Some interesting proposed FISA rule changes

Some interesting proposed FISA rule changes

Post by Christopher Anto » Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:40:15


I wonder how many of these will get through. The Swiss plans on restricting
the big federations will prove highly contentious I bet.
Lots of interesting rteding here if you get bored over Christmas
http://SportToday.org/

- Veteran J category for 80+

-U23LW4x (from Australia)

- unprotection of LM8+

- No national federation to be allowed to compete in more than 10 Olympic
events (from Switzerland)

- New bow ball bye law

1.1 The bows of all boats shall be fitted with a solid white ball shape,
minimum diameter 4 cm, in hard *** or a hard material. If this is an
external part it shall be firmly affixed to the bow of the boat, such that
it does not significantly deflect if a side force is applied. If it is if an
integral part of the hull construction, it shall afford equivalent
protection and visibility.

- New wireless transmission bye law to get out the grey area of GPSs

1.3 During racing, no wireless transmission equipment shall be used, whether
for sending or receiving, except that FISA may install on each boat a device
for the purpose of transmitting real-time race information which shall be
owned by FISA and may be used, including for presentation and promotion of
the event and the sport.

- New heel restrain bye law

To avoid accidents arising from capsizing, all boats shall be equipped with
footstretchers or shoes that allow the competitors to get clear of the boat
without using their hands and with the least possible delay. If heel
restraints are used they should not allow the heel the heel to lift more
than 5cm.

- Fours and quads to be sectional as well as eights

- Removal of the requirement to "stay in their lane throughout the duration
of the race"

- Introduction of red cards

- A new definition of a dead heat

- Allowing manufacturers' marks on fins

- Change in progression in 9-10 boat events to have just 1 repechage

- To introduce repechages into the 24+ events so to have heats, reps, QF,
SF, finals

 
 
 

Some interesting proposed FISA rule changes

Post by Stephen Pool » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:36:19

On Dec 17, 8:40?pm, "Christopher Anton"

Quote:

> I wonder how many of these will get through. The Swiss plans on restricting
> the big federations will prove highly contentious I bet.
> Lots of interesting rteding here if you get bored over Christmashttp://SportToday.org/

> - Veteran J category for 80+

> -U23LW4x (from Australia)

> - unprotection of LM8+

> - No national federation to be allowed to compete in more than 10 Olympic
> events (from Switzerland)

> - New bow ball bye law

> 1.1 The bows of all boats shall be fitted with a solid white ball shape,
> minimum diameter 4 cm, in hard *** or a hard material. If this is an
> external part it shall be firmly affixed to the bow of the boat, such that
> it does not significantly deflect if a side force is applied. If it is if an
> integral part of the hull construction, it shall afford equivalent
> protection and visibility.

> - New wireless transmission bye law to get out the grey area of GPSs

> 1.3 During racing, no wireless transmission equipment shall be used, whether
> for sending or receiving, except that FISA may install on each boat a device
> for the purpose of transmitting real-time race information which shall be
> owned by FISA and may be used, including for presentation and promotion of
> the event and the sport.

> - New heel restrain bye law

> To avoid accidents arising from capsizing, all boats shall be equipped with
> footstretchers or shoes that allow the competitors to get clear of the boat
> without using their hands and with the least possible delay. If heel
> restraints are used they should not allow the heel the heel to lift more
> than 5cm.

> - Fours and quads to be sectional as well as eights

> - Removal of the requirement to "stay in their lane throughout the duration
> of the race"

> - Introduction of red cards

> - A new definition of a dead heat

> - Allowing manufacturers' marks on fins

> - Change in progression in 9-10 boat events to have just 1 repechage

> - To introduce repechages into the 24+ events so to have heats, reps, QF,
> SF, finals

There has also been proposals to make the age limit on FISA official
representation older from 65 by both the Brits (to 70) and by someone
else (older) and FISA exec are against both of the age limit changes.

May make for some interesting debate as well.

 
 
 

Some interesting proposed FISA rule changes

Post by dspringinnoc.. » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:10:19

Quote:

> > - No national federation to be allowed to compete in more than 10 Olympic
> > events (from Switzerland)

What utter nonsense!
Would swimming,cycling,gymnastics etc etc ever consider such a foolish
notion?

 
 
 

Some interesting proposed FISA rule changes

Post by kdav.. » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:57:43


Quote:

> > > - No national federation to be allowed to compete in more than 10 Olympic
> > > events (from Switzerland)

> What utter nonsense!
> Would swimming,cycling,gymnastics etc etc ever consider such a foolish
> notion?

No, but the IOC might well like it (to cut down on athlete numbers)
and they pack some punch with FISA.
Kit
 
 
 

Some interesting proposed FISA rule changes

Post by dspringinnoc.. » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:05:59

Quote:



> > > > - No national federation to be allowed to compete in more than 10 Olympic
> > > > events (from Switzerland)

> > What utter nonsense!
> > Would swimming,cycling,gymnastics etc etc ever consider such a foolish
> > notion?

> No, but the IOC might well like it (to cut down on athlete numbers)
> and they pack some punch with FISA.
> Kit

Would it cut down on the numbers?, or just allow more federations to
enter?
 
