RainMaker 98 vs. RainMaker 99?

RainMaker 98 vs. RainMaker 99?

Post by The Pulse Proph » Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:00:00


Hi,

As of right now, I'm on the look out for a new toy.
Preferable I was looking for an electro gun that
was not to expensive and the Rainmaker series
fit my criteria.  I'm thinking of getting a Rainmaker
but what I need to know is, what are the main
differences between the 98 version and 99s?
Other than asthetics(spelling?) whats different?
Please no BE sucks this and that and no get an
alternate E-Gun instead. :-)  I'm just interested in
the Rainmakers.  Do the Rainmakers come
with a S/F board?  Is the S/F switch on the
INSIDE of the grips or is it on the outside
like on a Shocker SF?

Preferably if you have one or experienced using
one please reply via email/newsgroup.

Once again, NO don't get it cuz BE sucks this
and that.  I do not want to hear it.  

Thank you.

The Pulse Prophet

 
 
 

RainMaker 98 vs. RainMaker 99?

Post by chris william » Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:00:00

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Quote:
> Hi,

> As of right now, I'm on the look out for a new toy.
> Preferable I was looking for an electro gun that
> was not to expensive and the Rainmaker series
> fit my criteria.  I'm thinking of getting a Rainmaker
> but what I need to know is, what are the main
> differences between the 98 version and 99s?
> Other than asthetics(spelling?) whats different?
> Please no BE sucks this and that and no get an
> alternate E-Gun instead. :-)  I'm just interested in
> the Rainmakers.  Do the Rainmakers come
> with a S/F board?  Is the S/F switch on the
> INSIDE of the grips or is it on the outside
> like on a Shocker SF?

> Preferably if you have one or experienced using
> one please reply via email/newsgroup.

> Once again, NO don't get it cuz BE sucks this
> and that.  I do not want to hear it.

> Thank you.

> The Pulse Prophet


 
 
 

RainMaker 98 vs. RainMaker 99?

Post by Ravi Chop » Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>Hi,

>As of right now, I'm on the look out for a new toy.
>Preferable I was looking for an electro gun that
>was not to expensive and the Rainmaker series
>fit my criteria.  I'm thinking of getting a Rainmaker
>but what I need to know is, what are the main
>differences between the 98 version and 99s?
>Other than asthetics(spelling?) whats different?
>Please no BE sucks this and that and no get an
>alternate E-Gun instead. :-)  I'm just interested in
>the Rainmakers.  Do the Rainmakers come
>with a S/F board?  Is the S/F switch on the
>INSIDE of the grips or is it on the outside
>like on a Shocker SF?

>Preferably if you have one or experienced using
>one please reply via email/newsgroup.

>Once again, NO don't get it cuz BE sucks this
>and that.  I do not want to hear it.  

>Thank you.

>The Pulse Prophet

New things in the '99 Rainmaker:
1) New barrel: Jacko Infinity, though they aren't letting on about it -
it's a superb barrel. 0.686" ID, so you may want to get something bigger
as well.
2) New board with s/f switch and ROF adjustment inside the grip frame
(must remove grips to adjust).
3) New shroud - smaller, Autococker like, but still ugly.
4) Operates off a 9V batter now.
5) Automatic sleep mode after 5-minutes of inactivity - preserves battery
life. There is no on-off switch. You must use the safety. Automatically
turns on when the trigger is pulled.
6) High pressure hose from bottom-line to reg rather than Micro-line.

Weird things about the Rainmaker:
1) electric 3-way is zip-tied to the ram.
2) battery is zip-tied to the ram also (they're planning on adding a 9V
battery clip in the near future).
3) Hole in front of trigger just barely too small, and plate just barely
improperly shaped to allow installment of a 'mag vertical ASA. Drill the
hole out bigger to allow vertical installation.
4) Can only be field stripped when gassed up.
5) Funky delay (tiny but noticeable) between trigger pull and firing. This
has to do with how the 'gun works (clever) and will be fully described in
the article. For those in the know, think autotrigger NelSpot.

good luck

--
-Ravi Chopra

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RainMaker 98 vs. RainMaker 99?

Post by miscreant_x.. » Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Ravi, there are some corrections here...

Quote:
> 1) New barrel: Jacko Infinity, though they aren't letting on about it -
> it's a superb barrel. 0.686" ID, so you may want to get something bigger
> as well.

* The new barrel is not a Jacko.  They don't even look the same next to each
other, and they are NOT .686.  I know the company that made/makes these
barrels for BE, they used to make several alum parts for me.  They are medium
bore, .689 - .690 as measured, and production engineers (Phil Sis as well)
says they are drawn in ay .691, not far from the measurement marks.

Quote:
> 4) Can only be field stripped when gassed up.

* Sometimes. Sometimes the bolt seats in the rearward position, sometimes it
doesn't.

