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by **David B. Roger** » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I just bought a Spyder SE, and I've noticed that it chops almost every other
ball I shoot. My friend said I should get my spring clipped.. Plz give me
some advice, help, etc..

Thanks

by **ALPbe** » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00

polish your barrel inside and out. does it break inside the gun? if so it's
probably something with the spring.

Quote:

> I just bought a Spyder SE, and I've noticed that it chops almost every
other
> ball I shoot. My friend said I should get my spring clipped.. Plz give me
> some advice, help, etc..

> Thanks

by **Subtleplagu** » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Have you done anything to the gun since you got it?? Taken it apart,
lubed it?? Added any mods??

Quote:

> I just bought a Spyder SE, and I've noticed that it chops almost every
other
> ball I shoot. My friend said I should get my spring clipped.. Plz give me
> some advice, help, etc..

> Thanks

by **Billy Goodm** » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>polish your barrel inside and out. does it break inside the gun? if so it's
>probably something with the spring.

>> I just bought a Spyder SE, and I've noticed that it chops almost every
>other
>> ball I shoot. My friend said I should get my spring clipped.. Plz give me
>> some advice, help, etc..

>> Thanks

What spring are you guys talking about?? I'm going to take a wild guess that
niehter of you are real familiar with the operation of this gun - I apologize
in advance if that's not the case. There are only 4 springs in the whole gun
(main, valve, and 2 in the trigger assembly) and none of them should have any
effect on chopping balls, unless you're velocity is simply WAY too high. In
that case I suggest you chrono the gun to determine if that's the (unlikely)
problem. If the velocity is too high and you can't turn the adjuster out any
further, then you can clip the main spring (one ring at a time then test) to
solve that problem, but DO NOT do that unless you have a high velocity problem.
If you're gun is shooting normal velocity, then clipping the main spring will
simply weaken your shots, which may result in fewer breaks but will not solve
the real problem.

For a more likely solution to the chopping problem, check these things - make
sure the barrel is screwed in tight - make sure the powerfeed block is rotated
all of the way where it should be and not impeding the progress of the balls -
check the top of the bolt for a sharp edge or rough spots - check to make sure
the ball detent is functioning properly - make sure you are not using cruddy
paint.

Billy Goodman
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by **woofda** » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>polish your barrel inside and out. does it break inside the gun

I wouldn't mess wih the inside finish, what kinda paint you using, your
mainspring may be too taut or somethin

WoofDawg
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by **Mike** » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00

The only cause of a spyder chopping balls is the ball detent,
something with the feeder or hopper, nothing else mechanically should
cause it to shop balls. Most Spyders need to get their springs
clipped, they shoot at a velocity of over 320+. Maybe you could be a
little more graphic in your detail of your definition of "chop"

On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:55:47 GMT, "David B. Rogers"

Quote:

>I just bought a Spyder SE, and I've noticed that it chops almost every other
>ball I shoot. My friend said I should get my spring clipped.. Plz give me
>some advice, help, etc..

>Thanks

by **paintballroll** » Sat, 18 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> I just bought a Spyder SE, and I've noticed that it chops almost
every other
> ball I shoot. My friend said I should get my spring clipped.. Plz
give me
> some advice, help, etc..

> Thanks

i have a spyder TL plus, and i have occasionally have had the infamous
"spyder ball chop" problem. one or another of these seem to work for me:
1: clean the gun and DRY it. and make sure you don't miss the inside of
the powerfeed.
2: make sure the anti-double feed nub is in there.
3: pulling out the powerfeed plug just a tiny bit.
4: make sure the gun & powerfeed is clean & DRY.
5: make sure your paint is clean & dry.
6: make sure the gun & powerfeed is clean & DRY.

not trying to be sarcastic, but this has worked for me.
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by **Godmod** » Sat, 18 Dec 1999 04:00:00

whats is shooting over the chrono? make sure it under 300 before you do
anything.

Quote:

> Have you done anything to the gun since you got it?? Taken it apart,
> lubed it?? Added any mods??

> > I just bought a Spyder SE, and I've noticed that it chops almost every
> other
> > ball I shoot. My friend said I should get my spring clipped.. Plz give
me
> > some advice, help, etc..

> > Thanks

by **Alpha-Fligh** » Sat, 18 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I heard the same complaint over the SE model.

I heard it is a factory bug

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> I just bought a Spyder SE, and I've noticed that it chops almost every other
> ball I shoot. My friend said I should get my spring clipped.. Plz give me
> some advice, help, etc..

> Thanks

by **Robert J Mitchel** » Sat, 18 Dec 1999 04:00:00

A friend of mine bought an SE maybe 6 months back and it worked great for
him.

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Quote:

> I heard the same complaint over the SE model.

> I heard it is a factory bug

> > I just bought a Spyder SE, and I've noticed that it chops almost every
other
> > ball I shoot. My friend said I should get my spring clipped.. Plz give
me
> > some advice, help, etc..

> > Thanks

by **SDY1** » Sun, 19 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>I wouldn't mess wih the inside finish, what kinda paint you using, your
>mainspring may be too taut or somethin

Why? The finish on all kingman barrels suck anyway lol

by **David B. Roger** » Mon, 20 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I went out and played today, and only got one ball-break out of 500.. I took
my gun apart the day before and cleaned the bolt up real good (it was
covered in *** piant).. I cant believe how great it is now, like a whole
new gun.. thanks for all of you guys advice.

Jon

Quote:

> The only cause of a spyder chopping balls is the ball detent,
> something with the feeder or hopper, nothing else mechanically should
> cause it to shop balls. Most Spyders need to get their springs
> clipped, they shoot at a velocity of over 320+. Maybe you could be a
> little more graphic in your detail of your definition of "chop"

> On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:55:47 GMT, "David B. Rogers"

> >I just bought a Spyder SE, and I've noticed that it chops almost every
other
> >ball I shoot. My friend said I should get my spring clipped.. Plz give
me
> >some advice, help, etc..

> >Thanks

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