I heard just recently on the news that they are planning to ban ice
dancing from the Olympics until they clear up the judging biases.
>> I heard just recently on the news that they are planning to ban ice
>> dancing from the Olympics until they clear up the judging biases.
>The IOC will keep Ice Dance in the Olympics, but has told the ISU to clean
>up its act. The ban idea came from the Canadian representative, in obvious
>disgust about B&K's placement.
>>> I heard just recently on the news that they are planning to ban ice
>>> dancing from the Olympics until they clear up the judging biases.
>>The IOC will keep Ice Dance in the Olympics, but has told the ISU to clean
>>up its act. The ban idea came from the Canadian representative, in obvious
>>disgust about B&K's placement.
>(polite cough), Pound is a representative on the IOC panel who originates
>from Canada. But I believe, that from what I've read, he doesn't actually
>represent Canada anymore, he represents the IOC. Let's pretend he
>came from Smallovia and try it again. And the ban idea was a scare
>tactic to get the isu to tighten up its rules, so all the dancers and the
>judges know what direction they want ice dance to go, be it faster
>or with more complicated footwork as long as they are moving in the
Cheers (and apologies for following the Hack with two sneezes,
but no sneers).
2. This other IOC official denied that the IOC is considering the removal of ice
dance. How can anyone say this? If I'm an IOC member, I can say that I'm not
considering it, but how can I say that my colleagues are or are not?
>> IMVHO Pound is Power personified in Canada.
>When the Rebagliati (snowboarder-***) affair came to the IOC
>Board, why did Pound abstain instead of voting for the athlete, which would
>saved Canada from the possibility of another Ben Johnson scandal?
>1. Pound never said the IOC was going to kick ice dancing out - all he said
>that he was going to propose to his colleagues that it be considered.
>big difference between him declaring ice dancing is out and him suggesting
>removal be considered.
(Inside joke: How do we know the premier interfered in Mile 6?
Dan Miller? A: written records and testimony. Maybe the IOC guys are
that our lox pols). <g>
> >1. Pound never said the IOC was going to kick ice dancing out - all he said
> >that he was going to propose to his colleagues that it be considered.
> There's a
> >big difference between him declaring ice dancing is out and him suggesting
> >removal be considered.
> And did I say Pound made such a statement? If I did, I apologize, but I
> don't recall it. Paper tiger?
I went back and did a little researching. IOC sports director Gilbert Felli was
the official who said "We trust this sport. There is no reason to do that [drop
it]." Felli is an administrator, he does not make decisions regarding what
sports are on the Olympic Programme. Pound is a member of the IOC. He, along
with the other 120 or so members, will decide. To trust Felli's word would be
like trusting the word of a civil servant when the politicians clearly do not
>>Do I think he is a bad person? No.
>>Do I think he is inefficient? Certainly not.
>>Do I think he is power-deficient? Most emphatically, NO. Just the
>>Do I think he interferes in areas he should not? Definitely.
>>Do I think he always uses his power for the best end? NO!
>Do I think he's the only one guilty of power wielding? no
>Did I think that ice dance would be banned? no
>Do I think that this will have an impact on ice dance? hmm, probably not.
Pound says it's decided in advance.... maybe? But in Nagano, I think I would
have placed the top 4 exactly where they finished. B&K were clearly 4th.
However at World's IMO it was a little closer and I think depending on what
you're looking for there could have been some placement shifts in the top 3.
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>>Well obviously there are many who see this as a conflict of interest, i.e.
>>will do anything to get his Canadian ice dancing team the gold. So if he
>>careful to abstain and steer clear of the conflict of interest issue back
>>February, why would he not do the same now, for show or not for show?
>well let's get real. who else would have brought forth a motion about ice
>dancing? If (I said "if") there is a significant "power/politics" factor
>in ice dance judging, the countries that are IN a position of power are
>not going to make a stink. The countries that have not yet been affected
>are probably wise to "lie low". If the skaters from the country you are
>from have had a 12-year beef with ice dancing judging, so that you KNOW
>something about what's being alleged, and if a large public furore arises
>(as it did), and if you know/believe that no one else in a position to do
>so is going to make a move, perhaps you feel honor bound to do it
Thanks, again and
The ISU is not going to let the IOC exclude dance from the Winter Games. All
the ISU has to do is say, fine, we'll pull all of skating out. Then you have a
Winter Games that is not worth anything to the TV market - bye, bye mega
millions and bye, bye the Winter Games. The ISU knows that and so does the IOC.
12. Ban on Tights