I tried to reply to your post in the "Re: Near Drowning, Israel" thread, but
all I got was the following:
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So I am going to try to start a new thread to see if I can still post to the
The idea of drawing "the finish so hard that the body [is] already moving
forward at the extraction" is very intriguing to me. Indeed it has been the
only way that I have been able to row feet out, whether in a shell or on the
erg with the new CorePerform seat.
You write: "The outside shoulder and arm and oar handle can still be moving
towards the bow while the torso is beginning to move sternwards . . . The
necessary sternwards momentum to get the hands away and the CG moving is
already there at the release." You question whether this is applicable to
sculling. I think so. Or at least it has been in my experience.
What I might amend is the statement that "the torso is beginning to move
sternwards." That seems to me slightly misleading. From my observations it
is not the entire torso that moves forwards. Rather it is the upper third of
the torso, the part above the hands. This upper third moves very slightly
sternwards while the bottom two thirds still continue to move bowards.
I think of this movement as hunching the shoulders to bring the arms
perpendicular to the body. When this torso movement is done correctly it is
barely noticeable. But it is very serviceable. It will keep the feet
connected to the footstretcher, which I find gives me the stability at the
finish to row feet out. With greater stability at the finish not only can I
begin the recovery sooner and more smoothly, but I also have increased
stability at the catch. Suddenly I am reminded of my little epiphany several
months ago. The proof of a good finish is a strong, stable, confident catch.
So my observations don't support Carl on this point. Rowing feet out has
been for me a very good way to teach myself how to keep a boat stable at the
I also agree with you that "at the end of the stroke you need to give a
fairly large sternwards acceleration to the body" and that this acceleration
should come from the hands, not the feet. It should come from that initial
"torso beginning to move sternwards" at the extraction.
I did a Goggle search on Hugh Robert Arthur Edwards' "The Way of a Man With
a Blade" 1963. It looks like it ain't going to be easy to find. I have a
book search order with Amazon here on this side of the pond. Maybe I'll get