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Post by Paul J Pucket » Mon, 29 Dec 1997 04:00:00


UofL -79
UK   -76

God it's great to be back!!!!   Also, to all the folks from down in
Manchester and Harlan that I'm sure called the UK post game radio
show, don't jump on Tubby, he just got beat by one of the best.  In
reality, I think UofL was due to get their proverbial sheist together, and
it just happened to be against uk in corRuppt Arena.  Hopefully they'll
avoid a letdown similar to the last time they beat uk when they dropped
one to VCU.  Who knows...

Jason Puckett (aka G Ride)
University of Louisville-'97
(http://www.louisville.edu/~pjpuck01/)
GO CARDS!!!  BEAT SEMO!!!

UofL- 79
UK  - 76

 
 
 

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Post by john shadl » Mon, 29 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> God it's great to be back!!!!   Also, to all the folks from down in
> Manchester and Harlan that I'm sure called the UK post game radio
> show, don't jump on Tubby, he just got beat by one of the best.  In
> reality, I think UofL was due to get their proverbial sheist together, and
> it just happened to be against uk in corRuppt Arena.  Hopefully they'll
> avoid a letdown similar to the last time they beat uk when they dropped
> one to VCU.  Who knows...

whoa pardner,
        UofL is still 4-6.  hardly "back" by any means.  yes, UK did get
whipped in the late-going of the game...but they were almost back in it.  
the Cards still have a lot of work to do to get back to the top 25 and
even in contention for a NCAA spot.  i know it's early, and that this win
will probably help the confidence of the young backcourt that Louisville
has, but they are not "back" yet...

john

        "scattered, smothered, covered, chunked, topped, and diced..."

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Post by Daryl Wa » Mon, 29 Dec 1997 04:00:00

They may be 4-6 but those 6 losses were all to top 25 teams in December.
 And only 2 of them were actually considered blowouts.  (Purdue and
Arkansas both at home.)  They lost to Ga tech twice by a total of 12
pts.  Ole miss by 4, and UNC by 9 with Maybin missing all but 8 minutes
of that game.   Now they have a quality win over uk on the road.  So  
you woaa there, EVERYONE that knows Cardinal basketball knows that Denny
always plays tough schedules early and usually takes his lumps, but, by
Jan - March his teams are ready for The Dance because of it!  This year
will be no exception.  While other Colleges are padding those win totals
by playing St Leo and American U (no offense guys) UL is playing top 20
teams and getting used to that level of competition.  It shows come
tournament time.  You can't argue with success 617 wins 6 final fours,
Hall of Fame, 5 Sweet 16 appearances in the last 6 years. A Elite 8 last
year and all that through probation, transfers, academic
ineligibilities, NBA defections, and lesser recruiting.  Wait till they
get a few breaks on recruiting and etc,  We WILL be back on top!  By the
way see you in March,  Again!

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Quote:


>> God it's great to be back!!!!   Also, to all the folks from down in
>> Manchester and Harlan that I'm sure called the UK post game radio
>> show, don't jump on Tubby, he just got beat by one of the best.  In
>> reality, I think UofL was due to get their proverbial sheist
together, and
>> it just happened to be against uk in corRuppt Arena.  Hopefully
they'll
>> avoid a letdown similar to the last time they beat uk when they
dropped
>> one to VCU.  Who knows...

>whoa pardner,
>        UofL is still 4-6.  hardly "back" by any means.  yes, UK did
get
>whipped in the late-going of the game...but they were almost back in
it.  
>the Cards still have a lot of work to do to get back to the top 25 and
>even in contention for a NCAA spot.  i know it's early, and that this
win
>will probably help the confidence of the young backcourt that
Louisville
>has, but they are not "back" yet...

>john

>        "scattered, smothered, covered, chunked, topped, and diced..."

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Post by Donnie Barn » Mon, 29 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
>They may be 4-6 but those 6 losses were all to top 25 teams in December.

Which probably means they aren't even a top 25 team.

Quote:
> And only 2 of them were actually considered blowouts.  (Purdue and
>Arkansas both at home.)  

Arkansas was a flash in the pan...they lost to American Puerto Rico
for goodnesssakes.  Oh, and Marshall, I believe (not to mention other
losses...).

Quote:
>They lost to Ga tech twice by a total of 12
>pts.  Ole miss by 4, and UNC by 9 with Maybin missing all but 8 minutes
>of that game.  

