advice: 1x transport (a Saturn?)

advice: 1x transport (a Saturn?)

Post by Judy80 » Mon, 21 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Is any car too small to carry a single?  I am planning to purchase a car,
and want to be sure a single can eventually be transported on top of it.
Right now I am considering a Saturn, and I have never seen a single on
one.  I am also considering a Toyota Tercel, or a small pick-up truck.
Does anyone have any advice on guidelines to follow so I don't rule out a
single with the purchase of the wrong size car?  Thanks!
 
 
 

advice: 1x transport (a Saturn?)

Post by Kevin H Y » Tue, 22 Aug 1995 04:00:00

A friend of mine and I transported 2 singles and a double from Boston
to the Canadian Henley on his Saturn two weeks ago.  We had no
problems but they did stick out quite a ways...  I think the singles
hung out over the trunk by about 6 feet.  You're brake lights aren't
supposed to be more than 4 feet away form the very back, but we didn't
get pulled over :)  If one were concerned than another brake light
could be connected.  We put the boats on a ski rack on the roof and
tied the bows and sterns with rope to the bumpers.  So we went to a
little more effort than one would if a bigger car were being used.  So
transporting boats on a Saturn is possible and has been done...
Kevin Yeh


 
 
 

advice: 1x transport (a Saturn?)

Post by Amy Abb » Tue, 22 Aug 1995 04:00:00

I drive a VW Golf and carry my single on it all the time, and I have even
seen a Porche 911 with a 1x on top.

Aside from the legal implications of overhang, which can be substantial
both in distance and money, almost any vehicle can carry a single as long
as the boat is well supported.  I have a standard Thule  rack with the
load bars place about 3.5-4 feet apart.  This distance is too narrow to
properly support a boat for numberous or long trips.  Thus I have a
wooden rack about 5-6 feet long permanently bolted to my load bars.  The
side rails are 2x4s and the end pieces are flat 3/4" slabs with areas cut
to fit the chine of my decks.  Another alternative is to have web slings
on the end pieces.

The important thing is that the boat is supported fore and aft in front
of the splashboard and behind the stern combing.

Such a rig as described above is adaptable to about any car rack.

Cheers

Amy Abbot


 
 
 

advice: 1x transport (a Saturn?)

Post by Nick Buffinge » Tue, 22 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

>Is any car too small to carry a single?  I am planning to purchase a car,
>and want to be sure a single can eventually be transported on top of it.
>Right now I am considering a Saturn, and I have never seen a single on
>one.  I am also considering a Toyota Tercel, or a small pick-up truck.
>Does anyone have any advice on guidelines to follow so I don't rule out a
>single with the purchase of the wrong size car?  Thanks!

Well, I have to feel that selecting a car on this basis should score some
serious points on the rowing geek test (although I would be eligible for those
points myself) ;-)  If you want to cartop a single legally, its pretty tough
in many states (including CA, which is the only one I know for sure).  I have
a small pickup, and my boat is still a couple of feet too long to be actually
legal (although I'm pretty pleased with the way my rack carries the boat).  
I've seen a lot of boat rack-type carriers (essentially two slings on the ends
of a 8 or 9 foot long rod) that can be attached to roof racks, so that the
supports for the boat are well spaced and independent of the spacing of the
actual attachment to the car roof (so carrying the boat doesn't necessarily
depend on the length of the vehicle).  The other thing to think about is how
much you trust people behind you not to slam into the overhanging bits of your
boat (which makes cartopping in traffic ever so much fun).  

Nick
Stanford RC

 
 
 

advice: 1x transport (a Saturn?)

Post by Clyde W Voigtland » Tue, 22 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

> Is any car too small to carry a single?  I am planning to purchase a car,
> and want to be sure a single can eventually be transported on top of it.
> Right now I am considering a Saturn, and I have never seen a single on
> one.  I am also considering a Toyota Tercel, or a small pick-up truck.
> Does anyone have any advice on guidelines to follow so I don't rule out a
> single with the purchase of the wrong size car?  Thanks!

I don't know about guidelines, but we have transported two singles from
Oak Ridge, TN to Maine and Boston on the top of a 1988 Honda Prelude, with
no trouble (some considerable anxiety at times, though).  The real key, I
think, is to invest in a good car-top rack and a good rack for your shell.
Then, drive defensively, and be especially careful about where
you park.
--
C.W. Voigtlander

               Et clamor meus ad te veniat
 
 
 

advice: 1x transport (a Saturn?)

