The "relaxed" jump

The "relaxed" jump

Post by john » Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:03:24


After about 3 years of trying this, it is finally beginning to
happen. I am able to do my jumps with smooth easy
timing. I was beginning to think it impossible, but nope ..
it works. Only thing is this. The "relaxed" jump is not
a beginner jump. It is the result of really understanding
the technique of the jump .. being properly rested and
warmed up so my timing is right on .. and having well
prepared equipment on properly surfaced ice. The
relaxed jump is not done with snap, nor is it done with
power. It is smooth and properly timed from beginning
to end. It feels effortless, and it actually works like
your mind visualizes it. When one of your jumps becomes
an R-jump, you will pretty much never miss it again.
Right now, my true R-jumps are loop, waltz, and t-loop.
I can generate R-jumps in flip, but I still have periods
of flinching and rushing components of the jump. I'm
getting there with the Sal, but I know that my Sal is
still in technique development because I'm having to
focus on the vertical lift. I'm also convinced that there
are elite skaters who have never done an R-jump in
their life. I think the R-jump might even be an unknown
factor in coaching .. or even impossible to coach since
it is the result of many many years of work with nothing
more than playing in mind. The R-jump is a guru jump.

johns

 
 
 

The "relaxed" jump

Post by The Walsh Famil » Mon, 01 Nov 2004 04:10:41

a week ago this would have been gibberish to me but I'm finally starting to
feel this on my toe loop.  I can still mess it up and have trouble combining
more than 2 in a row but they are finally starting to float into the air
without me really having to JUMP anymore.  Occasionally I see this on my
flip but I still jump too soon and pogoflip when I don't pull the free leg
hard enough.
Lyle


Quote:
> After about 3 years of trying this, it is finally beginning to
> happen. I am able to do my jumps with smooth easy
> timing. I was beginning to think it impossible, but nope ..
> it works. Only thing is this. The "relaxed" jump is not
> a beginner jump. It is the result of really understanding
> the technique of the jump .. being properly rested and
> warmed up so my timing is right on .. and having well
> prepared equipment on properly surfaced ice. The
> relaxed jump is not done with snap, nor is it done with
> power. It is smooth and properly timed from beginning
> to end. It feels effortless, and it actually works like
> your mind visualizes it. When one of your jumps becomes
> an R-jump, you will pretty much never miss it again.
> Right now, my true R-jumps are loop, waltz, and t-loop.
> I can generate R-jumps in flip, but I still have periods
> of flinching and rushing components of the jump. I'm
> getting there with the Sal, but I know that my Sal is
> still in technique development because I'm having to
> focus on the vertical lift. I'm also convinced that there
> are elite skaters who have never done an R-jump in
> their life. I think the R-jump might even be an unknown
> factor in coaching .. or even impossible to coach since
> it is the result of many many years of work with nothing
> more than playing in mind. The R-jump is a guru jump.

> johns


 
 
 

The "relaxed" jump

Post by e-skat » Tue, 02 Nov 2004 07:41:54

Quote:

> After about 3 years of trying this, it is finally beginning to
> happen. I am able to do my jumps with smooth easy
> timing. The "relaxed" jump is not
> a beginner jump. It is the result of really understanding
> the technique of the jump

Intersting.  I had much fun lately playing with the toe loop.  I've
been going "low and slow" on only a few jumps, while healing groin
injury.  First jumps I did in three weeks recently.  Toe loop has all
of a sudden become almost "effortless".  Yeah, low and slow right now,
but correct, thinking about it and looking at ice print after the
fact.  It pops right up, and I find I am not thinking about it, just
feeling it as it happens.  Seems the key is, don't do jumps for almost
a month, then your mind is fresh and open to playing and feeling the
mechanics without all the analysis.

Quote:
> When one of your jumps becomes
> an R-jump, you will pretty much never miss it again.
> Right now, my true R-jumps are loop, waltz, and t-loop.
> I can generate R-jumps in flip, but I still have periods
> of flinching and rushing components of the jump.

Mine are waltz, salchow, almost the loop.  Getting there with toe
loop.  Flip might be a while.

I'm also convinced that there

Quote:
> are elite skaters who have never done an R-jump in
> their life.
> johns

I don't know enough about skating to think about this one.