SPOILER -- USFSA Pro-Am Results

SPOILER -- USFSA Pro-Am Results

Post by Lorrie K » Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:00:00


The U.S. Postal Service Figure Skating Challenge (USFSA Pro-Am, November
27-28 here in Philadelphia) had a weird format -- three teams, each
consisting of an eligible woman, an ineligible woman, an eligible man and
an ineligible man.  Each skater performed a technical and an artistic
program; scores were added into team totals.  The teams, in order of
finish:

1.  Caryn Kadavy, Michelle Kwan, Aren Nielsen, Paul Wylie
2.  Scott Davis, Scott Hamilton, Tonia Kwiatkowski, Elaine Zayak
3.  Nicole Bobek, Todd Eldredge, Mark Mitchell, Rosalynn Sumners

I didn't keep score for the technical, but in the artistic, here's how
the skaters finished:

Women
1.  Michelle Kwan
2.  Nicole Bobek
3.  Caryn Kadavy
4.  Elaine Zayak
5.  Rosalynn Sumners
6.  Tonia Kwiatkowski

Men
1.  Scott Hamilton
2.  Paul Wylie
3.  Scott Davis
4.  Aren Nielsen
5.  Mark Mitchell
6.  Todd Eldredge

As exhibitions, Ina & Dungjen performed "You're the One that I Want" from
"Grease" and Roca & Sur did "Exercises in Free Love" (a Freddie Mercury
falsetto solo).

Hamilton, of course, got ovations before he skated each night, and was
technically on with the best triple lutzes of the competition.  His
artistic, done to a song I don't know (it starts out "It's a quarter to
three," and mentions having "one for my baby, and one for the road"), had
the most thoughtful footwork I've seen from him in a long time, and was
obviously his tribute to Sergei.  He looked inexpressibly sad, even while
acknowledging his slew of 6.0s.  Scottie does serious numbers so rarely
that they're all the more precious, and this one was as compelling as any.

Wylie, Kadavy, and Eldredge were not up to their usual crispness, at least
jump-wise; Mitchell astonished me by energizing the crowd with the same
disco medley that gagged me in Fox's Rock and Roll Championships;
Kwiatkowski's "Firebird" short was gorgeous, but she had a bad night in
the long.  I was pleased to see Elaine Zayak's firm command of her triple
toe loop.  Aren Nielsen is*** on to his triple axel.  Roz Sumners
was warming up a double axel-double toe for the short, but it disappeared
in competition.  Nicole Bobek was technically off for both programs,
although the audience responded well to her "Pocahontas" interpretation.  
Scott Davis seemed nervous for the technical (he was up first) and
touched down on a couple jumps, but he rallied somewhat for the long.  Is
it just me, or is he losing the title of Best American Spinner to Todd
Eldredge?  Eldredge's spins were not only fast and perfectly positioned,
but he had a lovely strong flow out of them, whereas I'm never quite sure
what Davis is doing when he stops his.

As far as I'm concerned, Michelle Kwan was the news of both nights.  Her
technical program was completely perfect.  Her artistry looks crisp and
decisive to me.  Her only mistake in the "Salome" artistic was falling on
that triple loop....  I applaud the role of Salome for her.  Fif*** is
exactly the right age.  It's a lot more appropriate than Marina Klimova
skating as Juliet when she's older than Juliet's mother was.  Besides,
most fif***-year-old American girls are quite interested in portraying,
if not being, temptresses.

Both evenings of skating started out with an exhibition by Stash Serafin,
a 42-year-old Philadelphian who is legally blind, and a moment of silence
for Sergei Grinkov.

Speaking of which...  It's hard for me to believe that Gordeeva could tour
with Stars on Ice this very season, but if she does, I think an excellent
partner for her would be Kristi Yamaguchi.  They are similar in size,
talent and precision. (Granted, Katya is much, much faster.) Kristi also
has extensive pair training, and reportedly misses skating pairs very
much, so she could understand Katya's feelings perhaps better than most
other people could.  This would avoid the problem of all other male
skaters being obviously inferior to Sergei, and would also give Sandra
Bezic's hetero*** cliche-ridden mind something interesting and new to
chew on.

This thought doesn't come out of nowhere.  Many of you will recall the
1993 Stars on Ice show, which included "Edges of Spain" -- G & G, Kristi,
and Brian Orser together.  Kristi and Katya did a pair camel (I think),
and it was breathtaking and all too brief.

Lorrie Kim

 
 
 

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Post by Judy Yentsun Tse » Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:00:00

Thanks for posting about the competition! Does anyone know when and if
this will be televised?

Yen

 
 
 

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Post by Louis Epste » Sat, 02 Dec 1995 04:00:00

: As far as I'm concerned, Michelle Kwan was the news of both nights.  Her
: technical program was completely perfect.  Her artistry looks crisp and
: decisive to me.  Her only mistake in the "Salome" artistic was falling on
: that triple loop....  I applaud the role of Salome for her.  Fif*** is
: exactly the right age.  It's a lot more appropriate than Marina Klimova
: skating as Juliet when she's older than Juliet's mother was.


