SKATERS YOU LOVE WHO DIDN'T WIN

SKATERS YOU LOVE WHO DIDN'T WIN

Post by Jun Ya » Mon, 24 Feb 1997 04:00:00


A recent discussion with other people on this ng about Gritchuk and Platov
got me thinking about how much we should weigh winning and losing in
figure skating competitions.  My opinion is that most of us have our own
personal favorites no matter how many competitions they win or lose, yet
the competition results still create huge reactions every time.  Why do
you think it matters to so many skating fans even though it never changes
their minds?

Here's some skaters I love who did not win one time or another, or most of
the times, but I don't really care because I love them, not because I
dislike their competitors:
1. Annenko and Stratenski.  I love their classical, unassuming, free
spirited style and the ease with which they move over the ice.  They may
not be the most difficult ice dancer or the most crowd-pleasing dancers,
but I enjoy their programs every time.  And I LOVE their costumes.  Great
taste, perfect with their skating style.
2. Elvis at the 94 Olympics.  OK I'm biased.  I like Elvis for his
uncompromising attitude and I'm a big fan of martial arts (limited to
watching it only).  Also it was the grace and the confidence of the way he
takes control of the ice.  I can understand the judges emphasis on basic
skating skills and so on, but winning is unimportant in my mind and I just
love his Bruce Lee Story free skate program.
3. If pro competitions count, every time I see Scott Hamilton it's always
a treat and a festivity, a riot, a mouthful of ice cream and 3 minutes
full of fun and laughter.  I don't care if Boitano or Petrenko or Kurt is
winning, and I have absolutely nothing against them.  I just enjoy Scott
Hamilton's skating the most.  I think he and his skating also promotes the
notion of enjoyment over competition.  

Do you have any favorite skaters who did not win?  I hope the skaters also
have faith in their fans that they will stick with them even if they lose
competitions.  

regards,

jun

 
 
 

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Post by NLat » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
Jun writes:

<<Do you have any favorite skaters who did not win?>>
I love to watch Rahkammo&Kokko skate even though they rarely win. I wonder
when they are going to start doing funny routines again. They seem so
serious on the ice as pros. I still like to watch them, but I miss
programs like the one where she is dressed up like a ballerina:) Also,
ditch the fake *** thing Suzanna.
Nat

 
 
 

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Post by Revjoel » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00

I love Roz Sumners and she NEVER wins.  I think she is graceful and
does other interesting skating moves so I never miss the triples.  I
think it is very gracious of her to agree to skate in these competitions
so her fans can see her so often, even though she knows she's going
to get those low scores.

I always enjoy Scott Williams, though he's not a very consistent
jumper.  I think he's got wonderful edges and does some very
interesting moves on the ice--great Russian splits and barrell
rolls.

Elaine Zayak was also so inconsistent as an amateur, watching her
was a roller coaster ride (shades of Nicole Bobek) but she always had
such a bubbling smile.  I was SO proud of her when she placed 4th
at the Nationals--what an accompishment at her age!

As mentioned before about Scott Hamilton, I'm always rooting for
him to win, but he gives a good performance even when he doesn't
have a chance.

Joelle

Scott Hamilton Fan Page - http://members.aol.com/Revjoelle/index.html.

"I've given a part of my body to every jump I've ever accomplished"
Scott Hamilton

 
 
 

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Post by Revjoel » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
Nat writes:
>I love to watch Rahkammo&Kokko skate even though they rarely win. I

wonder
when they are going to start doing funny routines again. They seem so
serious on the ice as pros. I still like to watch them, but I miss
programs like the one where she is dressed up like a ballerina:) Also,
ditch the fake *** thing Suzanna.

No kidding--I hated their Carmen.  I loved their Quickstep at the Japan
Open. I'm afraid I'm not avante gard (can't even spell it!) to appreciate
Enigma--too wierd for me.  I prefer these two when they are doing
more light hearted routines.

Also--I'd like to see more Brian Orser, win or lose.

Joelle
Scott Hamilton Fan Page - http://SportToday.org/

"I've given a part of my body to every jump I've ever accomplished"
Scott Hamilton

 
 
 

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Post by cmmcg.. » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

> Jun writes:
> <<Do you have any favorite skaters who did not win?>>
> I love to watch Rahkammo&Kokko skate even though they rarely win. I wonder
> when they are going to start doing funny routines again. They seem so
> serious on the ice as pros. I still like to watch them, but I miss
> programs like the one where she is dressed up like a ballerina:) Also,
> ditch the fake *** thing Suzanna.
> Nat

I agree with you about Rahkomo & Kokko. I like to watch them skate, but
since they do not come from Russia then they can not win.

I know Alexsei Urmanov wins events, but I am mentioning him anyway, since
he does win, but no one seems to notice at times (like he won the
Nation's Cup, and came in 2nd in Skate America and won Russia's Cup).
Many do not acknowledge him as a contender.

