New Progress Report (Really long post)

New Progress Report (Really long post)

Post by Frank Rome » Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:47:03


Hello everybody,

First let me apologize for lurking and subsequently de-lurking every
few months.  I hope to post more regularly instead of my usual routine
of posting an update and then riding off into the sunset like a Lone
Ranger wannabe.  :-)  In any case, I've been a real slacker with my
skating in some areas while in other areas I've been progressing
pretty well.  The slacking has happened in that since I competed in my
first event in August I have neither competed nor tested.  Shame on
me!  I hope to make up for all that in about a month.  I'm planning on
testing my USFSA preliminary free.  I've had all of the required
elements for a while and I've had the program choreographed since the
summer but I wanted to make a few changes and I'm happy with what my
coach and I have come up with.  Since the summer I've changed the
order of my jumps around somewhat, I've changed the order of my spins,
changed the entrance into my loop jump, and added a new circular
footwork sequence at the end right before a brand spanking new scratch
spin to close.  So yeah, the program got an overhaul!  Working on the
circular footwork is actually kind of fun even though I'm not 100%
comfortable with it.  Basically it's a small waltz jump to back left
outside edge, cross-behind, toe in to a full turn on my toe picks,
cross-behind, choctaw, bauer 3 to the right, bauer 3 to the left,
choctaw to left forward inside edge to 2 brackets on the left foot.
Then if I survive all of that then I get to make myself dizzy with the
scratch spin.  :-)  My spins have been coming along even though they
were nowhere to be found today.  The camel spin comes and goes but the
sit is usually there.  On a good day I can do camel-sit-back sit.  My
back camel is usually decent and I've been toying with a flying camel
too.  The jumps have also been coming along well.  I can usually land
about 80% of the axels I try.  I've also been getting better about
getting in a good air position on the axel as well.  I've been trying
double salchow and double toe walley and I have been able to land them
but I usually don't hit more than half of the attempts I make at
either of these jumps.  I need to work on that.  After I get the
preliminary free test done I need to get back to work on the
pre-juvenile moves test.  The three turns in the field and the power
pulls are killing me right now.  I'll get them eventually...I hope.
:-)  So that's my report.  Hope everyone is doing well and that we all
have a happy and safe holiday season.

Frank

 
 
 

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Post by john » Sun, 22 Dec 2002 11:56:58

How did you train up to the axel. I think I'm ready to
start mine again. I broke my ankle last year, and I've
been working back up, and it all feels pretty good now.
I landed axels pretty well on my inlines two summers
ago, but I took it easy this summer. I'm sort of sticking
with the idea of building a lot of safety into my jumps
by developing better style at slower speeds. I've done
very well in all the jumps in that reguard, and I am really
enjoying them a lot more as a result. My next jump to
try to develop along those lines is, naturally, the axel.

johns

 
 
 

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Post by Frank Rome » Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:36:21

Hi,

I took up skating because I wanted to learn more about it and I
thought that by learning to skate I'd learn more about the sport.
Well, needless to say I have learned quite a bit.  The world of figure
skating is just that, a world unto itself.  Probably the lesson that
stands out to me right now is that as important as the physical side
of skating is, the mental aspect is what is so critical most of the
time.  When I first started working on my program over the summer I
was starting a new job, was skating a lot less than I was used to and
wasn't feeling like I was progressing very well.  All of this put me
in a very tenuous frame of mind and it was showing through in my
run-throughs leading up to my first competition.  The day of the event
I thought that no matter what happens that I should just enjoy being
out on the ice and block everything else out.  I did just that and it
made such a difference.  It was the best I ever skated my program and
I was smiling from ear to ear practically the whole program.  I even
surprised my coach!  Even when I'm not competing I notice how much my
frame of mind affects everything.  If I'm relaxed and happy to be out
on the ice I tend to skate much better.  If I'm preoccupied or down in
any way I tend to miss more elements and I don't feel as sharp.  It's
logical that one's frame of mind would affect one's performance but
it's amazing to actually experience how different things can feel on
the ice depending on your mood.

Frank

Quote:

> Nice report.  Any acquired insights are welcome, too.


 
 
 

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Post by Frank Rome » Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:58:44

