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Cambridge Oxford Line-Ups

Post by MattamH » Wed, 06 Mar 1996 04:00:00


Does Cambridge really think that they can win with only one Yank?

Matt H.

 
 
 

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Post by Pablo Wangerma » Wed, 06 Mar 1996 04:00:00

From The Times (www.the-times.co.uk)

Cambridge rely on home guard

     THE uncommitted among the seven million British television
     viewers who will tune in to the 142nd Boat Race on April 6 will
     presumably root for Cambridge this year (Mike Rosewell writes).
     At the official challenge and crew announcement at Chelsea
     Harbour yesterday, Cambridge, aiming to win the Beefeater Gin
     Trophy for the fourth year running, named a largely home-grown
     crew, while Oxford have four Americans and one Canadian in their
     line-up.

     John Carver, the Cambridge president, excluded because of a wrist
     injury, named a crew including six British undergraduates. Five of
     them, Miles Barnett, the only Blue, Sebastian Dawson-Bowling,
     Henry Clarke, James Ball and Rob Waller, are Great Britain
     Under-23 internationals. Of the older postgraduates, two are also
     British, and the only foreigner this year is an American, Ethan
     Ayer, a Henley winner in 1993 and the giant of the race at 6ft 8in
     and 15st 6lb.

     In Oxford's more cosmopolitan crew, Rob Clegg, the president and
     only Blue, is joined by, among others, Paul Berger and Ben Mann,
     both of whom have been on the edge of the United States senior
     team, and John Hammond, who has a formidable Harvard pedigree.

     CAMBRIDGE: Bow, R Waller (Emanuel and Downing); 2, * M
     Barnett (Harrogate GS and Queens'); 3, J Elliott (Winchester and
     Trinity); 4, S Dawson-Bowling (King's, Canterbury and
     Magdalene); 5, E Ayer (Phillips Andover Academy, Harvard and St
     Edmunds); 6, H Clarke (Taunton and Trinity Hall); 7, N Burfitt
     (Wimbledon College, Imperial College and St George's Medical
     School, and Emmanuel); Stroke, J Ball (King's, Chester and
     Robinson); Cox, K Whyman (King's, Chester and Peterhouse).

     OXFORD (in likely order): Bow, J Hammond (Phillips Exeter
     Academy, Harvard and New College); 2, * D Clegg (Radley,
     University College London and Keble, president); 3, E Bellamy
     (Hampton, Durham University and Keble); 4, D West (Dulwich,
     King's College London and St Catherine's); 5, B Mann (J P
     McCaskey High Street, Yale and Keble); 6, J Howick (Dartmouth
     College, Concordia University and Keble); 7, P Berger (Mission
     Bay HS, University of Pennsylvania and University); Stroke, A
     Frost (Eton and Oriel); Cox, T Kristol (Scarsdale HS, Harvard and
     Oriel).

     GOLDIE (Cambridge reserve crew): Bow, J Mellor (Latymer
     Upper and Queens'); 2, J Fauset (Hampton and Homerton) or C
     Brun (Eton and Robinson); 3, R Bowman (Wrenn School,
     Wellingborough and Trinity Hall); 4, D Cassidy (Shrewsbury and
     Trinity Hall); 5, A Watson (The Cavendish School and Sidney
     Sussex); 6, N Smith (Winchester and Corpus Christi); 7, R Pim
     (Methodist College and Downing); Stroke, P Mallin-Jones (The
     Grange GS and St John's); Cox, A Potts (Winchester, Edinburgh
     University and Trinity Hall).

     ISIS (Oxford reserve crew, order to be decided): P Bance
     (Fredericton HS, University of New Brunswick and University
     College); T Flemming (Magdalen College School, Oxford, Trinity,
     Cambridge and Magdalen), D Forward (Westcliff HS and
     Magdalen); S Hughes (Windsor Boys, University of London and
     Keble); C Humphreys (Hampton and Oriel); R Kelly (Thurston
     Upper and New College); * G Rosengren (Vallejo Senior High,
     California, Harvard and New College); J Roycroft (Eton and
     Keble); Cox, P Greaney (Abingdon and St Edmund Hall). * A Blue

 
 
 

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Post by Thomas A Pric » Thu, 07 Mar 1996 04:00:00

What exactly is "a Blue"?  I've never heard the term before.

                -Thomas A Price-

 
 
 

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Post by Charles Ehrli » Sat, 09 Mar 1996 04:00:00

As far as I am aware, it is all four lightweight crews which are going
(Harvard and Yale first varsities, Oxford and Cambridge blue boats).  There
was some discussion as to whether the weigh-in should take place the morning
of or the evening before the race.  I believe the US crews have refused to
weigh in the day of because this race falls at the start of their racing
seasons and it would be a bad move for health reasons to force them to do so.
Oxford and Cambridge will be at their peak and will be used to racing having
weighed in on the day.

I think I may have heard, however, that the heavyweights are racing in Atlanta
as well.  Presumably, these would be the equivalent heavyweight crews (i.e.
H + Y first varsities, Ox + Cam blue boats), minus the weigh-in debate.  Of
course, I don't really know what the heavies are up to (saw Jay Hammond at a
Phillips Exeter alumni dinner in London last night, but we didn't talk about
Atlanta).