UNC hasn't blown hardly anyone out.  Louisville has proven against UNC
and Kentucky that they *can* be a good team.  But their 4-6 record
proves they are *not* a good team yet.  You have to do it night in and
night out, not just get up for big games, you know.

Quote:
>Now they have a quality win over uk on the road.  So  
>you woaa there, EVERYONE that knows Cardinal basketball knows that Denny
>always plays tough schedules early and usually takes his lumps, but, by
>Jan - March his teams are ready for The Dance because of it!  This year
>will be no exception.  

They'll be in the tournament most likely, but don't count on going past
the sweet six***...

Quote:
>While other Colleges are padding those win totals
>by playing St Leo and American U (no offense guys) UL is playing top 20
>teams and getting used to that level of competition.  It shows come
>tournament time.  You can't argue with success 617 wins 6 final fours,
>Hall of Fame, 5 Sweet 16 appearances in the last 6 years. A Elite 8 last
>year and all that through probation, transfers, academic
>ineligibilities, NBA defections, and lesser recruiting.  Wait till they
>get a few breaks on recruiting and etc,  We WILL be back on top!  By the
>way see you in March,  Again!

Crum is a good coach and will remain a good coach, no doubt.  But UL
is *down* right now and to say "we're back" just isn't a good assessment
*especially* in light of all the stuff you just named above.  This isn't
a final four team...of course, neither was Arizona last year, so anything
can happen.  I certainly wouldn't put money on them.

--Donnie

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Post by Michael L. Lern » Mon, 29 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

>>They may be 4-6 but those 6 losses were all to top 25 teams in December.
>Which probably means they aren't even a top 25 team.

They've been pounded by the toughest out of conference schedule in the
country.  UCLA and Syracuse are still to come.  Their 6 losses are
deceiving.

Quote:
>Arkansas was a flash in the pan...they lost to American Puerto Rico
>for goodnesssakes.  Oh, and Marshall, I believe (not to mention other
>losses...).

Arkansas had a bad week on a vacation trip.  I bet no one is looking
forward to playing them as an easy win, on their schedule.

Quote:
>UNC hasn't blown hardly anyone out.  Louisville has proven against UNC

 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

UNC is the best team in the country right now, and who knows, they may
go unbeaten.  The fact that UofL has played 3 top 10 teams already
along with the rest of their schedule says enough.  You can pick apart
details, but overall the summary statement holds: Louisville plays the
toughest OOC schedule, they take more losses than a lot of other teams
would be willing to face at this point in the season.  Whether it pays
off this year is yet to be seen.

Quote:
>They'll be in the tournament most likely, but don't count on going past
>the sweet six***...

What a horror that would be, "only" making the Sweet 16.  That's the
realistic goal of almost every team!

Quote:
>Crum is a good coach and will remain a good coach, no doubt.  But UL
>is *down* right now and to say "we're back" just isn't a good assessment

Crum is a GREAT coach.  He's in the Hall of Fame.  And, I don't see
why you contend Louisville is "down" because they got off to a bad
start in the W-L column.  I know that people who hate UofL have been
enjoying the pounding they have been taking, and are ready to declare
that their season is over early.  But I don't see it as a "down" year
until the full results are in.  Compared against the rebuilding job
Crum has done in the past 5 years, I think we can give him the benefit
of the doubt and see how it plays out.  Making the Tournament will be
a challenge, since Louisville has to play Marquette twice, UCLA,
Syracuse, Cincy twice.  They will have to pull a lot more upsets, on
the road, to get their season totally turned around.  Hopefully the
tough OOC schedule will give them the confidence to win.

Mike

 
 
 

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Post by Daryl Wa » Mon, 29 Dec 1997 04:00:00

There you go again a typical UK fan. I merely made the statement that UL
has played the toughest non conference schedule of ANY team in America
this December, and to say that they won't make the tournament because
they have a poor record vs top 25 teams in December is assinine to say
the least. Like I said before, anyone who knows anthing about Cardinal
basketball knows that UL teams traditionally start slow, take their
lumps early, and finish strong.  You being a UK fan, you totally twisted
the whole thing around to make it look bad.  Sheesh, Clinton needs more
spin doctors like you! Bye the way We'll see how uk fares against
Arkansas in Fayetteville this year.  Pitino is gone, UL won, get over
it. Stop trying to bash UL at every opportunity, That's whate Forde,
Bolzich, Cowgill, and Cruise (all local media who see the world through
blue colored glasses) are for. And lastly anthing can happen in college
basketball, I'll take my chances with Crum in the Sweet 16 (again).  
When he gets some horses to play again, instead of the mediocre talent
he has had lately (and still goes to sweet 16 and Elite8) THEN we will
be back.  I didn't say we WERE back yet, but we WILL be.  Clear enough?
 One things for sure we won't be outcoached, so we will always have a
chance.  So Happy New year Donnie, Take those blue colored glasses off
as a New Year's resolution, there's a whole other world out there!