Quote:
> 5) Funky delay (tiny but noticeable) between trigger pull and firing. This
> has to do with how the 'gun works (clever) and will be fully described in
> the article. For those in the know, think autotrigger NelSpot.

* Due to the flex in the thin and long lever used in the lever switch.  Makes
the trigger pull vague, with noticable pre and post activation travel.  Simply
reverting back to the old push button switch eleviates this problem.

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RainMaker 98 vs. RainMaker 99?

Post by miscre.. » Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
> 1) New barrel: Jacko Infinity, though they aren't letting on about it -
> it's a superb barrel. 0.686" ID, so you may want to get something bigger
> as well.

* The new barrel is not a Jacko.  This myth needs to die.  I know the company
that produced/produces the barrels (BE was planning on bringing the
production in house), because they have done several products for me in the
past, and they are not jacko.  If you put both barrels up next to each other
there are many differences.  Also, the bore is .689 - .690, measured in at
that, with the production engineer (and Phil himself) stating that the
barrels are dialed in at .691 target.  The barrels are not .686.

Quote:
> 4) Can only be field stripped when gassed up.

* Sometimes.  It depends on where the bolt resets when you gas-down.
Sometimes it's back, sometimes it's forward.  Becareful how you state it
here, I would hate to have someone trying to field strip their reg with the
gun gassed up!

Quote:
> 5) Funky delay (tiny but noticeable) between trigger pull and firing. This
> has to do with how the 'gun works (clever) and will be fully described in
> the article. For those in the know, think autotrigger NelSpot.

* Due to the flex of the thin and long lever.  Makes the trigger very vague
especially under high ROF.  Reverting back to the old push button switch cures
this problem.

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RainMaker 98 vs. RainMaker 99?

Post by Ravi Chop » Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>> 1) New barrel: Jacko Infinity, though they aren't letting on about it -
>> it's a superb barrel. 0.686" ID, so you may want to get something bigger
>> as well.

>* The new barrel is not a Jacko.  This myth needs to die.  I know the company
>that produced/produces the barrels (BE was planning on bringing the
>production in house), because they have done several products for me in the
>past, and they are not jacko.  If you put both barrels up next to each other
>there are many differences.  Also, the bore is .689 - .690, measured in at
>that, with the production engineer (and Phil himself) stating that the
>barrels are dialed in at .691 target.  The barrels are not .686.

Well, OK, it may not be a Jacko, but it's a terrific rip-off. The
cosmetics are almost identical, the length is the same, the porting is
exactly the same, the step about half-way down the barrel is at the exact
same position as in the Jacko.

Barrel companies rip off each other's designs all the time, but this is
simply the most complete knock-off that I've seen. If they don't want it
to be called a Jacko, they should have made it look a lot different.

Either way, it's a decent shooting barrel.

Quote:
>> 4) Can only be field stripped when gassed up.

>* Sometimes.  It depends on where the bolt resets when you gas-down.
>Sometimes it's back, sometimes it's forward.  Becareful how you state it
>here, I would hate to have someone trying to field strip their reg with the
>gun gassed up!

Good point.

Quote:
>> 5) Funky delay (tiny but noticeable) between trigger pull and firing. This
>> has to do with how the 'gun works (clever) and will be fully described in
>> the article. For those in the know, think autotrigger NelSpot.

>* Due to the flex of the thin and long lever.  Makes the trigger very vague
>especially under high ROF.  Reverting back to the old push button switch cures
>this problem.

Actually, I'm talking about a delay after the switch has been tripped.
It's due to the fact that the ram has to come forward to release the
hammer. The delay is similar to what you'd feel if your Autococker fired
when the back-block came back rather than when the sear released.

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-Ravi Chopra

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RainMaker 98 vs. RainMaker 99?

Post by Edward Ka » Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:00:00

: 5) Funky delay (tiny but noticeable) between trigger pull and firing. This
: has to do with how the 'gun works (clever) and will be fully described in
: the article. For those in the know, think autotrigger NelSpot.

        It's funny, but there was a rogue mod for the sterlings a few
years back that did just what the rainmaker did. A ram is worked via a
4-way for a trigger, which then***ed the gun. It was an open bolt
design that also used the autotrigger to fire.

                                                                -Edward

 
 
 

RainMaker 98 vs. RainMaker 99?

Post by Ravi Chop » Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:00:00


Quote:


>: 5) Funky delay (tiny but noticeable) between trigger pull and firing. This
>: has to do with how the 'gun works (clever) and will be fully described in
>: the article. For those in the know, think autotrigger NelSpot.

>        It's funny, but there was a rogue mod for the sterlings a few
>years back that did just what the rainmaker did. A ram is worked via a
>4-way for a trigger, which then***ed the gun. It was an open bolt
>design that also used the autotrigger to fire.

>                                                                -Edward

It's got me thinking about trying something similar with a Phantom or
other similar 'gun now. It's a neat idea.

--
-Ravi Chopra

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