Is spinning healthy? Maybe not for some.

Is spinning healthy? Maybe not for some.

Post by Dirk » Thu, 09 Dec 2004 04:42:15


Quote:

> Well aside from John's highly informative rant I think you are being
foolish
> for using a newspaper article, written by someone with little medical
> training who is trying to condense a lengthy medical report of well
known
> medical knowledge, rather than seeking expert medical advise.  Go see
an ENT
> and if you want a second opinion, go see a Neurologist.
> Lyle

You know, your reply is poorly thought out and the only one that really
disgusts me. I am not seeking medical advice or a 2nd opinion in my
post, and I don't think it even suggests that. So, Lyle, shove your
sarcastic advice! I don't mind the people who offered their advice,
see-a-doctor, or don't-see-a-doctor based on their experience.

Also, you obviously didn't read the article, because the author WAS
seeking medical advice, and writing about her experience in an
intelligent way, including information from cutting-edge research that
is clearly still theory. She was in no way trying to "condense a
lengthy medical report of well known medical knowledge." The exact
processes that cause injury to the memory, whether through head injury,
old age, or diseases such as Alzheimer's are not "well known medical
knowledge." The understanding and definition for brain/memory problems
is constantly shifting and being expanded. The medical editors at the
NYTimes would not have allowed her article to be published if it were
fallacious or poorly written.

After my accident, where I fell and struck my head, I saw a gaggle of
doctors, had brain scans and many other tests, and since my lover is an
an ophthalmologist, he gave me a retinal exam and things are fine.

As far as John's "highly informative rant" goes, I don't know if you
are being saracastic, but I thought some of his points might be helpful
to others, and he shares the feeling of myself and others that it is
best to avoid doctors, if you can!

I wrote it to alert older skaters that perhaps if they experience
dizziness to the point of seeing stars, it would be best to cut back on
the way they approach spinning. For example, ease into the speed of
spins, spinning slower at the beginning of a session. There is a
possibility, as suggested by at least one researcher, that it might not
be all that healthy to move your head in a way, or play a sport that
causes this level of dizziness where you are seeing stars. My scratch
spins are sometimes at speeds that are faster than all but a few
competitive skaters. It is the only technical aspect of my skating that
got better as I got older. Spinning can put unusual stress on the head
when done at high speeds or especially if the head is out of position.
I don't do headless spins for that reason. I stopped doing those before
my accident.

I think there is an obvious distinction between being a little dizzy,
and dizzy to a point where you see stars. Maybe until the final verdict
is in, it just might be smart to avoid the types of movements that
cause "seeing stars." Perhaps being a little dizzy, and spinning
itself, can even be therapeutic, as another poster suggested. Before I
read that article, I never thought there was any possible danger or
damage in seeing stars for a few seconds, but now, after reading the
article, I am going to think of ways I can avoid that. I'm not going to
give up skating or spinning, I'm just going to be much more careful in
how I work up to spinning in a session. If there is any POSSIBILITY
that being dizzy to a point of seeing stars, constitutes a mild
concussion that could lead to memory loss, well, I'll be a fool and try
to avoid it.

Dirk "the fool"

 
 
 

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Post by The Walsh Famil » Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:01:42

I am sorry my advice caused you anguish, I was not trying to anger you.  I
hope you find relief.
Lyle

 
 
 

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Post by GonnaSka » Sat, 11 Dec 2004 03:49:02

Quote:

>I am sorry my advice caused you anguish, I was not trying to anger you.  I
>hope you find relief.

I'm thinking that calling someone "foolish" and then not predicting that they
might be "anguished" by it is perhaps a bit, um ... well ... I'm not going to
go there ...

And I'm not trying to anger you, either. Just point out that I'd have been
insulted, too, if I'd received that kind of reply when I was just trying to be
helpful.

Skating is a risky sport. Reminding people to be careful is a good thing, IMO.

Gonna Skate

 
 
 

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Post by The Walsh Famil » Sat, 11 Dec 2004 12:48:03

yep you're right, was predictable.  I'm afraid that I was overreacting to
John's anti-doctor stuff.  I regretted using the ham-handed word "foolish"
right after I posted it.  Sorry
Lyle


Quote:

>>I am sorry my advice caused you anguish, I was not trying to anger you.  I
>>hope you find relief.

> I'm thinking that calling someone "foolish" and then not predicting that
> they
> might be "anguished" by it is perhaps a bit, um ... well ... I'm not going
> to
> go there ...

> And I'm not trying to anger you, either. Just point out that I'd have been
> insulted, too, if I'd received that kind of reply when I was just trying
> to be
> helpful.

> Skating is a risky sport. Reminding people to be careful is a good thing,
> IMO.

> Gonna Skate

 
 
 

Is spinning healthy? Maybe not for some.

Post by Isiaf » Sun, 12 Dec 2004 01:07:32

Quote:
> I'm thinking that calling someone "foolish" and then not

Technically, there is a big difference between calling someone foolish and
calling a statement foolish.

Certainly there are lots of foolish comments on the internet.  Also, there are
plenty of silly comments on this newsgroup.

On one side in a good discussion everyone's sincere opinion is of value.
However, at times, one must wonder if the opinion is really sincere or
something else.

As far as doctors go, well, people rag on them, but when they are in real pain,
these same people head right to the emergency room.

Sling Skate

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