For everyone sick of reading those "figure skating is not a sport" articles...

For everyone sick of reading those "figure skating is not a sport" articles...

Post by Hattie » Tue, 30 Jul 2002 04:52:07


Quote:

>Oh, BTW, does it surprise anyone to discover that the events this guy
>covers regularly are boxing and the NFL?
>--
>Trudi

96 % polled disagree with Borges article on Lance .

Harriet

 
 
 

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Post by DG51 » Tue, 30 Jul 2002 05:35:16

Quote:
Trudi writes:

<snip description of idiot's article>

Quote:
>Oh, BTW, does it surprise anyone to discover that the events this guy
>covers regularly are boxing and the NFL?

Boxing is not a sport:
1.  It's two guys standing around a lot and just occasionally throwing a punch.
 Very little action -- certainly less than 4 minutes if you isolated it from
all the standing around and posturing.
2.  It's boring.
3.  It's not aerobically demanding like real sports such as those involving
running, skating, and biking.
4.  Too many breaks.  Real sports just do it and get it over with.
5.  They group people according to size categories, because they're too wussy
to mix it up like in real sports (pairs, ice dance, and most team sports).
6.  Judging scandals cause a lot of controversy.  The lack of an objective
measure complicates things even for real sports, like figure skating.
7.  Don King and assorted other "promoters" are the real show, not the
athletes.
8.  The so-called athletes are paid stupidly high amounts, like baseball
players, for standing around a lot.
9.  Hitting people isn't sport, it's ***.
10.  Where's the frickin' ball?!?!?  (or ball equivalent?)

That was easy.  Football might be a bit tougher, but I could do it.

Daria
Timing is everything.

 
 
 

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Post by Joel » Tue, 30 Jul 2002 05:56:34

What kind of shape are these sportswriters who pontificate about what is and
isn't sports and athletic anyway?

Joelle
If you want to make God laugh, tell him what you are doing tomorrow
Father Mike

 
 
 

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Post by Isiaf » Tue, 30 Jul 2002 06:41:08

Downhill skiing is also not a sport...I mean look at them...they just squat
down and do very little actual movement.

Sling Skate

(http://www.inmotionmagazine.com/pig.html)
Pigs are intelligent, sensitive, and clean.
Isn't this exactly what women are looking for?

 
 
 

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Post by Alison Hughe » Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:51:27

Quote:

>...I point you to the summer edition of "Stupid Sportswriter Shoots His
>Clueless Mouth Off" at:

>http://www.msnbc.com/news/785267.asp

WOW!! To blow every tiny shred of credibility you might have (once) had as a
journalist the way he does here would seem to indicate he REALLY REALLY took
offence to Lance Armstrong being referred to as "the world's greatest
athlete". Like, how sensitive are we today??
 
 
 

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Post by Ellen Arnol » Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:54:56



Quote:
> In this one, the author argues that Lance Armstrong and his fellow
> cyclists are not really athletes.

Oh, I dunno . . . what would you call a guy whose resting heart rate is
between 32 and 35 beats per minute and whose body fat percentage is 3 to 4%?
And I won't even mention the more esoteric stuff such as his VOmax, etc.
Sounds like a real athlete to me!

Cheers,
Ellen

 
 
 

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Post by Eugene Ki » Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:51:51

Oh, heavens to Betsy - this fellow could argue that auto racing isn't a sport. (I'm not a fan, but I don't go around saying it isn't a sport.)

Quote:

> ...I point you to the summer edition of "Stupid Sportswriter Shoots His
> Clueless Mouth Off" at:

> http://SportToday.org/

> In this one, the author argues that Lance Armstrong and his fellow
> cyclists are not really athletes. Why not? Here are his reasons, or at
> least what appear to be his reasons:

> --He does his alleged athletic work sitting down. I mean, come on.

> --The seat he sits on is skinny, and he sits on it for hours.

> --All the physical work he has to do is pumping his legs up and down.
> (Yeah, right.)

> --Nobody cares about a marginal sport like cycling anyway. Except skinny
> people. (For some reason, he uses the epithet "skinny" several times to
> put Lance and his fans down. I'm shocked he doesn't make the usual obvious
> remarks about guys who wear Spandex, but somehow he doesn't.)

> --He doesn't have to play defense while he's doing it.

> --If you take the bike away, he might not be all that fast. (Well, duh.)

> --Quote: "For my money, being the greatest athlete in the world involves
> strength, speed, agility, hand-eye coordination, mental toughness and the
> ability to make your body do things that defy description." (Oh well, at
> least that's a relief. He MUST think figure skating is a sport, then, even
> if he doesn't think cycling is. Besides, skaters don't have a seat to sit
> down in while they skate.)

> --He think it's important to counteract the minority of media who are
> trying to persuade America's sports fanatics "that the less we see of
> something the better it really is." He knows this is nonsense. I mean,
> sure, ESPN2 shows this kind of stuff, but they also show lumberjack
> competitions, curling and dogs jumping over fences. That doesn't make
> cycling a sport.