Post by D1Will » Thu, 24 Aug 1995 04:00:00

The question may be better framed as "how big does a car have to be to
legally transport a single?"  Many states have rules regarding the
overhang of an object on the roof -- so the longer the car, the less
overhang.  Some states even enforce these laws.   I have heard that
Canadian sculler Andrew Bellerby was stopped somewhere in the mid-east
seaboard by a highway patrolman who told him he could not continue through
the state with his single on top.  The story has a pleasant ending because
the trooper arranged for a trucker to put the boat in his empty trailer
and drop it back off on the other side of the state line!  Hope you have
similar good luck if ever stopped.

d Willis

 
 
 

advice: 1x transport (a Saturn?)

Post by drewt.. » Thu, 24 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Quote:




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> Is any car too small to carry a single?  I am planning to purchase a car,
> and want to be sure a single can eventually be transported on top of it.
> Right now I am considering a Saturn, and I have never seen a single on
> one.  I am also considering a Toyota Tercel, or a small pick-up truck.
> Does anyone have any advice on guidelines to follow so I don't rule out a
> single with the purchase of the wrong size car?  Thanks!

Well, I don't know if this answers your question but my novice coach
put a single on a porsche 911. fairly small. The true question is if
there is a roof rack that will fit on the Saturn. Know that the
Saturn Cycling team uses the cars to transport their bikes so
it only seems reasonable that a single with the correct rack will
fit. I know I'll be faced with the same question when I purchase
 my own single.

Andy
Ore State Crew '85-'88

 
 
 

advice: 1x transport (a Saturn?)

Post by PMckeon5 » Fri, 25 Aug 1995 04:00:00


<snip>
<We put the boats on a ski rack on the roof and>
<tied the bows and sterns with rope to the bumpers.  So we went to a>
<little more effort than one would if a bigger car were being used. >

I would strongly advise anyone transporting any shells on car top to
always tie the boats directly to the car, usually the bumpers.  This will
serve two purposes:  it will help keep the boats from whip-sawing in the
wind, and, more importantly, will keep the  boats from flying off should
the roof rack or boat rack come unattached.  

BTW, I once transported 3 brand-spanking new Peinert racing shells from
New Bedford, MA to Washington, DC on my Honda Accord hatchback with no
problems.  

 
 
 

advice: 1x transport (a Saturn?)

Post by MIKE JAQUET, 4951, AUBURN » Fri, 25 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Quote:
> If you want to cartop a single legally, its pretty tough
> in many states (including CA, which is the only one I know for sure).  I have
> a small pickup, and my boat is still a couple of feet too long to be actually
> legal (although I'm pretty pleased with the way my rack carries the boat).  

I'm probably wrong on this, but I think all you need to be legal is a red flag
on the end of anything sticking more than 3 feet past the end of your vehicle.

I find that a red bandana works well, and also helps following drivers to judge
where the end of your load is.  You do have to consider what the flag flapping
in the wind will do to whatever it is your hauling, in this case your boat.


 
 
 

advice: 1x transport (a Saturn?)

Post by Nick Buffinge » Sat, 26 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
>> If you want to cartop a single legally, its pretty tough
>> in many states (including CA, which is the only one I know for sure).  I have
>> a small pickup, and my boat is still a couple of feet too long to be actually
>> legal (although I'm pretty pleased with the way my rack carries the boat).  

>I'm probably wrong on this, but I think all you need to be legal is a red flag
>on the end of anything sticking more than 3 feet past the end of your vehicle.

[snip]



In CA, which is the only state that I've checked the statute on (although there must be
other states that are as regulation-happy as CA), you get 4 feet of overhang in the
front, and in the rear you can overhang 2/3 of the vehicle's wheelbase, with the
overhang measured from the rearmost support of boat (it works out to about 4 or 5 feet
on my truck).  I had a email conversation with a guy from Colorado, who found these
regulations bizarre, as I guess CO is a little more relaxed about these things.

Nick
Stanford RC
Still illegally cartopping

 
 
 

advice: 1x transport (a Saturn?)

Post by LotsofCa » Sat, 26 Aug 1995 04:00:00

The man who can fix you up with a rack for any car to carry a single is
Pete Gallo.  He owns Adirondack Rowing, he's wonderful to work with, and
he has a great set up.  I love mine.  Call him at 518 745-ROWW.  E-mail me
at aol for more info.....Lotsofcats