Chris Yu, why won't you answer your mail?

Chris Yu, why won't you answer your mail?

Post by Ohthepr » Sun, 07 Jun 1998 04:00:00


We worked out a special price for the crossfire airsystem for you after you
mention your interest in the airsystem..we gave you the total and you stated
that you wanted the airsystem and would be mailing out the payment...we haven't
seen the payment and you won't answer your e mail from us...please let us know
one way or another...are you interested or just shopping around..

thank you

Predator Paintball Store

 
 
 

Chris Yu, why won't you answer your mail?

Post by D.G. Devi » Sun, 07 Jun 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
> We worked out a special price for the crossfire airsystem for you after
you
> mention your interest in the airsystem..we gave you the total and you
stated
> that you wanted the airsystem and would be mailing out the payment...we
haven't
> seen the payment and you won't answer your e mail from us...please let us
know
> one way or another...are you interested or just shopping around..

> thank you

> Predator Paintball Store

Am I the only one here who thinks that messages from businesses to their
customers are inappropriate in this newsgroup?  With all the venues
available to paintball businesses for advertising and communication,
wouldn't it be nice if they could leave this newsgroup for non-profit
purposes?

 
 
 

Chris Yu, why won't you answer your mail?

Post by chr.. » Sun, 07 Jun 1998 04:00:00

I agree to a point.

I run a paintball Business, but most of my site is dedicated to the
sport not the business. I use the site to comunicate with all the
players in our local area.

How would I then distinguish

Cheers
Chris


Quote:


>> We worked out a special price for the crossfire airsystem for you after
>you
>> mention your interest in the airsystem..we gave you the total and you
>stated
>> that you wanted the airsystem and would be mailing out the payment...we
>haven't
>> seen the payment and you won't answer your e mail from us...please let us
>know
>> one way or another...are you interested or just shopping around..

>> thank you

>> Predator Paintball Store

>Am I the only one here who thinks that messages from businesses to their
>customers are inappropriate in this newsgroup?  With all the venues
>available to paintball businesses for advertising and communication,
>wouldn't it be nice if they could leave this newsgroup for non-profit
>purposes?

to e-mail me Remove nospam.co.za and insert datapro.co.za
What a crappy way to live

 
 
 

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Post by Rick Bow » Sun, 07 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>I agree to a point.

>I run a paintball Business, but most of my site is dedicated to the
>sport not the business. I use the site to comunicate with all the
>players in our local area.

>How would I then distinguish

>Cheers
>Chris

Chris, when shooting the breeze with someone, proceed as normal.
When dealing as a business, put AD:(Then the subject title)
Same for all of the FS: & WTB: posts.

Rick "Tobacco" Bowen
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Chris Yu, why won't you answer your mail?

Post by D.G. Devi » Sun, 07 Jun 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
> I agree to a point.

> I run a paintball Business, but most of my site is dedicated to the
> sport not the business. I use the site to comunicate with all the
> players in our local area.

> How would I then distinguish

> Cheers
> Chris



If you post something like "We are having a tournament next month" or "We
are a new dealer, give us a call to receive our catalog," or if you want to
give us the address for your web site, fine, nobody would object to that,
quite the contrary.  But in this case we have seen a steady stream of
blatant adverti***ts from this one dealer.  If he wants to yack about
paintball, great, he is more than welcome.  But if his real purpose here is
just to sell stuff, then let him take out an ad in APG like everybody else,
not use a newsgroup intended as a public forum for discussion of this sport
to sneak in free ads, much less clutter the place up with messages to
specific customers.  A couple of years ago this kind of spam would get him
flamed to a crisp; it was in bad taste then and it is no more appropriate
now.
 
 
 

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Post by Aaron Gillu » Sun, 07 Jun 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

>If you post something like "We are having a tournament next month" or "We
>are a new dealer, give us a call to receive our catalog," or if you want to
>give us the address for your web site, fine, nobody would object to that,
>quite the contrary.  But in this case we have seen a steady stream of
>blatant adverti***ts from this one dealer.  If he wants to yack about
>paintball, great, he is more than welcome.  But if his real purpose here is
>just to sell stuff, then let him take out an ad in APG like everybody else,
>not use a newsgroup intended as a public forum for discussion of this sport
>to sneak in free ads, much less clutter the place up with messages to
>specific customers.  A couple of years ago this kind of spam would get him
>flamed to a crisp; it was in bad taste then and it is no more appropriate
>now.

I agree wholeheartedly. The difference between the group 2 years ago (or
more) and now is that the percentage of newbies is going up. Way up.

Local shops are out. Mail order from the cheapest place possible is in.

I've posted regarding my dislike of these commercial postings several times,
and I tend to get flame mail from, well let's say, the maturity challenged.
These people want these posts. They love them. They save them from paying $5
for the APG catalog every month.

These people must not remember when this forum was actually educational. For
those who don't remember or were not a part of this group, industry folk
used to post here. Oh yes. Sounds nuts when you look at where we've come,
doesn't it? Bob Long....Glenn Palmer....Zander of the Ironmen....etc.
Pro-players, technology pioneers, magazine editors, league organizers, and
the list goes on. All of these people were in the position to spam the
newsgroup with commercial posts and/or plugs for their sponsors. NONE DID.
By their actions, they gained respect.

Sadly, these people are no longer regular posters to our forum. Oh, I'm sure
they're still out there. Listening. Lurking. Shaking their heads at the mess
this has become.

Do you want them back? Would you enjoy Glenn Palmer discussing barrel
theory, or Bob Long speaking of winning tourney tactics? I would, and if you
wouldn't you can only be ignorant.

We can get them back. *They* are waiting for *us*.

Post intelligently.

Show respect for your fellow paintballer.

Realize that you have a lot to learn.

Read past articles regarding your current question.

If industry people *do* post. Don't spam them. Respect their space. Let them
offer their advice and help. They don't owe it to us.

Lurk before you post.

Well, this tirade has gone on long enough. I hope this has sparked some
thinking in our collective.

As always, open debate is welcome.

Aaron Gillum

Spam Email will result in one hell of a mail bombing.

 
 
 

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Post by Stefano A Maranza » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

>Chris, when shooting the breeze with someone, proceed as normal.
>When dealing as a business, put AD:(Then the subject title)
>Same for all of the FS: & WTB: posts.

Actually, I think that Oh "the pro" was the one that initiated this
conversation by posting the ad.  Chris merely replied to it stating why he
hasn't pursued buying any more stuff from Oh on the net for various
reasons that I think are valid.  I have seen the Sterling that Oh sold
him, and I have to say that he got ripped!

Steve
--

 
 
 

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Post by Kennedy Ho » Tue, 09 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> Am I the only one here who thinks that messages from businesses to their
> customers are inappropriate in this newsgroup?  With all the venues
> available to paintball businesses for advertising and communication,
> wouldn't it be nice if they could leave this newsgroup for non-profit
> purposes?

I don't know.  While the content of the message may be a bit too
detailed, if you can't get any reply from the e-mail route, the only
other place would be this newsgroup.  It'd be better if it was a shorter
message, though.  No point it airing the whole story.

Kennedy

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