High School Rowing- Your forgetting someone!

High School Rowing- Your forgetting someone!

Post by DanielN7 » Wed, 22 Mar 1995 02:54:53


A quick look at the junior national team testing will reveal the strongest
(and deepest) high school crew in the country. The Sarasota Scullers crew
team (aka Riverview Crew) from Florida has dominated the fall rowing scene
and will dominate the spring. In the youth 4 at the Charles they lost only
to a loaded Navy 4 which set the course record. At the Schuylkill, in the
High School 8 they beat PENN AC aka St. Joes by :55 seconds on a 2.5 mile
course and lost to only the Princeton Frosh 8(which looks to be the team
to beat at Eastern Sprints) when the colleges are factored in. Their time
beat Navy's, Georgetown's, BU's, and George Washington's youth crews
decisively. The shocked NE Catholic and PENN AC coaches could not believe
a Florida crew could be fast, protested to the officials that the clocking
system must have malfunctioned. When the protest was proved faulty, the
race official found that the PENN AC crew had made off with the silver
plates given to the winners.

At CRASH-Bs the Sarasota Scullers second best erg, Dan Newman(7:59.4),
lost to LaSalle's beloved Miller by a mere second. Miller's fly and die
plan fell through when he was bested by the record setting German and
three others. Another Sarasota rower, Bill Plifka, finished seventh behind
Newman in Junior race. Plifka, a lightweight, won the lightweight hammer
by pulling an 8:09, more than five seconds off his best time.

The average 2500 erg for their 8 is under an 8:10

Two weeks ago at The President's Cup in Tampa, Fl. They had a chance to
race many college varsitys including Yale. In the morning heat, Sarasota
placed fourth losing to Yale's varsity 8 stroked by Peter Stroble by .5
seconds, FIT's varsity by .3seconds, and Yale's JV by .1 seconds. Sarasota
then won the Petite Final by open water beating five college varsitys all
from Florida.

The Sarasota Scullers are anxious to get out Florida to find competition
and establish themselves as the premier junior program in the country.
They are going to San Diego in ten days to race the West Coast Schools and
the newly formed Victoria Rowing Club, formerly Brentwood.

They are going the new Cincinatti Invitational Junior race(June 10) which
could possibly put an end to this idiotic discussion. From Cincinatti they
will fly to Henley to race in the Temple Challenge Cup, one plate above
the Pricess Elizabeth Cup.

They will race anyone. They will race any crew which will come to the line
with them from colliegiate varsity 8 to any Philadelphia Catholic school
or any New England prep school.

Bring it on.
Robert Zimmerman

 
 
 

High School Rowing- Your forgetting someone!

Post by Fitije » Wed, 22 Mar 1995 04:09:56

Sarasota,
Your forgetting one thing....The fall means jack!!  Just about every good
crew fools around in the fall...at least the good ones.  If you row a hard
fall your going to burn out for the spring.  Second of all, you might be
good, but you'd be better if you rowed in Philadelphia.  We, at LaSalle,
row boats you guess race in big races every week and day in some cases.
The last 5 Henley contenders from the Stotesbury were all from
Philadelphia.  Come to Philadelphia and we'll give you a run for your
money---ask Upper Canada.

 
 
 

High School Rowing- Your forgetting someone!

Post by IhtBarn » Wed, 22 Mar 1995 07:05:22

Ok, RIVERVIEW is good, I understand that but they are a CLUB made up of at
least 4 or 5 different schools.  Now, if you separate all of these people
into their own schools what do you have,  NOTHING.

Also, I think that everyone can put aside little PREP VS. LASALLE
differences and form the Phila. high crew.  Do you really think that that
boat, a mix of PREP, LASALLE, BONNER and a few others, would lose to
ANYONE in the free world?

ALL Philadelphia high school rowers know this no matter how much they hate
the other schools that they race against.

