> Hi all,
> Following the stroke cycles posted by Niel (thanks they are AMAZING by
> the way), I was watching the French double (both M2x & LM2x) and notice
> that they seem to remain connected all the way through the stroke with
> acceleration until the blade almost hits the body. Furthermore it seems
> like they finish a lot longer than most crews with the hands "coming
> apart" (for lack of a better expression) right at the end of the stroke.
I am not sure what you mean by the "hands coming apart" but it has struck
me in many occasions that the way I was told to "finish" (I don't like that
word) in France is different from the way I am told to "finish" here.
When it comes to sculling, in France, I was asked to row very long at the
back end and to keep accelerating the blade until my hands are almost on
sides of the body (I think the way I was told was "until your thumbs are
brushing your ribs") and only then to "release". In England (well,
really) I was told to finish with a much straighter upper body, put less
pressure at the end and release the blade when my hands are in front of my
To be fair, I have no idea which technique is better; but there is one
certainty: the sculling boats I used in Paris were rigged differently
and allowed for that timing of the release - it always felt very difficult
when I tried to do that in England (the angle of the footplate has
do with it as well).
> I've used a Rowperfect a couple of time in the last while, really nice
> machine and it has it's virtues but I always get the feeling that I
> completely loose my finish when I'm using it. I get the feeling that I
> have a finish which is similar to Marcel's. I notice that he's not the
> only one who does it and I also get the feeling I can tell which crews
> use RP's extensively in their training because of the finish which (in my
> humble opinion) it develops.
If I remember well from their training plan, the French team does as little
ergs as possible and do the maximum training on the water (if I am not
exercises in the boat start with a B and on the ergs with an E).
> To further "justify" my claims, I get the same feeling when I row feet
> out. I know there have been a lot of posts on the feet out debate so I
> don't really want to start another massive debate on that, but the same
> "apparent weakness" at the finish prevails which it seems I have to do to
> prevent myself from flying off the back of the rails. This has been
> bothering me for a while because I know I shouldn't fly off the back but
> I can only minimize it and not eliminate it. This brings me back to the
> should you be pulling on your shoe's debate we had a while back. I still
> can't figure if that's a good thing or not.
Well, there are things I'll never understand: the obsession with feet out,
with square blades, with arms only etc... or rather, the two things I'll
understand are (1) the point of spending more times doing those exercises
trying to use the benefit of them on the rowing stroke you'll do during a
race... (2) the point of doing exercises that are useful to improve your
on one specific point but also gives you bad habits on other parts of the
But maybe that's just me.
Come to think of it, I have very good videos of the technique that the
FFSA (French ARA) is recommending but I am not too sure I am allowed to
Disclaimer: none of the above should be interpreted as an official
statement from any organisation that I may belong to. The above is just the
my (arguably very limited) understanding of the subject I am talking about,
hopefully not too stupidly.