Paul & Who? (Was Gordeeva and Dmitriev!)

Paul & Who? (Was Gordeeva and Dmitriev!)

Post by revjoe.. » Tue, 12 Nov 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>The only person I could ever see Katia skating with is
>> Paul W. because they are already close, and Paul was a pairs champ once
>> upon a time.
John Lincoln/DCOM writes:
> Many people don't know
>that he was a pair skater at one time.  I even have some video
>tape of Paul and his junior pairs partner, Dana Shelby.  They
>were Junior Pair champions at one time, like around 81-82.

They quit because their sponsorship fell through.  He's awful short for a
pairs, but with his line and flow, with the right partner, it could be a
Tai & Randy kind of thing.  But not Katya--she's too athletic.

I've often thought of this for a cheesy pro competition--make the singles
pair up and the pairs skate singles.  Wouldn't that be fun?

Joelle

 
 
 

Paul & Who? (Was Gordeeva and Dmitriev!)

Post by pegle.. » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>I've often thought of this for a cheesy pro competition--make the singles
>pair up and the pairs skate singles.  Wouldn't that be fun?

Fabu!  We (NG posters *and* lurkers alike) could put in a dollar and
become cheesy promoters. It will *have* to be done with spotlights. And
team scoring. And Kraft cheese could be a sponsor (or Dairy Council?), as
can the sequin producers of the world. ;-D

Seriously, though, I like it. And I'll bet the scores all, in the words of
the *imitable* Terry Gannon, range from 9.7 to 10.0!

Peg (who wishes she'd thought of this first)

 
 
 

Paul & Who? (Was Gordeeva and Dmitriev!)

Post by j.. » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> John Lincoln/DCOM writes:

> > Many people don't know
> >that he was a pair skater at one time.  I even have some video
> >tape of Paul and his junior pairs partner, Dana Shelby.  They
> >were Junior Pair champions at one time, like around 81-82.

> They quit because their sponsorship fell through.  He's awful short for a
> pairs,

I remember reading somewhere that he knew he had to quit pairs when the girls grew
and he didn't.

Quote:

> I've often thought of this for a cheesy pro competition--make the singles
> pair up and the pairs skate singles.  Wouldn't that be fun?

> Joelle

That's a great idea!  Along the same lines, I've always wondered what it would
look like to have skaters skate eachother's programs.  I mean, after touring
together they must know the numbers by heart.  It could be kind of amusing to see
Kurt attempt Hair or Kristi rock to Brick House.

JEN (who probably has too much time on her hands)

 
 
 

Paul & Who? (Was Gordeeva and Dmitriev!)

Post by revjoe.. » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
Jen writes:
>That's a great idea!  Along the same lines, I've always wondered what it
>would
>look like to have skaters skate eachother's programs

Seems to me, Katarina Witt made quite a reputation for herself in her
amatuer days doing just thatl!

Joelle

 
 
 

Paul & Who? (Was Gordeeva and Dmitriev!)

Post by revjoe.. » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00

I said:

Quote:
>I've often thought of this for a cheesy pro competition--make the singles
>pair up and the pairs skate singles.  Wouldn't that be fun?

Peg Lewis said:

Quote:
>Fabu!  We (NG posters *and* lurkers alike) could put in a dollar and
>become cheesy promoters. It will *have* to be done with spotlights. And
>team scoring. And Kraft cheese could be a sponsor (or Dairy Council?), as
>can the sequin producers of the world. ;-D

Okay--we're on.  Here's my first entry:

DANCE- Scott Hamilton & Ekaterina Gordeeva.  No, hear me out.  From the
promoters point of view, you can't put Katya in pairs cuz the public's not
ready for it.  Hence, dance and Scott is a nice safe partner

For skating reasons these two work because

a) they are both known for speed--I think Katya is the only female who
could keep up with him.
b) They have a great rapport I noticed at the Grinkov tribute

c) She's tiny enough for him to do dance lifts (although he could probably
handle pair lifts--he's small but strong.  I saw a picture of him working
out with his shirt off, oh my. *Very* nice)

d)  She's got a sense of humour that would work well with Scott

So I see something fast, fun and lighthearted, but not silly.  Christopher
Dean would choreograph it, of course...

Any other suggestions?

Joelle

 
 
 

Paul & Who? (Was Gordeeva and Dmitriev!)

Post by Valerie Sta » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>I said:

>>I've often thought of this for a cheesy pro competition--make the singles
>>pair up and the pairs skate singles.  Wouldn't that be fun?

>Peg Lewis said:

>>Fabu!  We (NG posters *and* lurkers alike) could put in a dollar and
>>become cheesy promoters. It will *have* to be done with spotlights. And
>>team scoring. And Kraft cheese could be a sponsor (or Dairy Council?), as
>>can the sequin producers of the world. ;-D

>Okay--we're on.  Here's my first entry:

>DANCE- Scott Hamilton & Ekaterina Gordeeva.  No, hear me out.  From the
>promoters point of view, you can't put Katya in pairs cuz the public's not
>ready for it.  Hence, dance and Scott is a nice safe partner

No, no, no!  Yuka Sato could maybe keep up with Scott on footwork.  Try
them.  