Quote:

>>They may be 4-6 but those 6 losses were all to top 25 teams in
December.

>Which probably means they aren't even a top 25 team.

>> And only 2 of them were actually considered blowouts.  (Purdue and
>>Arkansas both at home.)  

>Arkansas was a flash in the pan...they lost to American Puerto Rico
>for goodnesssakes.  Oh, and Marshall, I believe (not to mention other
>losses...).

>>They lost to Ga tech twice by a total of 12
>>pts.  Ole miss by 4, and UNC by 9 with Maybin missing all but 8
minutes
>>of that game.  

>UNC hasn't blown hardly anyone out.  Louisville has proven against UNC
>and Kentucky that they *can* be a good team.  But their 4-6 record
>proves they are *not* a good team yet.  You have to do it night in and
>night out, not just get up for big games, you know.

>>Now they have a quality win over uk on the road.  So  
>>you woaa there, EVERYONE that knows Cardinal basketball knows that
Denny
>>always plays tough schedules early and usually takes his lumps, but,
by
>>Jan - March his teams are ready for The Dance because of it!  This
year
>>will be no exception.  

>They'll be in the tournament most likely, but don't count on going past
>the sweet six***...

>>While other Colleges are padding those win totals
>>by playing St Leo and American U (no offense guys) UL is playing top
20
>>teams and getting used to that level of competition.  It shows come
>>tournament time.  You can't argue with success 617 wins 6 final fours,
>>Hall of Fame, 5 Sweet 16 appearances in the last 6 years. A Elite 8
last
>>year and all that through probation, transfers, academic
>>ineligibilities, NBA defections, and lesser recruiting.  Wait till
they
>>get a few breaks on recruiting and etc,  We WILL be back on top!  By
the
>>way see you in March,  Again!

>Crum is a good coach and will remain a good coach, no doubt.  But UL
>is *down* right now and to say "we're back" just isn't a good
assessment
>*especially* in light of all the stuff you just named above.  This
isn't
>a final four team...of course, neither was Arizona last year, so
anything
>can happen.  I certainly wouldn't put money on them.

>--Donnie

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Post by Donnie Barn » Mon, 29 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
>>Arkansas was a flash in the pan...they lost to American Puerto Rico
>>for goodnesssakes.  Oh, and Marshall, I believe (not to mention other
>>losses...).

>Arkansas had a bad week on a vacation trip.  I bet no one is looking
>forward to playing them as an easy win, on their schedule.

They are a decent team, but to claim them as a top notch team and
say that a loss to them doesn't mean much is silly.

Quote:
>>UNC hasn't blown hardly anyone out.  Louisville has proven against UNC
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>UNC is the best team in the country right now, and who knows, they may
>go unbeaten.  

Hah!  All it takes is one injury and they could start dropping games
like crazy.  Even healthy they will lose at least one game this season
(Cameron is a given, I think).

Quote:
>The fact that UofL has played 3 top 10 teams already
>along with the rest of their schedule says enough.  You can pick apart
>details, but overall the summary statement holds: Louisville plays the
>toughest OOC schedule, they take more losses than a lot of other teams
>would be willing to face at this point in the season.  Whether it pays
>off this year is yet to be seen.

Yep, but one win over KU still isn't enough to say "we're back" given
all those other losses.  If they were 7-3 or maybe even 6-4 with tough
losses you might have a claim.

Quote:
>>They'll be in the tournament most likely, but don't count on going past
>>the sweet six***...

>What a horror that would be, "only" making the Sweet 16.  That's the
>realistic goal of almost every team!

Uh, it's only two tourney wins.  And again, in the context of "we're
back" for a team who's had all those final four appearances that would
be a let down to not make the sweet six***.  