> Anyway, give it a read, if you can keep your temper. You will at least get
> the comfort from it of knowing that this kind of article isn't exclusively
> written about figure skating; it's written periodically about various of
> the less popular sports by Neanderthals who refuse to recognize anything
> but the sports they consider to be "sports" as athletic endeavors. Oh, and
> you'll just love how he manages to get in a snide little speculation that
> Armstrong is only winning the Tour de France so many times because he is
> using performance-enhancing ***, without producing anything to back it
> up other than the rumor itself. (Oh yeah, and we all know athletes in real
> sports have NEVER done that.)

> Oh, BTW, does it surprise anyone to discover that the events this guy
> covers regularly are boxing and the NFL?
> --
> Trudi
> "If students know less when they leave the course than when they began, the course will have done its work."--from a description in the Binghamton University Course Guide, Fall 2002

 
 
 

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Post by Eugene Ki » Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:53:33

Quote:

> What kind of shape are these sportswriters who pontificate about what is and
> isn't sports and athletic anyway?

Careful, careful. I wouldn't want to try to prove my qualifications to be
President of the United States every time I feel like criticizing President
Bush.
 
 
 

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Post by Britt Grave » Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:44:18


Quote:

> > What kind of shape are these sportswriters who pontificate about what is
and
> > isn't sports and athletic anyway?

> Careful, careful. I wouldn't want to try to prove my qualifications to be
> President of the United States every time I feel like criticizing
President
> Bush.

True, but there's a difference in being the President of the United States
and writing a little column for a website.  I know I don't have the
qualifications to ascend to the White House, but I could certainly do a
better job at writing a column like this than the sportswriter nutcase did.

It's something I think the sportswriter forgot...if he can do better, then I
challenge him to go win the Tour de France four times.  I'll have an
especially fun time watching him try to pedal his bike up all those
mountains for a solid week.

Britt

 
 
 

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Post by Jean » Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:39:18

<< > Boxing is not a sport: >>

Here you have two guys/women with no prior argument with each other.....

Put them in a car, let them drive around, have an accident....then duke it out.

Jeanne Seinfeld

 
 
 

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Post by Bruce Scott T » Wed, 31 Jul 2002 00:44:28

They wrote exactly this sort of ***against soccer during and after the
World Cup...

It is US mediocy rather than anti-figure-skating...  the other data
point is that you don't see these "figure skating is not a sport" pieces
in Europe (at least I've never seen one).

--
cu,
Bruce

drift wave turbulence:  http://SportToday.org/~bds/

 
 
 

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Post by Sally4s » Wed, 31 Jul 2002 01:15:46

Quote:
>What kind of shape are these sportswriters who pontificate about what is and
>isn't sports and athletic anyway?

>Joelle

Joelle,

This is what I was going to mention. If this guy ever got his heartrate up as
high as Lance's must be on those mountain climbs, he'd keel over.

SallyH

 
 
 

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Post by M. Burwe » Wed, 31 Jul 2002 04:05:38

Quote:

> > That was easy.  Football might be a bit tougher, but I could do it.

> > Daria
> > Timing is everything.

> OK, let me have at it:

> Football is not a sport because:

> 1. It's just two teams of guys charging at each other to gain possession
> of a ball. It requires no finesse whatsoever, at least if you take out the
> passing game.

> 2. It's boring. (unless a team I like is playing, of course)

> 3. Too many breaks, unlike real sports such as running, skating and
> biking. The refs are blowing the damn whistles every ten seconds while
> everyone stands around waiting for them to assess penalties.

> 4. The game is too slow because there are so many penalties always being
> assessed. How can anyone get ahead when there are so many penalties?

> 5. Only men get to play. Where are the women?

> 6. The referees make controversial calls. There is no objectivity whereby
> you can be sure someone was doing something illegal, stepped out of
> bounds, etc.

> 7. The teams get too many turns to score. In skating, you have only a few
> minutes on the ice to do your thing to win, and that's it. In football,
> you get several chances to score before you have to turn the ball back
> over to the other team. And if the other team can't get anywhere, or even
> if they do, you get a chance to score again.

> 8. The athletes are paid stupidly high amounts.

> 9. Hitting people isn't sport, it's ***.

> 10. Where's the frickin' ice and skates?

11. The players are too dumb to know what to do next so the coaches
have to keep sending in substitues to tell them what to do.

Marg

 
 
 

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Post by john » Wed, 31 Jul 2002 04:34:58

I'm waiting for the one, "Your average White guy can't
play sports anyway" :-) They are beating the ***out
of us in everything now ... golf, tennis. What is a poor
rich guy to do? At least in Figure Skating, they are not
allowed to win. Heh!

johns

 
 
 

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Post by Raymond Chuan » Fri, 02 Aug 2002 03:07:14


Quote:
> ...I point you to the summer edition of "Stupid Sportswriter Shoots His
> Clueless Mouth Off" at:

> http://www.msnbc.com/news/785267.asp

Ron Borges teed me off to no end writing that article.

Okay, Mr. Borges, if you think Lance Armstrong is not an athlete, try doing
the following:

Ride a bicycle going uphill from Placerville, CA over Echo Summit to South
Lake Tahoe, CA. Ride going uphill at an average speed of 20-25 mph. After
reaching Echo Summit, pedal at 65 mph downhill to Lake Tahoe.

That's how tough some of the stages of the Tour de France can be.

My ASCII art of what I think about Mr. Borges' remarks: -.|.. :-)

--
Raymond Chuang
Mountain View, California USA