Vienna men full final results/Question

Vienna men full final results/Question

Post by Ellen B. Edgert » Sat, 18 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Okay, I'm very confused now about the 6 Olympic qualifiers at Vienna for
the men.  According to the list of qualification contenders at the various
websites, it seems that Anthony Liu and Ivan Dinev were skating for a
berth.  I don't get it, because Liu finished well above 24th at Lausanne
and Dinev finished 23rd.  (I understand Meier having to qualify, since he
was a "courtesy entry"  in the final anyway because Switzerland was the
host country.)

Anyhow, by the list of contenders posted, it would seem that the 6
qualifying nations for the Olympics were Australia, Bulgaria, Switzerland,
Italy, Slovakia and Kazakhstan.  

Has anyone heard what jumps Dan actually did in the free skate today?  The
AP story does not mention, but he must have skated quite strongly since it
seems that Liu and Dinev (who was 2nd in the free) both landed a lot of
triples.  Dinev landed seven triples.  Liu apparently fell on a quad.  He
was the only one who tried one.

I'm sure Dan is breathing a sigh of relief right about now.  It was
important for him to win this one, I think, not merely place in the top 3.
A great way to start out a new season with a new coach.  Obviously it was
a good idea for Dan to go back to a long program that isn't quite as busy
as his ill-fated "Carmen" program from last season.  (He is skating to
"Legends of the Fall" again, although I don't know whether he has made any
major choreography changes.)  Aside from the confidence booster of skating
a comfortable familiar program, I just thought his long for last season
was a little much.  Fine with me - I really admired his "Legends of the
Fall" program and I'm looking forward to seeing it again.

The final standings (asterisks indicate skaters who supposedly were
skating for Olympic berths):

 1  Dan HOLLANDER        USA   2.0   2   1
 2**Anthony LIU          AUS   3.5   1   3
 3**Ivan DINEV           BUL   5.5   7   2  
 4  Ruslah NOVOSELEZEV   RUS   5.5   3   4
 5  Jayson DENOMMEE      CAN   7.0   4   5
 6**Patrick MEIER        SWI  10.0   6   7
 7**Gilberto VIADANA     ITA  11.0  10   6
 8**Robert KAZIMIR       SVK  13.0   8   9
 9**Yourii LITVINOV      KZK  13.5   5  11
10**Patrick SCHMIT       LUX  15.5  15   8
11**Robert GRZEGORCZYK   POL  16.5   9  12
12  Sven MEYER           GER  17.5  14  10
13**Markus LEMINEN       FIN  19.0  13  13
14**David LIU            TPE  20.5  11  15
15**Kyu-Hyun LEE         ROK  22.0  16  14
16  Aleksei KOSLOV       EST  23.0  12  17
17**Jan CEJVAN           SLO  25.0  18  16
18  Radek HORAK          CZE  26.5  17  18
19**Jordi PEDRO          SPN  29.0  20  19
20**Fredi SKOBERLA       SFA  29.5  19  20

Retired:
    Vakhtang MURVANIDZE  GEO
    Zoltan KOSZEGI       HUN

 
 
 

Vienna men full final results/Question

Post by Spam Hat » Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>Okay, I'm very confused now about the 6 Olympic qualifiers at Vienna for
>the men.  According to the list of qualification contenders at the various
>websites, it seems that Anthony Liu and Ivan Dinev were skating for a
>berth.  I don't get it, because Liu finished well above 24th at Lausanne
>and Dinev finished 23rd.  (I understand Meier having to qualify, since he
>was a "courtesy entry"  in the final anyway because Switzerland was the
>host country.)

Seems like the assumption that the top 24 at Worlds qualify a spot for
their country is wrong, but there is no  detailed explanation of how
it works.  So if Nicole, Tara, and Michelle had placed 20th, 21st, and
22nd, USA would not have been able to send three,
My best guess is that the World's qualified 24 spots, not necessarily
the top 24.  For example,  I think perhaps France qualified for 3
spots even though they had only two ladies at Worlds; the two ladies
both placed well.

 
 
 

Vienna men full final results/Question

Post by NLat » Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
Spam Hater writes:

<<So if Nicole, Tara, and Michelle had placed 20th, 21st, and
22nd, USA would not have been able to send three>>

If that would have happened the US would not have been able to send 2 skaters
 to the Olympics. Maybe, the US would have had to qualify at Vienna too if that
 occurred.

<<I think perhaps France qualified for 3
spots even though they had only two ladies at Worlds; the two ladies
both placed well.>>

According to the USFSA 96-97 media guide, the points required for 3 entries
 with 2 skaters is 3-13. So with Vanessa Gusmeroli finishing 3rd and Latetia
 Hubert finishing 7th, that was a total of 10 giving France 3 spots in 98 for
 the Olympics and Worlds.
Nat