I like Michael Shmerkin and I would like to see him win, since he seems
like he will do anyhting to get the chance to skate.

I want to see my hero, Viktor Petrenko win. He won the Worlds and
Olympics in 1992, but prior to that he had always been runner up to Kurt,
and in the pro competitions he sometime is so close, or he chokes.
Christina

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Post by Trudi Marrapo » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Need I say?

Trudi

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Post by William Papinea » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> A recent discussion with other people on this ng about Gritchuk and Platov
> got me thinking about how much we should weigh winning and losing in
> figure skating competitions.  My opinion is that most of us have our own
> personal favorites no matter how many competitions they win or lose, yet
> the competition results still create huge reactions every time.  Why do
> you think it matters to so many skating fans even though it never changes
> their minds?

Laurent Tobel!! (sp?)

I'm 6'3, slim, and tend to feel a bit awkward on the ice.  Seeing
Laurent out
there encourages me when I start to think that I'll never look as good
or
move as fast as eveyone else.  Maybe being gawky can be used to one's
advantage -
as in Laurent's Pink Panther routine.

Elizabeth Manley - although she wins alot too....

Beillman...

 
 
 

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Post by Soapscri » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Seeing Josef Sabovchik at all these pro events (yuk), I am reminded of a
truly wonderful skater who should have beaten him out for the bronze at
Sarajevo -- whatever happened to Rudi Cerne?

 
 
 

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Post by Jennifer Rebecca Taylo » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00

i really liked midori ito (yes she won worlds when she was older, but i
really really liked her when she was young at the '88 Olympics, when there
was still joy in her skating and no pressure to win. i think*** button
said she had a 1000 watt smile that i think kinda went away after 1990
(the triple axel year)
the duschenays- the perennial second place finishers, but so innovative
and wonderful to watch
dan hollander- fun and funny guy, extremly musical great to watch ( i
loved his old barber of seville program)
tracy wilson and rob mccall- canadian dance team with a wonderful panache
and presence on the ice. i don't think they ever placed higher than third
though
jill watson and peter oppegard- they were always in synch. i loved
watching them
for you precision people:
the crystallettes senior/junior- fun, innovative choreography, and they
always look so happy, super fast, and they always finish in the top 4, but
never 1st

jennifer

 
 
 

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Post by Sara Freem » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
(Soapscribe) writes:

>Seeing Josef Sabovchik at all these pro events (yuk), I am reminded of
a
>truly wonderful skater who should have beaten him out for the bronze
at
>Sarajevo -- whatever happened to Rudi Cerne?

Janet Lynn
--
Bravo Hynninen! No one else comes near!
 
 
 

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Post by HILL JANET SW » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
>> Jun writes:
>> <<Do you have any favorite skaters who did not win?>>

Please forgive me for shouting:  JOHN MISHA PETKEVICH.  Oh, Lordy, the man
could fly!

        janet

showing her age ......

 
 
 

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Post by Finch Famil » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Rahkammo&Kokko
Denise Bielmann
Wilson&McCall
Janet Lynn
Babilonia&Gardner

and

*any* time Scott Hamilton competes I hope he wins-probably because we are
the same age (give or take a few months)

Pat

 
 
 

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Post by Jun Ya » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Joelle:
I see I can finally agree with you on something other than Scott Hamilton.
Brian Orser always beats Brian Boitano hands down in my eyes.

regards,

jun

 
 
 

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Post by Tracie Bezer » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00

: A recent discussion with other people on this ng about Gritchuk and Platov
: got me thinking about how much we should weigh winning and losing in
: figure skating competitions.  My opinion is that most of us have our own
: personal favorites no matter how many competitions they win or lose, yet
: the competition results still create huge reactions every time.  Why do
: you think it matters to so many skating fans even though it never changes
: their minds?
: (snip)
: Do you have any favorite skaters who did not win?  I hope the skaters also
: have faith in their fans that they will stick with them even if they lose
: competitions.  

I always love to watch Steven Cousins skate, and he never wins.  His
exhibitions are really fun and upbeat and his sense of humor is always
shining through.

Speaking of Cousins, has anyone heard if the UK has decided to send him or
the guy who beat him at British Nationals to Worlds?  Sorry if someone has
answered this already -- I haven't seen it anywhere.

Tracie

 
 
 

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Post by Valerie Sta » Wed, 26 Feb 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>Jun writes:
><<Do you have any favorite skaters who did not win?>>
>I love to watch Rahkammo&Kokko skate even though they rarely win. I wonder
>when they are going to start doing funny routines again. They seem so
>serious on the ice as pros. I still like to watch them, but I miss
>programs like the one where she is dressed up like a ballerina:) Also,
>ditch the fake *** thing Suzanna.
>Nat

Rory Flack Burghardt. Oksana Baiul.  I'll watch these two any time they
skate, thanks, whether they win anything ever again or not.

Scott Williams.  

Val