VL-2000 or VL-2000 Shredder?

VL-2000 or VL-2000 Shredder?

Post by Brent Chamber » Sat, 19 Apr 1997 04:00:00


Is there a major difference in these two loaders besides the price?  I know
the Shredder has an 18V motor, but does it have much better performance?
Is it faster?  Thanks for any info.  E-mail if you have the time.

Brent

 
 
 

VL-2000 or VL-2000 Shredder?

Post by Edward Ka » Sat, 19 Apr 1997 04:00:00

: Is there a major difference in these two loaders besides the price?  I know
: the Shredder has an 18V motor, but does it have much better performance?
: Is it faster?  Thanks for any info.  E-mail if you have the time.

: Brent

VL2000 - Holds 200 rounds. Operated off of a 9V battery.

VL2000 Shredder - Holds 200 rounds, Operated off of two 9V batteries in series
        (i.e. 18V). The speed is faster, but whether that sort of speed is
necessary is really, really, debatable.

VL3000 - Holds 300 rounds. Operated off of a 9V battery (looks like a long
        VL2000)

VL3000 Shredder - Holds 300 rounds. Operated off of two 9V batteries in series
        (i.e. 18V). The speed is faster, but whether that sort of speed is
necessary is really, really, really, really debatable.

I've seen a VL2xxx and VL3xxx's with two motors before, but they have only
been in pictures in PGI. Of course, my stance is what's the point. I still
use a VL200 :P

                                                                -Edward

 
 
 

VL-2000 or VL-2000 Shredder?

Post by LB1.. » Sat, 19 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


> : Is there a major difference in these two loaders besides the price?  I know
> : the Shredder has an 18V motor, but does it have much better performance?
> : Is it faster?  Thanks for any info.  

It's nice to have the extra 100 rds a 3000 packs.
It's nice to have the extra torque a Shredder packs.
It's not nice to have your Shredder w/extra torque turn Marbelizer Gold
into pudding.
It's not nice to have your batteries go down at the chrono 2 min. before
a game, and you can find only one battery in the rush.
It's not nice to pay the extra $40 for performance you won't see unless
you really spray paint all the time.

Whether you need the motor or not depends on whether you misfeed and pop
balls enought to warrant it.

Chris

 
 
 

VL-2000 or VL-2000 Shredder?

Post by General Housto » Sat, 19 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> > : Is there a major difference in these two loaders besides the price?  
> It's not nice to pay the extra $40 for performance you won't see unless
> you really spray paint all the time.

> Whether you need the motor or not depends on whether you misfeed and pop
> balls enought to warrant it.

> Chris

Chris,
        If you happen to operate a semi-auto marker that has almost zero recoil
(i.e. AutoMag, Shocker, or***er), then the VL200 will fail miserably.
You'll get 3 shots, then nothing.  Shake as you will, the paint will not
feed effectively.

A motorized loader was invented out of necessity.  It's not just a
gimmic.  Granted, if you own a recoil pounding marker like the VM-68,
Spyder, Tippmann, etc., then a VL2000 is probably a waste of money.
The VL200 is an outstanding loader for these recoil type markers.

John Houston
Owner, PIG PEN PAINTBALL
Captian, Agg ***
Denver, Co

 
 
 

VL-2000 or VL-2000 Shredder?

Post by LB1.. » Sun, 20 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


> > > : Is there a major difference in these two loaders besides the price?
> > It's not nice to pay the extra $40 for performance you won't see unless
> > you really spray paint all the time.

> > Whether you need the motor or not depends on whether you misfeed and pop
> > balls enought to warrant it.

> > Chris

> Chris,
>         If you happen to operate a semi-auto marker that has almost zero recoil
> (i.e. AutoMag, Shocker, or***er), then the VL200 will fail miserably.
> You'll get 3 shots, then nothing.  Shake as you will, the paint will not
> feed effectively.

> A motorized loader was invented out of necessity.  It's not just a
> gimmic.  Granted, if you own a recoil pounding marker like the VM-68,
> Spyder, Tippmann, etc., then a VL2000 is probably a waste of money.
> The VL200 is an outstanding loader for these recoil type markers.

Uhhm, I know that.  I've owned***ers, a Minimag, and a Typhoon.
The above statement addresses the stunning amt of players w/VL's on
their carbines, Allley Cats, and other guns that IMHO don't need it.
Many play at Mare Island and Prime Time.   But, that is best left up to
the owner, even if they are running guns that "require" an agitating
loader.

Chris Yu
Typhoon #H211
POG #010
Honour Bound
Staff Writer - Paintball Sphere

 
 
 

VL-2000 or VL-2000 Shredder?

Post by Dan R. Wilso » Tue, 22 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Quote:



> >Is there a major difference in these two loaders besides the price?  I know
> >the Shredder has an 18V motor, but does it have much better performance?
> >Is it faster?  Thanks for any info.  E-mail if you have the time.

> As far as I know, they both have the same motor, so you could hook up
> two 9 volt batteries to it to get the 18 volts.  I have a couple of
> friends that have done this with good success.

> Personally, I haven't bothered, my regular vl2000 works just great on
> 9 volts.

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That action would not make a VL200 a Shredder. The Shredder has a much
larger paddle inside, thus the need for the extra voltage.
 
 
 

VL-2000 or VL-2000 Shredder?

Post by Dan R. Wilso » Tue, 22 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


> > > : Is there a major difference in these two loaders besides the price?
> > It's not nice to pay the extra $40 for performance you won't see unless
> > you really spray paint all the time.

> > Whether you need the motor or not depends on whether you misfeed and pop
> > balls enought to warrant it.

> > Chris

> Chris,
>         If you happen to operate a semi-auto marker that has almost zero recoil
> (i.e. AutoMag, Shocker, or***er), then the VL200 will fail miserably.
> You'll get 3 shots, then nothing.  Shake as you will, the paint will not
> feed effectively.

> A motorized loader was invented out of necessity.  It's not just a
> gimmic.  Granted, if you own a recoil pounding marker like the VM-68,
> Spyder, Tippmann, etc., then a VL2000 is probably a waste of money.
> The VL200 is an outstanding loader for these recoil type markers.

> John Houston
> Owner, PIG PEN PAINTBALL
> Captian, Agg ***
> Denver, Co

General Houston, pardon the intrusion, but the discussion here is about
the difference between a VL2000 and a VL2000 Shredder, not a simple
VL200.
 
 
 

VL-2000 or VL-2000 Shredder?

Post by Irishpba » Thu, 24 Apr 1997 04:00:00

I really like my shredder but darn it,,,why does it eat so many batteries?
 Even if I unplug them between sessions it just seems that they don't last
worth a darn.Don