Mystery trophy

Mystery trophy

Post by James Elde » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:11:36


RQ has been kind enough to put this on the Rowing Service and I have
also posted on the rowhistory forum but I thought I might catch a
different audience here.

TRC has been sent a photo of a club crew in approx 1930 posing with
their trophy:

http://thamesrc.co.uk/site/news/archive/assets/images/MTY4NzQ5.jpg

We're trying to identify the trophy.  Best guess is that it is from a
Junior or Junior/Senior event (i.e. approx Senior 2 - Senior 4 in new
money) at a Thames regatta - maybe Met or Putney Town?  None of the
crew went on to represent Thames at Henley so we have to assume they
were at the more novice/intermediate end of things.

Thanks in advance - I'd like to be able to fill in the gaps for the
son of one of the competitors.  He was kind enough to donate his dad's
blazer to the club and it is now gracing the shoulders of a current
member.

James

 
 
 

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Post by hopk.. » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:48:32

James,

Looking at the picture, there is a name of GH Page. Could this be
Goeffrey Page? I know that he did a lot of coaching at Thames in the
70's / 80's. I think that his age then would just about fit.

j.

 
 
 

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Post by James Elde » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:33:41


Quote:
> James,

> Looking at the picture, there is a name of GH Page. Could this be
> Goeffrey Page? I know that he did a lot of coaching at Thames in the
> 70's / 80's. I think that his age then would just about fit.

> j.

It's actually JH 'Freddie' Page, Geoffrey's father.  He's the chap in
the middle of the back row wearing a blue blazer.

Freddie was a Captain of Thames and later Vice President.  I think I'm
right that he was involved in the admission of women to TRC in 1973
(which required the backwoodsmen to be outwitted).

He was also secretary (I think) of the ARA and was quite involved in
the merger with the NARA which ended the schism caused by different
definitions of amateurism.

GGH (Geoffrey) Page in his turn was coach and Captain at Thames in the
late fifties and early sixties, and was elected President shortly
before his death in (from memory) 2003.

 
 
 

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Post by Alistair Pott » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:43:57

Surely you can make out some of the lettering? You may need a magnifying
glass.

And what's that thing on top of the big trophy? Looks like a fairy doing a
fascist salute. There might be a clue there.

Geoffrey Page was G.G.H. Page but surely this is a pre-war photo? So it's
not him, he was born in '29. His father was Freddie Page, and was captain of
Thames RC, but he may have not actually have been called Freddie at all
(he's always "Freddie" Page) so given the coincidence of the initials and
the timeframe it may well be Page senior. It would be pretty easy to find
out.

The coxswain on the floor rightly looks concerned about the intent of the
gentleman in whose groin he is neatly nestled.

 
 
 

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Post by Carl Dougla » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:25:37

Quote:


>> James,

>> Looking at the picture, there is a name of GH Page. Could this be
>> Goeffrey Page? I know that he did a lot of coaching at Thames in the
>> 70's / 80's. I think that his age then would just about fit.

>> j.

> It's actually JH 'Freddie' Page, Geoffrey's father.  He's the chap in
> the middle of the back row wearing a blue blazer.

> Freddie was a Captain of Thames and later Vice President.  I think I'm
> right that he was involved in the admission of women to TRC in 1973
> (which required the backwoodsmen to be outwitted).

> He was also secretary (I think) of the ARA and was quite involved in
> the merger with the NARA which ended the schism caused by different
> definitions of amateurism.

> GGH (Geoffrey) Page in his turn was coach and Captain at Thames in the
> late fifties and early sixties, and was elected President shortly
> before his death in (from memory) 2003.

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Post by Carl Dougla » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:49:43

Quote:



>>> James,

>>> Looking at the picture, there is a name of GH Page. Could this be
>>> Goeffrey Page? I know that he did a lot of coaching at Thames in the
>>> 70's / 80's. I think that his age then would just about fit.

>>> j.

>> It's actually JH 'Freddie' Page, Geoffrey's father.  He's the chap in
>> the middle of the back row wearing a blue blazer.

>> Freddie was a Captain of Thames and later Vice President.  I think I'm
>> right that he was involved in the admission of women to TRC in 1973
>> (which required the backwoodsmen to be outwitted).

>> He was also secretary (I think) of the ARA and was quite involved in
>> the merger with the NARA which ended the schism caused by different
>> definitions of amateurism.

>> GGH (Geoffrey) Page in his turn was coach and Captain at Thames in the
>> late fifties and early sixties, and was elected President shortly
>> before his death in (from memory) 2003.

Errr - I didn't mean to send that empty message.  Nor any other.  However:

Freddie Page, assisted by his dog, ran the ARA from a room at Regent's
Park (rented from the now-defunct AAA, IIRC?).  It is at least fair to
suggest that Page, who as James indicates achieved a very great deal for
the sport, would have had little time for the present occupants of the
various parallel roles which he once filled.

Meanwhile one wonders who will be found to have dared say boo to a goose
at today's ARA council meeting.  note that _still_ the review report
remains unpublished.  I wonder what implausible excuses for their
repeated delays the DCMS will be offering this time?  So kind of them to
the ARA exec to have withheld publication until after today's council
meeting.  Small wonder, given such transparent deviousness, that this
government's rating has sunk so spectacularly low.

Carl

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