Compulsory dance for 4C's

Compulsory dance for 4C's

Post by capcomo » Tue, 06 Feb 2001 13:33:27


Anybody?
THANKS!
 
 
 

Compulsory dance for 4C's

Post by Sandra Loosemor » Tue, 06 Feb 2001 11:31:14

Quote:

> Anybody?
> THANKS!

Per ISU communication #1065 (available on the ISU web site), the dances
at 4Cs will be the same as at Europeans, the Westminster Waltz and the
Silver Samba.  At Worlds, they'll dance the Rhumba and Tango Romantica....
the dancers who are doing both Junior and Senior Worlds this year luck out
because the Rhumba is also one of the junior dances this season.

-Sandra

 
 
 

Compulsory dance for 4C's

Post by Tracey Sesle » Tue, 06 Feb 2001 14:52:07

Quote:


> > Anybody?
> > THANKS!

> Per ISU communication #1065 (available on the ISU web site), the dances
> at 4Cs will be the same as at Europeans, the Westminster Waltz and the
> Silver Samba.  At Worlds, they'll dance the Rhumba and Tango Romantica....
> the dancers who are doing both Junior and Senior Worlds this year luck out
> because the Rhumba is also one of the junior dances this season.

> -Sandra

One thing I've noticed in the short time I've been closely following ice dance
is that any and all dances from Gold, Junior Int'l and Senior Int'l seem to be
fair game at the Junior and Senior levels.  What I don't understand is:

1) why they call the Junior Internationals such if they're used at the senior
level.
2) why they bother putting the Golds into the mix when, from what I've seen of
the patterns, the JIs and SIs are so much more difficult.

Also, how does the ISU actually choose the dances for the year?  Do they
divide the dances into groups, and rotate them by year?  I ask because there
are at least several dances that I know haven't been competed at the senior
level over the past 2 or 3 years.

Tracey

 
 
 

Compulsory dance for 4C's

Post by Sandra Loosemor » Tue, 06 Feb 2001 21:06:57

Quote:

> One thing I've noticed in the short time I've been closely following
> ice dance is that any and all dances from Gold, Junior Int'l and
> Senior Int'l seem to be fair game at the Junior and Senior levels.

Actually, the "Gold", etc are USFSA designations which probably exist
for historical reasons more than anything else.  The ISU regulations
designate 14 possible dances for junior competition and 14 for senior,
with some overlap between the two lists.

Quote:
> Also, how does the ISU actually choose the dances for the year?  Do they
> divide the dances into groups, and rotate them by year?  I ask because there
> are at least several dances that I know haven't been competed at the senior
> level over the past 2 or 3 years.

The ISU's Ice Dance Technical Committee chooses them, but they're not
in a strict rotation.  Among other things, there's a rule that says
that the compulsory dance rhythms have to be different than the OD
rhythm(s) for the same year.  I've also heard that the TC thinks that
dances like the Kilian are too easy for seniors and has been avoiding
them for that reason, even though they're still listed among the
senior dances.

-Sandra

 
 
 

Compulsory dance for 4C's

Post by Margaret Burwe » Tue, 06 Feb 2001 23:24:47

Quote:

> The ISU's Ice Dance Technical Committee chooses them, but they're not
> in a strict rotation.  Among other things, there's a rule that says
> that the compulsory dance rhythms have to be different than the OD
> rhythm(s) for the same year.  I've also heard that the TC thinks that
> dances like the Kilian are too easy for seniors and has been avoiding
> them for that reason, even though they're still listed among the
> senior dances.

        Heaven knows why!  The Killian done by a highly ranked
international dance team is a completely different dance than the one you
see at the rink on an intermediate dance session.  One of the most
interesting competitions I ever saw had drawn the European Waltz for one
of the Novice, Junior, and Senior compulsory dances.  It was fascinating
to see how the performance of the dance changed/improved at each level of
competition.

Marg

 
 
 

Compulsory dance for 4C's

Post by orang » Tue, 06 Feb 2001 21:39:30


Quote:
> Anybody?
> THANKS!

 
 
 

Compulsory dance for 4C's

Post by orang » Wed, 07 Feb 2001 00:22:53


Quote:
> Anybody?
> THANKS!

 
 
 

Compulsory dance for 4C's

Post by janet swan hi » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:20:31

Quote:

>Could also be because it would be over in the blink of an eye, and they want
>more
>steps to be able to judge.  I think I read in the USFSA rulebook that one
>pattern
>of the Killian, at the proper tempo, should take about 10 seconds to
>complete.

Actually, it's only 8.    The USFSA rulebook says that there are four patterns
for a test (33 seconds), two patterns to solo (17 seconds) and 6 patterns (50
seconds) for competition.

janet