Quote:
>>Crum is a good coach and will remain a good coach, no doubt.  But UL
>>is *down* right now and to say "we're back" just isn't a good assessment

>Crum is a GREAT coach.  He's in the Hall of Fame.  And, I don't see
>why you contend Louisville is "down" because they got off to a bad
>start in the W-L column.  I know that people who hate UofL have been
>enjoying the pounding they have been taking, and are ready to declare
>that their season is over early.  But I don't see it as a "down" year
>until the full results are in.  Compared against the rebuilding job

They are down right *now*.  They could come back and have a great year.
They could flop.  But they are not "back" yet.

Quote:
>Crum has done in the past 5 years, I think we can give him the benefit
>of the doubt and see how it plays out.  Making the Tournament will be
>a challenge, since Louisville has to play Marquette twice, UCLA,
>Syracuse, Cincy twice.  They will have to pull a lot more upsets, on
>the road, to get their season totally turned around.  Hopefully the
>tough OOC schedule will give them the confidence to win.

Hopefully so...I kinda like Louisville and am not trying to bash them.
I'm just saying that thinking they are for sure "back" right now to
top 20 form is in no way a given.  They still have things to prove,
as you point out.  I guess your confusion stems from the way I used
"down".  You're right, it is too early (especially given that OOC
schedule) to claim the whole year as "down".  But they are down right
now and have quite a whole to dig out from under if they want to be
in the tourney and be a contender in every game.  

--Donnie

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Post by Donnie Barn » Mon, 29 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
>There you go again a typical UK fan.

Hah!  I'm no UK fan at all!  I'm a UNC fan first and foremost and a much
bigger UL fan than a UK one.

Quote:
>I merely made the statement that UL
>has played the toughest non conference schedule of ANY team in America
>this December, and to say that they won't make the tournament because
>they have a poor record vs top 25 teams in December is assinine to say
>the least.

Well, I certainly never said that either.  You're arguing with ghosts.

Quote:
>Like I said before, anyone who knows anthing about Cardinal
>basketball knows that UL teams traditionally start slow, take their
>lumps early, and finish strong.  You being a UK fan, you totally twisted
>the whole thing around to make it look bad.  

Again, I'm not a UK fan, but I think you twisted one win into something
more than it was.  

Quote:
>Sheesh, Clinton needs more spin doctors like you!

I think he's got enough of his own.

Quote:
>Bye the way We'll see how uk fares against
>Arkansas in Fayetteville this year.  

Hmm...I guess I'd have to pull for UK, but I don't care for either
team too much.

Quote:
>Pitino is gone,

Really?  I hadn't noticed.  Duh.

Quote:
>UL won, get over
>it. Stop trying to bash UL at every opportunity, That's whate Forde,
>Bolzich, Cowgill, and Cruise (all local media who see the world through
>blue colored glasses) are for.

Oh, so that's why you're so defensive.  Wake up...I'm not bashing them.

Quote:
>And lastly anthing can happen in college
>basketball, I'll take my chances with Crum in the Sweet 16 (again).  

I hope to see UL there.

Quote:
>When he gets some horses to play again, instead of the mediocre talent
>he has had lately (and still goes to sweet 16 and Elite8) THEN we will
>be back.  I didn't say we WERE back yet, but we WILL be.  Clear enough?

Yeah, now it is.  I'm glad you've come to the realization that this one
win doesn't mean you're "back", though.

Quote:
> One things for sure we won't be outcoached, so we will always have a
>chance.  So Happy New year Donnie, Take those blue colored glasses off
>as a New Year's resolution, there's a whole other world out there!

Well, you've got the color right at least...different shade, though.
Now get that chip off your shoulder and quit thinking everyone is out
to get you...

--Donnie

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Post by Michael L. Lern » Mon, 29 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

>>UNC is the best team in the country right now, and who knows, they may
>>go unbeaten.  
>Hah!  All it takes is one injury and they could start dropping games
>like crazy.  Even healthy they will lose at least one game this season
>(Cameron is a given, I think).

OK.  So I have you narrowed down to either being a Duke fan, or a
self-deprecating UNC fan. ;)

Quote:
>Yep, but one win over KU still isn't enough to say "we're back" given
>all those other losses.  If they were 7-3 or maybe even 6-4 with tough
>losses you might have a claim.

Well, it's hard to tell where the season will go from here.  My point
is, that even if UL has a down year at the end, they are still "back"
from where they were 5 years ago.

