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Post by Lerrell Ki » Sun, 15 May 1994 06:39:51


|>
|> What do they say while trash speaking?
|>

Since everybody else is ridiculing you, I'll be different and actually tell you
the truth.  Basically they talk about three things that can be listed in
categories.  Your family, you and your game in general, and what they going to do to you.

Section 1: Your family.  This is where the ever popular you mama jokes came intoplay, i.e. Yo mama so fat, her shadow ways 40lbs, Yo mama so generous, she gave me the hair off her back, Yo mama so dirty, every time she showers, she loses
fif*** lbs, etc.  Or they speak of your family i.e. Your family is so poor     they go to Kentucky Fried Chicken to*** other peoples fingers, Yo daddy so
poor, he learned magic so he could pull foodstamps out of a hat, etc.  Sometimesit gets down right vulgar, though.  I won't go into that because this news-
group is supposed to rated PG.

Section 2:  You and your game.  They could talk about your b-ball gear i.e.
look at those ol' crusty WWII army boot look-alike shoes, them things are older
than ET t-shirt that your wearin'.  Or they could talk about the weaknesses in
your game i.e. Boy, your ain't got no J, you better drive cuz we don't have
any spare backboards to use, when your bricks break this one, or Why don't you
use that numb you call left every now and then, cuz you can't, or You can't     shoot, you can't dribble, all you do is foul, sorry scrub, go home.  All this isdesigned to annoy you into attempting to actual do what you are weakest at, i.e shooting, handling the ball, or whatever.

section 3:  What gonna' happen.  This is what Bird made famous.  He would talk
to whoever was planning to guard him before games.  He would predict where he  
felt hot from, and how many he was gonna score.  Then he actually do it.  There
was a story, where he told some guy that the game was gonna be close all the waythrough, but at the end he was gonna get the ball and shoot it from a certain  
spot (the spot was about 6 feet outside the arc, almost directly above the key).And the Celts were gonna, win by 1, when the end of the game came, everything
happened just as Bird had predicted so far.  With a couple of seconds left on
the clock, Larry ran to the spot.  The defender got their a split second after
the ball.  With the defender draped across him, he still attempted the shot and boston won by one.  

All of these things tend to remove a player from the mental aspect of the game, therefore, it gives the talker quite an advantage.  Any more questions about this just ask.  

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Post by Michael Uskudar » Mon, 16 May 1994 10:29:12

Quote:


>|>
>spot (the spot was about 6 feet outside the arc, almost directly above the key).And the Celts were gonna, win by 1, when the end of the game came, everything
>happened just as Bird had predicted so far.  With a couple of seconds left on
>the clock, Larry ran to the spot.  The defender got their a split second after
>the ball.  With the defender draped across him, he still attempted the shot and boston won by one.  

  Was that against X. Mc Daniel when he played for Seattle? (Right b4 a TO)

Quote:
>All of these things tend to remove a player from the mental aspect of the game, therefore, it gives the talker quite an advantage.  Any more questions about this just ask.  
>--

>"Another man just caught up in the mix,
>tryin' to make a dollar oughta' fif*** cents"

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Post by Jioug Ta » Tue, 17 May 1994 05:17:45


Quote:



>>|>

>>spot (the spot was about 6 feet outside the arc, almost directly above the key).And the Celts were gonna, win by 1, when the end of the game came, everything
>>happened just as Bird had predicted so far.  With a couple of seconds left on
>>the clock, Larry ran to the spot.  The defender got their a split second after
>>the ball.  With the defender draped across him, he still attempted the shot and boston won by one.  

>  Was that against X. Mc Daniel when he played for Seattle? (Right b4 a TO)

I believe you are right, however, the scenario was just a bit different
from the description above (the clip was recently shown on ESPN I believe,
and I watched it twice in slow motion).

Bird told X-man (X-man's own words) that he's going to "get the ball there,
shot the ball, and make the basket" as he came out of the TO.  Larry ran to
the spot, got the inbound, and X-man was on him.  Bird leaned in, pushed off
with his right elbow and made the fade away with about a second left on the
clock.

J.T.

 
 
 

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Post by Matt Smi » Wed, 18 May 1994 04:06:25

: section 3: What gonna' happen.  This is what Bird made famous.  He
: would talk to whoever was planning to guard him before games.  He
: would predict where he felt hot from, and how many he was gonna score.
: Then he actually do it.  There was a story, where he told some guy
: that the game was gonna be close all the waythrough, but at the end he
: was gonna get the ball and shoot it from a certain spot (the spot was
: about 6 feet outside the arc, almost directly above the key).And the
: Celts were gonna, win by 1, when the end of the game came, everything
: happened just as Bird had predicted so far.  With a couple of seconds
: left on the clock, Larry ran to the spot.  The defender got their a
: split second after the ball.  With the defender draped across him, he
: still attempted the shot and boston won by one.

XMan had an interview about Larry Bird earlier this year in which he
related a story which sounds strangely similar to this one.

The story was that Boston was down by 1 with time running out and
needed a basket, so they called a TO.  When they were done setting up
the play, Bird came out and said to X something along the lines of
"I'm getting the ball right here, I'm going to shoot it right over
you, I'm going to make it, and we're going to win."

He did, he did, he did, and they did.  

Bird was well known for his trash talking, as well as Jordan.


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Post by Tom Humm » Wed, 18 May 1994 23:51:10

George I decided to follow up on the net rather than e-mail, since I
intended my remarks to be in a public forum. I hope
you don't mind.

GEORGE BROZE says:

Quote:

> You say you heard Kermit's side of the story.  Di you see the incident?
> I did, many times.  Kermit Washington does not have my respect or
> admiration, nor does he deserve it.  He acted without thinking.  He
> swung without looking.  He almost killed a man.  This reeks of the
> same mentality as "I'm a good family man.  I go to church.  Sure,
> I got drunk and killed a family of four with my car, but they
> shouldn't suspend my driver's license!"  Actions have consequences.
> Even mistakes.

> George

Yes I have seen the incident did you?. Kermit certainly saw his target and was
standing squarely in front of Rudy as Rudy was running right at him ,
I by no means say Kermit did not act irresponsible.  This is not at all the
same as someone driving drunk. Fights happen all the time in sports, and in
the heat of the moment this can happen to anybody involved. Rudy has to bear
some responsibility for charging at Kermit ( or at least into the fight).
Most punches thrown in the NBA rarely hit squarely ( There big, but lousy
fighters) Kermits did. Kermit was wrong and paid a bigger price than anybody
has so far in the NBA, his action certainly had consequences and should have.
I still say you need to look at a mans whole career rather than one incident.

-Tom