Get Roz Sumners to do Brick House.  She knows the routine already.  They
caught her on camera dancing along with Kurt.

Elvis and Surya?  Both athletic.  Maybe Midori would be better.

Oooooo...  Jozef Sabocek (sp?) and Rory Flack Burghart.  They're both tall and
high jumpers.

Alexei and Oksana?  Hmmmm...  The costumes could be blinding...

This is fun!

Val

 
 
 

Paul & Who? (Was Gordeeva and Dmitriev!)

Post by moessinger claudi » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
> Jen writes:

> >That's a great idea!  Along the same lines, I've always wondered what it
> >would
> >look like to have skaters skate eachother's programs

> That's occurred to me too. I always thought it would be a neat idea for a
> competition to have piece of music assigned (or agreed upon by the
> skaters) and see how various skaters would interpret the same music. Hey,
> these ideas may be cheesy but they can't be any worse than Battle of the
> Sexes!

> Sandy

I belive there already is a competition like this -it is called
interpretive skating - they have this category at *** Nationals ( I
think) and some other lower level eligible events. But - I think it would
be great fun to see the pros give it a shot.
 
 
 

Paul & Who? (Was Gordeeva and Dmitriev!)

Post by pegle.. » Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>I said:

>>I've often thought of this for a cheesy pro competition--make the
singles
>>pair up and the pairs skate singles.  Wouldn't that be fun?

>Peg Lewis said:

>>Fabu!  We (NG posters *and* lurkers alike) could put in a dollar and
>>become cheesy promoters. It will *have* to be done with spotlights. And
>>team scoring. And Kraft cheese could be a sponsor (or Dairy Council?),
as
>>can the sequin producers of the world. ;-D

>Okay--we're on.  Here's my first entry:

>DANCE- Scott Hamilton & Ekaterina Gordeeva.  No, hear me out.  From the
>promoters point of view, you can't put Katya in pairs cuz the public's
not
>ready for it.  Hence, dance and Scott is a nice safe partner

>For skating reasons these two work because

>a) they are both known for speed--I think Katya is the only female who
>could keep up with him.
>b) They have a great rapport I noticed at the Grinkov tribute

>c) She's tiny enough for him to do dance lifts (although he could
probably
>handle pair lifts--he's small but strong.  I saw a picture of him working
>out with his shirt off, oh my. *Very* nice)

>d)  She's got a sense of humour that would work well with Scott

>So I see something fast, fun and lighthearted, but not silly.
Christopher
>Dean would choreograph it, of course...

>Any other suggestions?

>Joelle

Suggestion Number Two - Pairs: Josef Sabovcik & Caryn Kadavy - the legs
just go on & on & on. I can see them doing side-by-side camels, nested Ina
Bauers, star lifts, etc., showing off those long legs

The possibilities are infinite. Are we limiting these to pro skaters? I'm
getting several eligible pairs, like Bonaly & Stojko (side-by-side quads?)

And I always wondered if Irina Rodnina could skate solo.

Anyone else?

Peg

 
 
 

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Post by pegle.. » Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>That's occurred to me too. I always thought it would be a neat idea for a
>competition to have piece of music assigned (or agreed upon by the
>skaters) and see how various skaters would interpret the same music. Hey,
>these ideas may be cheesy but they can't be any worse than Battle of the
>Sexes!

>Sandy

Actually, this idea has some merit (depending upon the music selected, of
course.) The Van Cliburn Piano Competition has the field compete with solo
works, chamber music works, and a piano/orchestral work. (That's showing
versatility. In skating, it would be like having the skaters compete in
singles, pairs and precision all in the same contest.)

To the point: One of the solo works every competitor must present is a
piece specially written for that year's contest, which each competitor
receives and learns only a short time (I don't remember exactly, but 3
weeks comes to mind) before the competition starts. This shows how well
you can understand, learn, interpret and present a piece of music which no
one has ever studied or recorded before.

Now, obviously in skating we're not going to see skaters work up a program
to brand new music, but I could see asking the field to put together a
program - even improvise one - to a song or arrangement or actual
classical music that is identified, say, a month before the contest. To
make it fair, make the whole contest that way - one program done with
planning to a rock (or whatever is chosen) song with an attitude (mood
optional), and the second done on the spot to some classical warhorse
everybody has heard, or if we're daring, to something unusual.

Could be fun to watch, particularly if the pieces are fun & the attitude
of the competition is lighthearted. Would be B O R I N G in the extreme if
the songs are too long, too heavy, and if the commentators present it as a
high-drama athletic event.

I like your idea, Sandy!

Peg (Okay, now you know I'm an unemployed classical musician. Wanna make
something of it? ;-D  )