Hi John,

When I first started working on the axel the first thing my coach
wanted me to do was to feel comfortable getting into a tight air
position.  She had me do waltz jump/loop combinations to get used to
getting over the axis of rotation and holding it for the 1.5
revolutions.  She also had me do waltz jumps landing into back spins
as well for the same reason.  I originally had a lot of trouble with
staying over the skating side of my body during the jump.  I had this
tendency to tilt outside of the circle.  What really helped me with
that was entering the axel from a back inside to back outside change
of edge before stepping onto the forward edge just prior to stepping
up into the axel.  This really helped me to check my upper body
against my lower body on that back outside edge prior to the jump and
that seemed to add a lot of stability to my entrance.  We also had to
work on my bringing my arms up and out in front of me and not swing
them around as the free leg was coming through on the take-off.  I
used to swing my arms around my body and that would get me all twisted
in the air and make the landing hard to control.  I guess those are
the big things we worked on. I can't say for sure that they'll help
you because I don't know if we had errors in common on this jump but I
hope it works out for you.  My coach and I are still making more
corrections and it's still not 100% there for me but it's a lot better
than it was.  I sprained an ankle with the axel and it can be very
scary.  I still waxel now and then.  About 3 weeks ago I waxeled and
fell chest first on the ice and slid to a grinding halt about a foot
away from where Sylvia Fontana was trying to give a lesson!  How's
that for a humbling experience?  lol  :-)  She was very nice about the
whole thing.  In any case, keep working at it and you'll be just fine.
 Best of luck!

Frank

Quote:

> How did you train up to the axel. I think I'm ready to
> start mine again. I broke my ankle last year, and I've
> been working back up, and it all feels pretty good now.
> I landed axels pretty well on my inlines two summers
> ago, but I took it easy this summer. I'm sort of sticking
> with the idea of building a lot of safety into my jumps
> by developing better style at slower speeds. I've done
> very well in all the jumps in that reguard, and I am really
> enjoying them a lot more as a result. My next jump to
> try to develop along those lines is, naturally, the axel.

 
 
 

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Post by john » Sun, 29 Dec 2002 09:43:31

Quote:
> scary.  I still waxel now and then.  About 3 weeks ago I waxeled and
> fell chest first on the ice and slid to a grinding halt about a foot
> away from where Sylvia Fontana was trying to give a lesson!  How's
> that for a humbling experience?

I've been through the same train up, but I think my limited
experience with developing a good backspin is hurting me.
My drill on the inlines was  .. on the step forward on LFO,
I kept my free leg extended behind me so as I rotated up
onto the Ltoe-pick at the takeoff, I had built a lot of momentum
that was released as I drove my Rknee up to my Lshoulder.
That produced a very vertical axel with a whole lot of spin.
At first, I just spun *on* the Ltoe-pick .. which was easy
to do ... and checked off at 1 1/2 revs. So my axel was
done completely with the Rknee lifted, and only lowered
to land and check out. I worked slowly towards popping
higher off the Ltoe-pick, and continued to land on my Lskate
( two footing the landing ) until I was sure I had the complete
1 1/2 revs. Then, I just started lifting the Lskate up and over
my Rskate so when I landed on the Rskate, my Lskate
would touch down on the top of my Rskate ... a PDQ axel.
I also think that is how the ladies now have their 3-axel ..
spinning up into it with the momentum coming from the
extended free leg when the Rknee is pulled in and up to
the Lshoulder. I'd sure like to move mine to the ice, but
like you say .. when laying there looking up at Sylvia ..
"a humbling experience".

johns

 
 
 

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Post by Frank Rome » Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:48:55

Hi John,

Well it certainly sounds like you've put a lot of effort into learning
your axel on the inlines.  I'm sure you'll have it on the ice in no
time.  It also sounds like you've got the hang of crossing your legs
in the air on it and that's great.  That's actually something I'm
still struggling with now.  I have this tendency to squeeze my legs
together side-by-side instead of crossing them.  I've gotten to the
point on the axel where as long as I don't go up horizontal I can
usually land it.  However, it's not really consistent in terms of the
air position and it's still not technically correct 100% of the time.
So I'll work on it until it's right.  I've also been working this week
on doing an axel/axel jump sequence.  I've actually had pretty good
luck with landing this but the second axel feels small and spinny.
That needs work too.  :-)  In any case, best of luck with your
skating.  Thanks for the reply.

Frank

Quote:

> I've been through the same train up, but I think my limited
> experience with developing a good backspin is hurting me.
> My drill on the inlines was  .. on the step forward on LFO,
> I kept my free leg extended behind me so as I rotated up
> onto the Ltoe-pick at the takeoff, I had built a lot of momentum
> that was released as I drove my Rknee up to my Lshoulder.
> That produced a very vertical axel with a whole lot of spin.
> At first, I just spun *on* the Ltoe-pick .. which was easy
> to do ... and checked off at 1 1/2 revs. So my axel was
> done completely with the Rknee lifted, and only lowered
> to land and check out. I worked slowly towards popping
> higher off the Ltoe-pick, and continued to land on my Lskate
> ( two footing the landing ) until I was sure I had the complete
> 1 1/2 revs. Then, I just started lifting the Lskate up and over
> my Rskate so when I landed on the Rskate, my Lskate
> would touch down on the top of my Rskate ... a PDQ axel.
> I also think that is how the ladies now have their 3-axel ..
> spinning up into it with the momentum coming from the
> extended free leg when the Rknee is pulled in and up to
> the Lshoulder. I'd sure like to move mine to the ice, but
> like you say .. when laying there looking up at Sylvia ..
> "a humbling experience".