SPOILER - Worlds Compulsory Dance 1 Results

SPOILER - Worlds Compulsory Dance 1 Results

Post by Chad Beck » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 13:15:19


1 Irina LOBACHEVA / Ilia AVERBUKH  RUS
2 Shae-Lynn BOURNE / Victor KRAATZ  CAN
3 Margarita DROBIAZKO / Povilas VANAGAS  LTU
4 Galit CHAIT / Sergei SAKHNOVSKI  ISR
5 Albena DENKOVA / Maxim STAVIYSKI  BUL
6 Elena GRUSHINA / Ruslan GONCHAROV  UKR
7 Kati WINKLER / Rene LOHSE  GER
8 Tatiana NAVKA / Roman KOSTOMAROV  RUS
9 Naomi LANG / Peter TCHERNYSHEV  USA
10 Sylwia NOWAK / Sebastian KOLASINSKI  POL
11 Marie-France DUBREUIL / Patrice LAUZON  CAN
12 Marika HUMPHREYS / Vitali BARANOV  GBR
13 Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO  USA
14 Federica FAIELLA / Massimo SCALI  ITA
15 Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER  FRA
16 Kristin FRASER / Igor LUKANIN  AZE
17 Alia OUABDELSSELAM / Benjamin DELMAS  FRA
18 Stephanie RAUER / Thomas RAUER  GER
19 Veronika MORAVKOVA / Jiri PROCHAZKA  CZE
20 Weina ZHANG / Xianming CAO  CHN
21 Zita GEBORA / Andras VISONTAI  HUN
22 Alla BEKNAZAROVA / Yuri KOCHERZHENKO  UKR
23 Valentina ANSELMI / Fabrizio PEDRAZZINI  ITA
23 Tae-Hwa YANG / Chuen-Gun LEE  KOR
25 Jessica HUOT / Juha VALKAMA  FIN
26 Rie ARIKAWA / Kenji MIYAMOTO  JPN
27 Anna MOSENKOVA / Sergei SYCHYOV  EST
28 Natalie BUCK / Trent NELSON-BOND  AUS

 
 
 

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Post by michael farri » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:23:55

Note: If you have SPOILER in the head, it's a good idea to leave
some spoiler space, like this

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Post by michael farri » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:27:30

Quote:


> 1(spoilers deleted)

I have a new pool for Ice Dancing, after the 1rst compulsary, we
can guess that the first X number of skaters won't change order
thru the four stages of the competition. I'll pick 7. In other
words, I'll guess the first seven places will remain the same but
that team number 8 will move down.

-michael farris (who suspects someone else has thought up this
game before)

 
 
 

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Post by MyRomanHolid » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 15:36:53

But if the poster has SPOILER in the subject, isn't it obvious that if you
*open* the thread, it will contain a spoiler???

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>Note: If you have SPOILER in the head, it's a good idea to leave some spoiler

space, like this

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okay?>

 
 
 

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Post by michael farri » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:50:25

Quote:

> But if the poster has SPOILER in the subject, isn't it obvious that if you
> *open* the thread, it will contain a spoiler???

The way some news readers work, you can't always choose whether or not to open a
thread or a particular message, when I open this group, the oldest unread message
is automatically opened if I ask for new messages, the oldest 'new' message is
automatically opened. Other newsreaders work in other ways.

I don't care for myself, I _always_ read spoilers (I enjoy watching more if I know
what's happened so I can pay more attention to the details of the performance).
But some people do care, so I think it's a courtesy to them to put some spoiler
space in.

-michael farris

 
 
 

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Post by janet swan hi » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:19:40

Quote:

>But if the poster has SPOILER in the subject, isn't it obvious that if you
>*open* the thread, it will contain a spoiler???

Not every newsreader has messages threaded.   In such readers (such as the one
available to me through work, through which I never post, but sometimes read),
messages are displayed in the order received, and the messages themselves are
displayed, already open, one after the other.  There is no way to check the
threads OR messages out in advance.  

In other newsreaders (such as the one I use at home), the messages may be
threaded, but the more convenient/efficient way to display messages involves
going directly from the last message in one thread to the first message in the
last.   In this case, the messages are displayed, already open .... without
taking the four intermediate steps that would be necessary every time a thread
was completed to check to see if by chance each next thread contained the word
"spoiler" in the header.    And, by the way, in this newsreader, the threading
is not well done, so that there may be 12 or more different "fragments" of a
single thread, each of which would require the same extraneous steps to "check
out in advance.

So ...... if you don't want to leave a LOT of spoiler space, a middle ground
might be to leave just a few lines, but with SPOILERS BELOW (or some such
phrase) in the text of the message itself.

      janet
janet

 
 
 

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Post by Darby L. Wiggin » Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:36:14

I don't follow the dance teams much but I am wondering if this year, due
to the "heavyweights" retiring or opting out, what are the chances that
we, the US could have 2 teams in the top 10? Does anyone think that L&T
can move up a few spaces and B&A can make top 10? Any thoughts. I don't
recognize some of he other names in 5-13 place.

Other than great success, what would that mean for USA dancing? would we
be able to send 3 teams to worlds next year??