 
 

Some interesting proposed FISA rule changes

Post by mrusco » Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:37:59

Quote:




>>>>> - No national federation to be allowed to compete in more than 10 Olympic
>>>>> events (from Switzerland)
>>> What utter nonsense!
>>> Would swimming,cycling,gymnastics etc etc ever consider such a foolish
>>> notion?
>> No, but the IOC might well like it (to cut down on athlete numbers)
>> and they pack some punch with FISA.
>> Kit

> Would it cut down on the numbers?, or just allow more federations to
> enter?

It's probably about the smaller European federations getting more crews
qualified (SUI had one athlete at Beijing). They don't have a regional
qualifying regatta to help them, and I guess they think that restricting
CHN, GBR, GER, AUS and USA would free up places that they would have a
chance of taking.
 
 
 

Some interesting proposed FISA rule changes

Post by kdav.. » Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:02:58


Quote:



> > > > > - No national federation to be allowed to compete in more than 10 Olympic
> > > > > events (from Switzerland)

> > > What utter nonsense!
> > > Would swimming,cycling,gymnastics etc etc ever consider such a foolish
> > > notion?

> > No, but the IOC might well like it (to cut down on athlete numbers)
> > and they pack some punch with FISA.
> > Kit

> Would it cut down on the numbers?, or just allow more federations to
> enter?

Yes, sorry, don't know what I was thinking! As you say, it would free
up spaces for other nations which I suspect the IOC will look kindly
on.
Kit
 
 
 

Some interesting proposed FISA rule changes

Post by anton2.. » Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:44:40


Quote:

> > > - No national federation to be allowed to compete in more than 10 Olympic
> > > events (from Switzerland)

> What utter nonsense!
> Would swimming,cycling,gymnastics etc etc ever consider such a foolish
> notion?

Since 2000 the Swiss have effectively hit the self destruct button in
terms of National Team rowing. If you look at their performance from
94-2000 across all age groups and standards the line was drawn in 2000
and that is not a athlete problem, thats absolutely a strategy issue.

Changing the rules for the Olympics will not improve their prospects
of inclusion in the event. Some better decision making might.

 
 
 

Some interesting proposed FISA rule changes

Post by Rob Colling » Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:12:41


Quote:
> Yes, sorry, don't know what I was thinking! As you say, it would free
> up spaces for other nations which I suspect the IOC will look kindly
> on.

Since when was the Olympics an inclusive event? Provided that they all
have a fair chance to qualify, surely only the best people in each
event should be competing? This approach could (will?) lead to some of
the best people being excluded, so the winners aren't necessarily the
best in the world. Faster, higher, stronger, but punting some out to
be replaced with some slower, lower, weaker entries...

Rob.

 
 
 

Some interesting proposed FISA rule changes

Post by mar.. » Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:50:40

Quote:

> Remember the biggest Olys entertainers? ?Were they not, so often, the
> glorious failures: not just the Eric the Eel & Eddie the Eagle types
> (would you dare to do a ski jump when you couldn't even see the landing
> point?),

personally speaking the only way I would do a ski jump is if I
definitely couldnt see the landing point
 
 
 

Some interesting proposed FISA rule changes

Post by Carl Dougla » Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:17:02

Quote:

>> Remember the biggest Olys entertainers?  Were they not, so often, the
>> glorious failures: not just the Eric the Eel & Eddie the Eagle types
>> (would you dare to do a ski jump when you couldn't even see the landing
>> point?),

> personally speaking the only way I would do a ski jump is if I
> definitely couldnt see the landing point

In which case, what's the point of landing?

The only way I'd do a ski jump is if I was bound, gagged & thrown of the
damned thing.

Happy Christmas!
Carl

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Some interesting proposed FISA rule changes

Post by Mike De Petri » Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:39:26


Quote:
> The Olys used to be about the "taking part, rather than the winning".

I love this man!

Carl, can I take your words and use them in my elect***program
please?

Yes, I am so sad for the state of our sport that I candidate for
president of our local committee of the national rowing federation.

 
 
 

Some interesting proposed FISA rule changes

Post by Carl Dougla » Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:19:08

Quote:


>> The Olys used to be about the "taking part, rather than the winning".

> I love this man!

> Carl, can I take your words and use them in my elect***program
> please?

> Yes, I am so sad for the state of our sport that I candidate for
> president of our local committee of the national rowing federation.

You amorous Italians do worry me ;)  And at first I had thought you were
standing for election against Silvio Berlusconi, the man so deeply in
love with George Bush that he wouldn't even let go of his hand in public!

The words in quotes are, approximately, those of Baron de Coubertin,
founder of the modern Olympics.  What he is actually supposed to have
said was:
"L'important n'est pas de gagner, mais de participer" - "The important
thing is not winning, but taking part".

Some of us happen to think he was right.  But I don't think it possible
to believe that de Coubertin's oft-quoted words remain the guiding
principle of the sometimes corrupt, always deeply commercial, modern OGs.

All success in the election, Mike!

Cheers -
Carl
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Some interesting proposed FISA rule changes

Post by Edga » Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:36:27


Quote:

> Remember the biggest Olys entertainers? Were they not, so often, the
> glorious failures: not just the Eric the Eel & Eddie the Eagle types
> (would you dare to do a ski jump when you couldn't even see the landing
> point?),

personally speaking the only way I would do a ski jump is if I
definitely couldnt see the landing point

Never mind the landing point.
Just look down from the start gate and ask yourself if you would start down
there under any circumstances at all.
Having looked down Holmenkollen  (in summertime) I realise Eddie the Eagle
was a hero to start such a sport late in life.