****** Braves vs. Red Sox ******

****** Braves vs. Red Sox ******

Post by Shahram Hassansha » Thu, 01 Jul 1993 09:27:07


Does anybody aknowledge the fact that the Red Sox DO have a chance to be
a contender if They start hitting? Look what they have done these past seven
games. Their pitching is number one in the American Leage, so why not.
I mean everybody gives the Braves all the chances in the world because of
their pitching and they hit worst than the Sox! And don't tell me that
the Red Sox pitching statistics is a fluke because last year's numbers
comply with this year's.
So all you baseball fans who are on the Braves bandwagon, accept the reality
that a team like Red Sox has as much potential as your Braves.

 
 
 

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Post by Rich_Zalnerai.. » Fri, 02 Jul 1993 01:46:54


Quote:

>Does anybody aknowledge the fact that the Red Sox DO have a chance to be
>a contender if They start hitting? Look what they have done these past seven
>games. Their pitching is number one in the American Leage, so why not.  
>I mean everybody gives the Braves all the chances in the world because of
>their pitching and they hit worst than the Sox! And don't tell me that  
>the Red Sox pitching statistics is a fluke because last year's numbers
>comply with this year's.
>So all you baseball fans who are on the Braves bandwagon, accept the reality
>that a team like Red Sox has as much potential as your Braves.

You are kidding, aren't you.  Hey, I love the Red Sox as much as anyone, but
you are way off base in thinking the Bosox can play any better than .500
baseball this season.  In fact, .500 ball would be a monumental accomplishment
for this sorry excuse for a 1990's baseball team.

The team has got to be one of the worst defensive teams in the league.  It's  
not so much the errors they make, but their limited range in the infield and  
outfield makes them such a pourous team, that it's a miracle the pitching
staff has the excellent stats they do.  The staff should be congratulated on  
helping make this season respectable so far.

There are some great guys on this team, and the departure of Clark, Boggs,
Matt Young, and Jody Reed has been refreshing to say the least.  The problem
is, the Red Sox brass thinks that it's still 1975, and they insist on putting  
a bunch of big, slow, power-hitting type players out there in this day of
the athelete.  Yes, pitching is still the most important part of the game,
but if you don't have some speed and defense, you've got no chance.  Just
ask a Tiger fan to explain that.

I'm a fan forever, but they can't and won't win anything!

Rich Z.

 
 
 

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Post by David_P.. » Fri, 02 Jul 1993 03:10:51

Quote:


>>So all you baseball fans who are on the Braves bandwagon, accept the reality  
>>that a team like Red Sox has as much potential as your Braves.  

>You are kidding, aren't you.  Hey, I love the Red Sox as much as anyone, but  
>you are way off base in thinking the Bosox can play any better than .500  
>baseball this season.  In fact, .500 ball would be a monumental accomplishment  
>for this sorry excuse for a 1990's baseball team.  
>Rich Z.

In response to the Bo-Sox being a contender on their pitching staff alone. I
have to agree with Rich Z. This team does have a good pitching staff. As of  
the past weekend the third lowest ERA in all of baseball. This alone does not
win division titles. The Bo-Sox lack most of all the basic fundamentals in the
game, good defense, consistent clutch hitting and speed. With the cast of has
beens and s***iron that Lou Gorman has wasted millions on they will have a
tough time playing just above .500. When Lou leaves and the Sox get sold to
a more ambitious group that is interested in winning instead of the consistent
gate receipts at Fenway park to fill their pockets we may have a contenter.
I have been and always will be a diehard Sox fan my whole life, but I'm also
a realist. Get a grip and come down to earth.........

 
 
 

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Post by Michael Weinrau » Mon, 05 Jul 1993 11:34:50

Well being from Boston and a huge Sox fan, I would love it if
you were right.  However I think where the Braves have the
right idea is that you have to build from the bottom.  The
Braves have an incredible organization, whereas the Red Sox
have pretty weak foundations. The Atlantas and the Torontos,
and even good quality organizations (yes, Cleveland) almost
always are in better shape than the teams like Boston, who do
it all with mirrors.
 
 
 

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Post by Steven Thornt » Thu, 08 Jul 1993 19:04:10


: and even good quality organizations (yes, Cleveland) almost
: always are in better shape than the teams like Boston, who do
: it all with mirrors.

Here we have a typical Boston fan who thinks his team is the worst that
ever played, in the face of all evidence. In the last 16 years, being the
period in which the Mariners and Blue Jays have played, Boston has the
second-best record of any team.

1977-1992

1.  New York Yankees    1357    1176    .536    ----
2.  Boston Red Sox      1353    1180    .534    4
....
25. Cleveland Indians   1141    1385    .452    212.5
26. Seattle Mariners    1084    1452    .427    274.5

If you narrow it down to the last ten years, Boston falls all the way to
fifth (Toronto is first), still pretty good, while Cleveland claims last
place. The last five years? Boston is down to seventh, but still well over
.500. Cleveland is still last.

Cleveland has finished with a better record than Boston only once in this
period. Boston also has the highest worst-record of any team, last year's
.451, and have been the most consistent of any team in the majors
(smallest difference between best record and worst record).  Boston is the
only major league team that Seattle has never had a better record than (we
tied them in '87).

So explain to me how this translates to a) Cleveland is "usually in better
shape than" Boston, and b) Boston does it all with mirrors. Sure, you
aren't leading the league right now, nor are you particularly likely to
this year, and no, you haven't won a lot of World Series lately; but
Boston has been a great team and a perennial contender for a long
time now. It's harder to play well over a long season, and even
harder over 16 years, than it is to win a seven-game Series. Leave
the miserable whining to us, who need it to survive.

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