Thanks
Darby

Quote:

> 1 Irina LOBACHEVA / Ilia AVERBUKH  RUS
> 2 Shae-Lynn BOURNE / Victor KRAATZ  CAN
> 3 Margarita DROBIAZKO / Povilas VANAGAS  LTU
> 4 Galit CHAIT / Sergei SAKHNOVSKI  ISR
> 5 Albena DENKOVA / Maxim STAVIYSKI  BUL
> 6 Elena GRUSHINA / Ruslan GONCHAROV  UKR
> 7 Kati WINKLER / Rene LOHSE  GER
> 8 Tatiana NAVKA / Roman KOSTOMAROV  RUS
> 9 Naomi LANG / Peter TCHERNYSHEV  USA
> 10 Sylwia NOWAK / Sebastian KOLASINSKI  POL
> 11 Marie-France DUBREUIL / Patrice LAUZON  CAN
> 12 Marika HUMPHREYS / Vitali BARANOV  GBR
> 13 Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO  USA
> 14 Federica FAIELLA / Massimo SCALI  ITA
> 15 Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER  FRA
> 16 Kristin FRASER / Igor LUKANIN  AZE
> 17 Alia OUABDELSSELAM / Benjamin DELMAS  FRA
> 18 Stephanie RAUER / Thomas RAUER  GER
> 19 Veronika MORAVKOVA / Jiri PROCHAZKA  CZE
> 20 Weina ZHANG / Xianming CAO  CHN
> 21 Zita GEBORA / Andras VISONTAI  HUN
> 22 Alla BEKNAZAROVA / Yuri KOCHERZHENKO  UKR
> 23 Valentina ANSELMI / Fabrizio PEDRAZZINI  ITA
> 23 Tae-Hwa YANG / Chuen-Gun LEE  KOR
> 25 Jessica HUOT / Juha VALKAMA  FIN
> 26 Rie ARIKAWA / Kenji MIYAMOTO  JPN
> 27 Anna MOSENKOVA / Sergei SYCHYOV  EST
> 28 Natalie BUCK / Trent NELSON-BOND  AUS

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Post by Robert Diste » Thu, 21 Mar 2002 02:26:48



Quote:


> > 1(spoilers deleted)

> I have a new pool for Ice Dancing, after the 1rst compulsary, we
> can guess that the first X number of skaters won't change order
> thru the four stages of the competition. I'll pick 7. In other
> words, I'll guess the first seven places will remain the same but
> that team number 8 will move down.

> -michael farris (who suspects someone else has thought up this
> game before)

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that 1-10 stay the same for the whole
competition, but 11 and 12 will swap places.

Bob

 
 
 

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Post by QuanYi » Thu, 21 Mar 2002 02:48:00

If I look at the judges for pairs I'll have to go with 1-8 stay the same 9 and
10 swap places.

Melinda

Quote:
>I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that 1-10 stay the same for the whole
>competition, but 11 and 12 will swap places.

 
 
 

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Post by Ellyn Kestnba » Thu, 21 Mar 2002 07:05:13


Quote:
> I don't follow the dance teams much but I am wondering if this year, due
> to the "heavyweights" retiring or opting out, what are the chances that
> we, the US could have 2 teams in the top 10? Does anyone think that L&T
> can move up a few spaces and B&A can make top 10? Any thoughts. I don't
> recognize some of he other names in 5-13 place.

Except for Humphreys&Baranov, all those teams in 5-13 places have been
in the top 10 at Worlds at least once before, in deeper fields. All
the teams currently ahead of Lang & Tchernyshev have beaten them
before either this season, in the previous two or three seasons, or
both. They are definitely competitive with L&Tch. The fact that US
networks tend not to show the non-American teams below 5th place very
often doesn't mean that these teams are not just as well established
and well respected by the international skating community as the
Americans are -- in some cases moreso.

Quote:
> Other than great success, what would that mean for USA dancing? would we
> be able to send 3 teams to worlds next year??

For three teams, the two teams this year would have to place such that
their placements add up to no more than 13 -- e.g., 6th and 7th, 5th
and 8th, etc. It's not going to happen this year. IF both teams make
improvements for next season (remember they both got a slow start this
season because of injury, with L&Tch missing the whole Grand Prix), IF
a few of the teams ahead of them retire, and IF the judging panels
drawn for next year's Worlds (which will be in the US, so they could
benefit from crowd support as well) happen to include majorities of
judges who favor their strengths over those of their rivals, maybe
they'll manage next year to earn three for 2004.

In addition, though, Delobel & Schoenfelder are another youngish team
on the rise who will probably be French champions next year with
Anissina/Peizerat gone. They also lost time to injury this season and
apparently they had two falls in the first compulsory which is why
they're so low on this list -- they will quite likely pull ahead of
B&A before this competition is over and could continue to rank ahead
of them next season. If Russia gets three spots for next year (as
looks likely from the current standings), Romaniuta & Barantsev (2000
and 2001 Jr. World champions) will probably be at Worlds next year --
B&A have never beaten them yet either.

No harm in wishful thinking, but be aware that there are a lot of
"ifs" that would be necessary for the American teams to place as high
as you'd like them to.

-Ellyn

 
 
 

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Post by Robert Diste » Fri, 22 Mar 2002 03:57:41



Quote:



> > > 1(spoilers deleted)

> > I have a new pool for Ice Dancing, after the 1rst compulsary, we
> > can guess that the first X number of skaters won't change order
> > thru the four stages of the competition. I'll pick 7. In other
> > words, I'll guess the first seven places will remain the same but
> > that team number 8 will move down.

> > -michael farris (who suspects someone else has thought up this
> > game before)

> I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that 1-10 stay the same for the whole
> competition, but 11 and 12 will swap places.

Looks like I overreached. Drat those Canadians for falling on the first
dance and causing a place-swap. :( OTOH, it's always exciting to see a
place-swap between the set-pattern dances! ;)

Bob