Charles Ehrlich
(wearing far too many coaching hats and past allegiances to list here...)
asst. coach, OULRC
ex-H150s
etc.

 
 
 

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Post by Calum Gran » Sun, 10 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> What exactly is "a Blue"?  I've never heard the term before.

It's from Cambridge and Oxford Universities' anachronistic system of
awarding merit to sportmsmen and women.  Certain sports are FULL BLUE,
such as soccer, rugby and rowing.  Other sports are HALF BLUE, such as
shooting, swimming and lightweight rowing.  This is of course an arbitrary
valuation, although heavyweight rowers put in more time than all others.

They are called "blue" because the colours of the universities are dark
blue for Oxford and light blue for Cambridge.  Only the top eight is
awarded a BLUE, which rows with blue blades and is called the BLUE BOAT.  A
BLUE [oarsman] has rowed in the Cambridge-Oxford boat race.

--
Calum
_______________________________________________________________________________
Calum Grant, Queens' College, Cambridge University, Cambridge, CB3 9ET, UK.  

_______________________________________________________________________________

 
 
 

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Post by Neil Whi » Tue, 12 Mar 1996 04:00:00

In article

Quote:




> > >awarding merit to sportmsmen and women.  Certain sports are FULL BLUE,
> > >such as soccer, rugby and rowing.  Other sports are HALF BLUE, such as
> > >shooting, swimming and lightweight rowing.  This is of course an arbitrary
> > >valuation, although heavyweight rowers put in more time than all others.

> > This is not strictly accurate - you can get a full blue for swimming and
> > I think even shooting if you're good enough.  The men's lightweights get
> > a lightweight colour.

> Pedantry!  Agreed, but most people in these sports get just half blues.
> There is no such thing as a lightweight colour - I know - I was a
> lightweight.  It's probably just an expression to say "I rowed in the
> Cambridge-oxford varsity lightweights boat race."

As far as I'm aware most Universities give 'colours' for sports.  I used
to play ice hockey for Oxford and got a half blue for that, although , as
already mentioned some full blues were awarded for very good (i.e. usually
the Canadian/American) players.

I now row for Birmingham and colours or half colours are awarded for a
certain number of wins or good results in the University championships
etc.  

The main difference between Oxbridge blues and other Universities colours
appears to be that Blues are exclusively awarded for appearences in the
annual Oxford Cambridge varsity competitons whereas other universities
have a lot more flexibility in the criteria dictating those that recieve
colours.

Neil.

 
 
 

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Post by Mark » Tue, 12 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


> > What exactly is "a Blue"?  I've never heard the term before.

> It's from Cambridge and Oxford Universities' anachronistic system of
> awarding merit to sportmsmen and women.  Certain sports are FULL BLUE,
> such as soccer, rugby and rowing.  Other sports are HALF BLUE, such as
> shooting, swimming and lightweight rowing.  This is of course an arbitrary
> valuation, although heavyweight rowers put in more time than all others.

> They are called "blue" because the colours of the universities are dark
> blue for Oxford and light blue for Cambridge.  Only the top eight is
> awarded a BLUE, which rows with blue blades and is called the BLUE BOAT.  A
> BLUE [oarsman] has rowed in the Cambridge-Oxford boat race.
>                                              /   /   /   /

Just to add to this... Participants in certain sports (e.g. Karate) will only get
HALF BLUE status when competing for the university. However if they then go onto
represent the National Team for that sport whilst still a student, they will be awarded
a FULL BLUE.

On another point - Do heavyweights really put in more time?  If nothing else, I have to
put an excessive amount of time (and 's) into just eating :-O

Marky Mark. (An ultra Lightweight) -===<C=S=7=6=5=4=3=2=B>===-
                                            \   \   \   \
Furnivall Men's Squad

 
 
 

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Post by Charles Ehrli » Sat, 16 Mar 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>> valuation, although heavyweight rowers put in more time than all others.

>On another point - Do heavyweights really put in more time?  

No.  I'll vouch for the lights.

Charles Ehrlich
asst. coach OULRC, etc.

 
 
 

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Post by **unknown* » Sat, 16 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


>> What exactly is "a Blue"?  I've never heard the term before.

>>                 -Thomas A Price-
>A "Blue" is someone who represents either Oxford or Cambridge University in
>their annual competition in one of the major sports (Rowing, Rugby, Soccer,etc).
>Oxford's colours are Dark Blue, Cambridge are Light Blue, hence the term.
>The University of London have an equivalent "Purple" - no prizes for guessing
>what colour their blades are.

There is a strange phenomenon in Ox. and Cam. known as "bluetac" (this is
the name of a product which sticks posters ect. to walls incase you Y ank
dont have it) whereby any young man seen about town in his copious
ammounts of blue rowing kit is instantly deemed very attractive to the
opposite sex and soon has a few of then stuck to him. Studies have proved
that this is due not to another high tech material but to some
mysterious effect unexplained by science involving making media stars
out of men with highly athletic bodies. Despite numerous studies at the
University of London no evidence has been found of purpletac.

DOM U.L.