Quote:
>Uh, it's only two tourney wins.  And again, in the context of "we're
>back" for a team who's had all those final four appearances that would
>be a let down to not make the sweet six***.  

OK, you MUST be a Duke or UNC fan.  No one else can laugh off a Sweet
16 as the mundane. ;)

Quote:
>"down".  You're right, it is too early (especially given that OOC
>schedule) to claim the whole year as "down".  But they are down right
>now and have quite a whole to dig out from under if they want to be
>in the tourney and be a contender in every game.  

Yeah, it's way to early to say how the season will go.  They still
have a tough schedule ahead.  But even if they come out on the wrong
side of the Bubble, I don't think the program is down, it'd just be a
down year.  Maybe we should retire "down" and come up with a new
descriptive phrase.

Mike

 
 
 

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Post by Daryl Wa » Tue, 30 Dec 1997 04:00:00

My apologies Donnie, but with the media bias here in Louisville and all
the arrogant uk fans around we UL fans have become quite defensive.  Go
Cards!



Quote:

>>There you go again a typical UK fan.

>Hah!  I'm no UK fan at all!  I'm a UNC fan first and foremost and a
much
>bigger UL fan than a UK one.

>>I merely made the statement that UL
>>has played the toughest non conference schedule of ANY team in America
>>this December, and to say that they won't make the tournament because
>>they have a poor record vs top 25 teams in December is assinine to say
>>the least.

>Well, I certainly never said that either.  You're arguing with ghosts.

>>Like I said before, anyone who knows anthing about Cardinal
>>basketball knows that UL teams traditionally start slow, take their
>>lumps early, and finish strong.  You being a UK fan, you totally
twisted
>>the whole thing around to make it look bad.  

>Again, I'm not a UK fan, but I think you twisted one win into something
>more than it was.  

>>Sheesh, Clinton needs more spin doctors like you!

>I think he's got enough of his own.

>>Bye the way We'll see how uk fares against
>>Arkansas in Fayetteville this year.  

>Hmm...I guess I'd have to pull for UK, but I don't care for either
>team too much.

>>Pitino is gone,

>Really?  I hadn't noticed.  Duh.

>>UL won, get over
>>it. Stop trying to bash UL at every opportunity, That's whate Forde,
>>Bolzich, Cowgill, and Cruise (all local media who see the world
through
>>blue colored glasses) are for.

>Oh, so that's why you're so defensive.  Wake up...I'm not bashing them.

>>And lastly anthing can happen in college
>>basketball, I'll take my chances with Crum in the Sweet 16 (again).  

>I hope to see UL there.

>>When he gets some horses to play again, instead of the mediocre talent
>>he has had lately (and still goes to sweet 16 and Elite8) THEN we will
>>be back.  I didn't say we WERE back yet, but we WILL be.  Clear
enough?

>Yeah, now it is.  I'm glad you've come to the realization that this one
>win doesn't mean you're "back", though.

>> One things for sure we won't be outcoached, so we will always have a
>>chance.  So Happy New year Donnie, Take those blue colored glasses off
>>as a New Year's resolution, there's a whole other world out there!

>Well, you've got the color right at least...different shade, though.
>Now get that chip off your shoulder and quit thinking everyone is out
>to get you...

>--Donnie

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Post by Wes Morga » Tue, 30 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> God it's great to be back!!!!  

It was obviously a upset, and a big win for Louisville, but let's
not look at one game and say "they're back!"

UK's 10-2 record doesn't mean that they're a Top 10 team; neither
does UL's 4-6 record mean that they're "back."  UL has played a
horrendous non-conference schedule, to be sure, but they still have
some serious concerns to address before March.  This is, of course,
Crum's usual tack - beat the tar out of your team in December and
reap the profits in March - so the Cards should be in the thick of
the fight for a middle-ground NCAA seeding.

Quote:
> Also, to all the folks from down in
> Manchester and Harlan that I'm sure called the UK post game radio
> show, don't jump on Tubby, he just got beat by one of the best.  

I wouldn't go quite that far.  I think that UK beat themselves with
horrendous shooting.  I didn't get to watch the game live, but a
quick scroll through the tape showed UK missing *WIDE*-open shots
throughout the game.  Padgett shot an 0-fer, I think, and the whole
team was just tossing brick after brick.  UL's defense wasn't that
good, since UK kept getting open shots; the Cats just couldn't hit
the broad side of the proverbial barn.  Didn't UK shoot under 40%
for the game?