Marina Klimova is barely 29.I know Juliet died just short of 14,but how
can we be sure that her mother was under 29 at the time??

 
 
 

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Post by Louis Epste » Sun, 03 Dec 1995 04:00:00


: Thanks for posting about the competition! Does anyone know when and if
: this will be televised?

ABC will have it,they do all USFSA Pro-ams.

 
 
 

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Post by Sk8Fa » Sun, 03 Dec 1995 04:00:00


writes:

Quote:
>: As far as I'm concerned, Michelle Kwan was the news of both nights.
Her
>: technical program was completely perfect.  Her artistry looks crisp and
>: decisive to me.  Her only mistake in the "Salome" artistic was falling
on
>: that triple loop....  I applaud the role of Salome for her.  Fif*** is
>: exactly the right age.  It's a lot more appropriate than Marina Klimova
>: skating as Juliet when she's older than Juliet's mother was.


>Marina Klimova is barely 29.I know Juliet died just short of 14,but how
>can we be sure that her mother was under 29 at the time??

Picky, picky Louis!  In the middle ages, most girls were promised for
marriage at birth or shortly after (if their father's had an available
dowry...otherwise they were sent to a convent or forced into
prostitution).  They were booted out of the house (ie married off) pretty
much when they started to get annoying (most mothers of *** age girls
would put that at between 10 and 13, ie puberty).  They started to have
babies as soon as their bodies were capable (immediately in most cases).
Juliet's mother could have had several children by the age of 16.
(13+16=29...)

Lorrie is correct...15 is a good age to portray Salome (I'd have to crack
a book to check if Salome's actual age was recorded for when she danced
the infamous dance).  No matter how you add up the years regarding
Juliet's mother (that's a fictional character, Louis, you can't be "sure"
about a fictional character's age!) 29 is way too old to be portraying
Juliet.  Would you believe a 30 something Clara?  Oooo...let me get my toe
shoes!

Mare

 
 
 

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Post by Louis Epste » Sun, 03 Dec 1995 04:00:00

: Lorrie is correct...15 is a good age to portray Salome (I'd have to crack
: a book to check if Salome's actual age was recorded for when she danced
: the infamous dance).  No matter how you add up the years regarding
: Juliet's mother (that's a fictional character, Louis, you can't be "sure"
: about a fictional character's age!) 29 is way too old to be portraying
: Juliet.  Would you believe a 30 something Clara?  Oooo...let me get my toe
: shoes!

I've seen Maria Tucci portray Juliet onstage at something like 40...

As far as Claras go,I assume that's Bobek's role in the current tour?
If I were casting an ice Nutcracker,I'd have Klimova as the Sugar Plum
Fairy,Ponomarenko as the Sugar Plum Cavalier...

 
 
 

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Post by Amy Asht » Wed, 06 Dec 1995 04:00:00

Quote:
>I've seen Maria Tucci portray Juliet onstage at
>something like 40...

Actually, now that I think of it, didn't Gelsey
Kirkland do Juliet when she (Gelsey) was in
her... gosh, late 30s?

Amy
--
Old age isn't so bad when you consider the alternative.
-- Maurice Chevalier

 
 
 

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Post by Amy Asht » Wed, 06 Dec 1995 04:00:00

Quote:
>Would you believe a 30 something Clara?  
>Oooo...let me get my toe shoes!

So you must not have liked Gelsey Kirkland
as Clara (well, I think she was more 20's
at the time, but...).

Come on, you all! Since when has skating been
literal truth? They're interpreting out there! I
don't believe Michelle is Salome any more than
I believe Marina Klimova is Juliet. That doesn't
spoil my enjoyment of the program.

Don't be so literal, everyone!

Amy
--
Old age isn't so bad when you consider the alternative.
-- Maurice Chevalier

 
 
 

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Post by M.S. Burt » Wed, 06 Dec 1995 04:00:00

Quote:
>>I've seen Maria Tucci portray Juliet onstage at
>>something like 40...

 and Dame Margot was still doing Juliet in her 50s.... It also was a
traditional role for the middle-aged actress in the 1800s, as it was
thought that only they had the experience to interpret the role (...of
course as they were often married to the company manager, that might have
also had something to do with it)

 I'd rather see an older Juliet than a baby Salome, any day.

 
 
 

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Post by Su-jan Yi » Mon, 18 Dec 1995 04:00:00

Ekaterina Gordeeva is the perfect "Juliet". Watch G&G's long
programme of 1990 (the best performance of it was at the
Europeans) and you'll see why. The right costume and everything
else was just perfect for that part. And, of course, Sergei made
a very nice "Romeo". God, I wish, he was still alive. I miss him
so much.

An G&G admirer forever.
Su-jan. (from Germany)