Olympic
> Men's Gold medalist and them Olympic Pairs gold medalists?  What are
they,
> chopped liver?
> http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/wire/stories/0,1169,848962_10946,00.html

> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

Pleas e excuse me if this posts twice. I tried on Deja Vu and am not sure
the post made it through.

I read this article. Here is a quote:

"We want them to compete in two Grand Prix series events, the series final,

the European or Four Continents Championship and the world championship
- five events.

"We do not think asking them to compete in five events is too demanding,"
he said.

My question now is-since he did not mention the Pro-Am events--just exactly
who would be skating in them if he only wants what is stated in the above
quote.

Could it be true that he does not really want any eligible skaters in the
Pro-Am events because the Pro-Am events were just a gimmick to destroy the
Pro events altogether as they were getting the higher television ratings-so
I have read.

I find his quote very, very telling. And frankly, the Pro-Am events have
more or less effected just that end. Pro competiton has effectively been
destroyed IMHO.

Carole

 
 
 

The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

Post by DeleteN » Mon, 29 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
(Nonnie 72) writes:
>  To have Nationals, GP Finals, 4Cs/Euros,
>and Worlds all in the span of maybe a month and a half is ridiculous, not to
>mention the Olympics!!!  It will force older skaters out of eligible
>competition faster and the skating roulette will change from champion to
>champion so fast that the public will not have a chance to know a skater
>before they become burned out and retire.

It will force school-goers (public and college) out as well.

Peg


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The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

Post by Janice4 » Mon, 29 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>GEE this sounds a lot like Tara's reasons for turning pro.
>My my my.

I don't believe Michelle has made such a statement.
Janice
"Fringe Poster"

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The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

Post by Trish O'Bri » Mon, 29 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>(Ricardo) writes:



>>>I suspect MK is going to have a lot of thinking to do this summer. And I
>>>wouldn't be surprised if she just ditched everything for college. Why take
>>>the ***from the ISU? Seriously.

>>>Sarah

>>GEE this sounds a lot like Tara's reasons for turning pro.
>>My my my.

>Since when Tara started college? She's not even going to school, is she?

Nope - she's spending time with dear ol' Dad and the dogs (arf!).
 
 
 

The ISU might ban Kwan from the opens next year

Post by Prodigio » Tue, 30 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 14:38:24 -0500, "Albert Parker"

> >Please refresh my memory, what university is Lipinski attending?

> I'll refresh your logic instead. She's going to start college 2 years
> before the next Olympics.

That remains to be seen for *both* of the ladies involved. Of all the
facets of dualism to fight over, this one is downright ridiculous.

-Dave-