Smith has been getting some heat, most of it completely undeserved.
The only facet of his coaching I don't understand right now is his
seeming preference for Smith/Magloire over Turner/Mohammed.  The
former tandem saw about 10 minutes' more PT than the latter, but
the latter is far more productive.  I don't quite understand Smith's
approach there, but I'm comfortable in waiting to see.

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> In reality, I think UofL was due to get their proverbial sheist together,
> and it just happened to be against uk in corRuppt Arena.  

True enough - and coupling that with UK's woeful shooting gave the
Cards a nice Christmas present.  

It's kind of humorous to see your reference to "corRuppt Arena," given
that UL has spent more time arguing for leniency from the NCAA in recent
years than has UK.  If memory serves, this year's UL culprit was the
women's volleyball team; their dozen NCAA violations came on the heels
of twice-in-two-years self-reported violations by the men's basketball
team.  

--Wes

 
 
 

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Post by Bra » Tue, 30 Dec 1997 04:00:00


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>> God it's great to be back!!!!  

>I wouldn't go quite that far.  I think that UK beat themselves with
>horrendous shooting.  I didn't get to watch the game live, but a
>quick scroll through the tape showed UK missing *WIDE*-open shots
>throughout the game.  Padgett shot an 0-fer, I think, and the whole
>team was just tossing brick after brick.  UL's defense wasn't that
>good, since UK kept getting open shots; the Cats just couldn't hit
>the broad side of the proverbial barn.  Didn't UK shoot under 40%
>for the game?

Wes, do you think that possibly great defense leads to poor shooting?
The cards BEAT the cats this time with an amazing second half of
basketball.  NUFF SAID

Brad

 
 
 

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Post by DeBew.. » Wed, 31 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


> >>They may be 4-6 but those 6 losses were all to top 25 teams in December.

> >Which probably means they aren't even a top 25 team.

> They've been pounded by the toughest out of conference schedule in the
> country.  UCLA and Syracuse are still to come.  Their 6 losses are
> deceiving.

> >Arkansas was a flash in the pan...they lost to American Puerto Rico
> >for goodnesssakes.  Oh, and Marshall, I believe (not to mention other
> >losses...).

> Arkansas had a bad week on a vacation trip.  I bet no one is looking
> forward to playing them as an easy win, on their schedule.

> >UNC hasn't blown hardly anyone out.  Louisville has proven against UNC
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> UNC is the best team in the country right now, and who knows, they may
> go unbeaten.  The fact that UofL has played 3 top 10 teams already
> along with the rest of their schedule says enough.  You can pick apart
> details, but overall the summary statement holds: Louisville plays the
> toughest OOC schedule, they take more losses than a lot of other teams
> would be willing to face at this point in the season.  Whether it pays
> off this year is yet to be seen.

> >They'll be in the tournament most likely, but don't count on going past
> >the sweet six***...

> What a horror that would be, "only" making the Sweet 16.  That's the
> realistic goal of almost every team!

> >Crum is a good coach and will remain a good coach, no doubt.  But UL
> >is *down* right now and to say "we're back" just isn't a good assessment

> Crum is a GREAT coach.  He's in the Hall of Fame.  And, I don't see
> why you contend Louisville is "down" because they got off to a bad
> start in the W-L column.  I know that people who hate UofL have been
> enjoying the pounding they have been taking, and are ready to declare
> that their season is over early.  But I don't see it as a "down" year
> until the full results are in.  Compared against the rebuilding job
> Crum has done in the past 5 years, I think we can give him the benefit
> of the doubt and see how it plays out.  Making the Tournament will be
> a challenge, since Louisville has to play Marquette twice, UCLA,
> Syracuse, Cincy twice.  They will have to pull a lot more upsets, on
> the road, to get their season totally turned around.  Hopefully the
> tough OOC schedule will give them the confidence to win.

> Mike

  Really Mike, "toughest non-conference schedule". Suggest you check the
Sagarin ratings at www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/skm/skmjs.htm .
Louisville is not even in the top fifty as far as the toughness of their
schedue thus far. Kentucky played below themselves.... Louisville played
above themselves. Those things happen in college basketball. Don't count
on a repeat in March though.

