Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (Russian protest)

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (Russian protest)

Post by Colette Mari » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 02:33:37


Am I correct in thinking that the only possible basis for the
Russians' contention that Irina should have won the gold last
night is that Irina had a better long program than Sarah's
long program?

If so, are they insane?

Am I wrong in thinking Sarah's long program blew away all the
other long programs last night?  Is there any real argument
to be made that Irina's long was better than Sarah's long?

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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (Russian protest)

Post by Robert Diste » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 03:04:31

In article


Quote:
> Am I correct in thinking that the only possible basis for the
> Russians' contention that Irina should have won the gold last
> night is that Irina had a better long program than Sarah's
> long program?

> If so, are they insane?

> Am I wrong in thinking Sarah's long program blew away all the
> other long programs last night?  Is there any real argument
> to be made that Irina's long was better than Sarah's long?

Maybe they're retroactively whining about the SP. If Slute had been
first in the SP she'd have won the gold. But yeah, I can't believe these
clowns really think that Slute's conservative, uninspired LP was better
than Hughes'. What utter arrogance.

Bob

 
 
 

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (Russian protest)

Post by Horrig » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 03:24:41

Quote:
>Am I wrong in thinking Sarah's long program blew away all the
>other long programs last night?  Is there any real argument
>to be made that Irina's long was better than Sarah's long?

I suppose they could argue that Slutskaya should have won the short program in
which case she would have won the gold medal even after losing to Hughes in the
long program.

There does indeed seem to be a pattern of pro-North American judging--- but it
doesn't seem to be anti-Russian judging per se.  Maria Butyrskaya finished 6th
after a performance which could have been ranked much lower than it was.  (I
was reminded of Willie Mays in the 1973 World Series.)  She certainly wasn't
subjected to anti-Russian judging.

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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (Russian protest)

Post by Molly102 » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 08:27:46

Irina IMHO should have won the short.  Michelle made that mistake on the triple
flip.  That would have been the only reason she could possibly have won the
Gold.  Hughes was wonderful.  I'm glad it turned out this way.  What a treat.
 
 
 

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (Russian protest)

Post by y_p_ » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:45:20

Quote:

> Am I correct in thinking that the only possible basis for the
> Russians' contention that Irina should have won the gold last
> night is that Irina had a better long program than Sarah's
> long program?

> If so, are they insane?

> Am I wrong in thinking Sarah's long program blew away all the
> other long programs last night?  Is there any real argument
> to be made that Irina's long was better than Sarah's long?

As Ed McMahon would say to Johnny Carson, "YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!!"
(Or in your case Ma'am).

I'm sort of shocked that:

A) Slutskaya received 4 first place ordinals, 3 from Eastern European
   judges.

B) Slutskaya didn't finish 3rd, in which case, Kwan gets the gold and
   Hughes the silver.

Personally, I thought that Hughes was the most deserving of gold that
night regardless of what the other skaters did.  Of course, I don't
care for ordinals or factored placements, because it requires all
this mind blowing logic to sort out all these scenarios.  A true point
system like all other Olympic events should have been implemented years
ago.

 
 
 

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (Russian protest)

Post by Altheal » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 14:12:48

Quote:
>Maybe they're retroactively whining about the SP. If Slute had been first in

the SP she'd have won the gold. But yeah, I can't believe these  clowns really
think that Slute's conservative, uninspired LP was better
than Hughes'. What utter arrogance.>>

They don't.  They pretty much admitted on CNN tonight that they just lodged the
protest to be pains, because they're still ticked about the pairs.

I think this is a real problem.....the Russians may go out of their way from
now on not only to score Russian skaters slightly higher than the panel, but to
score U.S. skaters and Canadian skaters way lower than deserved.  
Mark Lund said on tv this morning (CNN, too, I think) that the judging was fair
last night, because all the judging issues have been resolved.  He couldn't be
more wrong.  Hughes almost lost the long program, which is absurd given her
performance relative to the others.  Ironically, by rushing to address an issue
of fairness in judging, without coming up with real, meaningful, long-term
reforms, the ISU may have actually caused more problems than they solved.

-- Kate