Sean Mulligan
LaSalle High School

 
 
 

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Post by RedShif » Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:21:40

:Second of all, you might be good, but you'd be better if you rowed in
:Philadelphia.  We, at LaSalle, row boats you guess race in big races
every week :and day in some cases. The last 5 Henley contenders from the
Stotesbury were :all from Philadelphia. Come to Philadelphia and we'll
give you a run for your :money---ask Upper Canada.

You Philly HS rowers seem to have an undeserved ego as you claim your
national superiority while having not even raced crews from New England,
the south or the west. You're not the only crews with Junior National team
members and frequent "big races." The fact that the last 5 Henley
contenders from Stotesbury were all from Philadelphia is not all that
impressive considering that there were 5 HS crews from New England alone
at last year's Henley, including the winner, St. Paul's.

Furthermore, someone commented that rowers in New England have 5 years of
experience, which is completely erronuous since I can think of only two
schools off the top of my head out of about thirty who compete at the New
England Championships at Quin who have more than 4 grades. Not to mention,
crew is not a full year sport in New England since many rowers play more
than one sport. Some New England schools do enter Head races in the fall,
yet they do so with only one Sunday of practice at most. While some NE
rowers do train full year 'round like myself, they do so in the offseason
on their own, and thus Philadelphia rowers seem to have the advantage
since they row in the fall, get your facts straight!

Nevertheless, Philadelphia HS rowers have in no way proven their
superiority to the rest of the country and should thus cease claiming it
and try to be as mature about it as their New England counterparts.
Ironically though, Philadelphia rowers might very well be the best if they
actually spent as much time training as they do writing ridiculous
messages boasting a bunch of ***and ***ing each other out.

Mike Thoyer, Middlesex Crew

 
 
 

High School Rowing- Your forgetting someone!

Post by WMullen1 » Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:55:26

I am far out of the high school rowing scene, being in my last year of
collage rowing (coxing), but if i am not mistaken isn't Riverview a club
which comprises it's members from a group of high schools in the area???
As much as i would like to hate the Prep, they will be at the Stotes and
if Riverview want's to say they are a highschool crew then they should be
there. If they can't go because their crew is not all from the same
school, then they arn't a highschool crew, they are a club and not a
contender for any bragging rights that highschool crews hold with so much
pride. If i am mistaken, i send my regards, but if i am correct, i'm sure
that the Prep, LaSalle, Bonnor, North Catholic, Father Judge, CHA, Spirt,
and AC could put a crew together among there schools to challenge the crew
that has been overlooked.
 
 
 

High School Rowing- Your forgetting someone!

Post by Timothy Ame » Sat, 25 Mar 1995 03:59:59

Sarasota is right: Someone is being forgotten. But the locale is not
Southeast, it's Northwest. If anyone wants to refresh their memory, check
out the pictures in Rowing Magazine following Indy Nationals last year,
or look at the trophy in San Diego when we loan it back to them (but only
for a couple of days) in another week.

Sure, it's a "club" and not a high school. But, hey, we don't recruit the
way some "high schools" do. We take what we get, and we turn them into
the best high school rowers in the country.

Green Lake Crew's blue and green will see you all in San Diego.

 
 
 

High School Rowing- Your forgetting someone!

Post by RowerL » Sat, 25 Mar 1995 13:13:22

Quote:
>Nevertheless, Philadelphia HS rowers have in no way proven their
>superiority to the rest of the country and should thus cease claiming it
>and try to be as mature about it as their New England counterparts.
>Ironically though, Philadelphia rowers might very well be the best if
they
>actually spent as much time training as they do writing ridiculous
>messages boasting a bunch of ***and ***ing each other out.

First of all, I sort of agree with you... we can't really judge each other
because we know that in rowing on rivers, times are all relative. This is
why I think that just, even if for just one raceing weekend a year we
could have a REAL nationals... one that actually includes the whole
nation...

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P.S. - You seem to have to time to write long posts too... we practice 6
days a week, with a couple doubles a week... but there's always the
night...