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Post by Thomas Carpent » Wed, 31 Dec 1997 04:00:00

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>  Really Mike, "toughest non-conference schedule". Suggest you check the
>Sagarin ratings at www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/skm/skmjs.htm .
>Louisville is not even in the top fifty as far as the toughness of their
>schedue thus far. Kentucky played below themselves.... Louisville played
>above themselves. Those things happen in college basketball. Don't count
>on a repeat in March though.
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I think I would trust an index like the RPI for strength of schedule
instead of a biased rating like Sagarins' (I mean, no matter how bad
IU is they usually have a high Sagarin rating!).

I will admit that I haven't checked the RPI lately, but I would be
willing to bet that UL's OOC is one of the toughest in that index.

Tom

 
 
 

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Post by Daryl Wa » Fri, 02 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Is this the same Sagarin that that the NCAA won't use to judge
selections for the tounament in March? Instead using RPI. I thought so.
 UL has played SEVEN games against top 25 teams in the month of
December. They played #1 UNC, # 4 UK, #5 Purdue, Arkansas, Ole Miss, and
Ga tech twice.  I dought (very seriously) that you will be able to find
few if any teams who have played that tough a non-conference schedule in
December ( although you'll more than probably try.  So to heck with
Sagarin,  He's nothing but a MIT mathamatician anyway.  What the heck
does that have to do with basketball anyway.   Oh, and by the way. I'm
looking very much foreward to a possible rematch in March, though I
doubt the outcome would change.  UL outhustled UK at Rupp.  They wanted
it more, and it showed.  Had they hit their freethrows at the end it
wouldn't even have been close (10 or more).  So go cry in your beer UK
fans, and we'll see you next year at the Hall.  Talk about sore loosers,
and yes I'm rubbin it in, just the way obnoxious UK fans would have if
they had one.  The only defference is that we UL fans wouldn't cry and
try to belitte UK's accomplishments.  Well some of us anyway.  Happy New
Year, Go Cards!


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>> >>They may be 4-6 but those 6 losses were all to top 25 teams in
December.

>> >Which probably means they aren't even a top 25 team.

>> They've been pounded by the toughest out of conference schedule in
the
>> country.  UCLA and Syracuse are still to come.  Their 6 losses are
>> deceiving.

>> >Arkansas was a flash in the pan...they lost to American Puerto Rico
>> >for goodnesssakes.  Oh, and Marshall, I believe (not to mention
other
>> >losses...).

>> Arkansas had a bad week on a vacation trip.  I bet no one is looking
>> forward to playing them as an easy win, on their schedule.

>> >UNC hasn't blown hardly anyone out.  Louisville has proven against
UNC
>>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>> UNC is the best team in the country right now, and who knows, they
may
>> go unbeaten.  The fact that UofL has played 3 top 10 teams already
>> along with the rest of their schedule says enough.  You can pick
apart
>> details, but overall the summary statement holds: Louisville plays
the
>> toughest OOC schedule, they take more losses than a lot of other
teams
>> would be willing to face at this point in the season.  Whether it
pays
>> off this year is yet to be seen.

>> >They'll be in the tournament most likely, but don't count on going
past
>> >the sweet six***...

>> What a horror that would be, "only" making the Sweet 16.  That's the
>> realistic goal of almost every team!

>> >Crum is a good coach and will remain a good coach, no doubt.  But UL
>> >is *down* right now and to say "we're back" just isn't a good
assessment

>> Crum is a GREAT coach.  He's in the Hall of Fame.  And, I don't see
>> why you contend Louisville is "down" because they got off to a bad
>> start in the W-L column.  I know that people who hate UofL have been
>> enjoying the pounding they have been taking, and are ready to declare
>> that their season is over early.  But I don't see it as a "down" year
>> until the full results are in.  Compared against the rebuilding job
>> Crum has done in the past 5 years, I think we can give him the
benefit
>> of the doubt and see how it plays out.  Making the Tournament will be
>> a challenge, since Louisville has to play Marquette twice, UCLA,
>> Syracuse, Cincy twice.  They will have to pull a lot more upsets, on
>> the road, to get their season totally turned around.  Hopefully the
>> tough OOC schedule will give them the confidence to win.

>> Mike

>  Really Mike, "toughest non-conference schedule". Suggest you check
the
>Sagarin ratings at www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/skm/skmjs.htm .
>Louisville is not even in the top fifty as far as the toughness of
their
>schedue thus far. Kentucky played below themselves.... Louisville
played
>above themselves. Those things happen in college basketball. Don't
count
>on a repeat in March though.

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