McThang's "All-Time Greatest Hitter" playoff

McThang's "All-Time Greatest Hitter" playoff

Post by Neal Trave » Mon, 18 May 1992 14:19:02



Quote:

>Is there anyone who does *not* think that the Final Four will be Ruth,
>Gehrig, Foxx, and Williams?

Hornsby might edge Foxx, though his lack of walks might hurt him.  The Rajah
had *pretty good* power along with that .358 BA.

That bracket is the only one where the RH hitters dominate.  Note also that
Koufax is the *only* LHP on the staff, a distinct advantage for any LH
hitters.  [As if Gehrig, Ruth, and Williams *need* that advantage...]

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McThang's "All-Time Greatest Hitter" playoff

Post by David M Ta » Mon, 18 May 1992 13:47:44

Have any of the rest of you been following with amu***t the "All-Time
Greatest Hitter Playoffs" in USA Today Baseball Weekly?  Essentially,
they've specially-created Strat-O-Matic 3.0 cards for 32 famous hitters,
and are playing computer "seasons" against an all-star pitching staff of
Walter Johnson, Bob Feller, Cy Young, Sandy Koufax, Jim Palmer, Bob Gibson,
Tom Seaver, Nolan Ryan, Christy Mathewson, and Ed Walsh.  (That's right;
they left off the best pitcher in history...).  Each game picks one
pitcher, and 9 of Player A bat for one time, while 9 of Player B bat
for the other.

When the contest started, I filled in a "for-kicks" guess at what the
final results would be.  This week was my first miss: Joe DiMaggio beat
Mike Schmidt by 91 games to 71.  Personally, I think this points to an
insufficient era adjustment in making up the cards, but that could just
be sour grapes :^).

The original pairings were:

        Babe Ruth                               Lou Gehrig
        Pete Rose                               Rod Carew

        Eddie Collins                           Willie Mays
        Hack Wilson                             Johnny Mize

        Mickey Mantle                           Joe DiMaggio
        Harmon Killebrew                        Mike Schmidt

        Willie McCovey                          Enos Slaughter
        Tris Speaker                            Hank Greenberg

        Jimmie Foxx                             Ty Cobb
        Willie Stargell                         Joe Morgan

        Hank Aaron                              Honus Wagner
        Mel Ott                                 Stan Musial

        Harry Heilmann                          Ralph Kiner
        Frank Robinson                          Jackie Robinson

        Carl Yastrzemski                        Reggie Jackson
        Rogers Hornsby                          Ted Williams

So far, Ruth has annihilated Rose (anyone surprised?), Gehrig has trounced
Carew, Collins beat Wilson handily, Mays stomped Mize, Mantle clubbed Killer,
Speaker ousted McCovey, and (to my chagrin) DiMaggio beat Schmidt.

I have to say that the choice of contestants has some pretty bizarre aspects.
Enos Slaughter, but not Paul Waner?  Harmon Killebrew, but not Duke Snider?
Rod Carew, but not Nap Lajoie?  Hack Wilson, but not*** Allen?

I'm also personally offended that two of the three contestants for "Best
Hitter in NL History" are up against each other in the first round (Wagner
and Musial; Hornsby is the other), and then have to face Cobb in the next
round.  Unfair!  I'd have liked to see an AL/NL split in the brackets, with
the AL and NL champs meeting for the title.

Is there anyone who does *not* think that the Final Four will be Ruth,
Gehrig, Foxx, and Williams?

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McThang's "All-Time Greatest Hitter" playoff

Post by Ted Fra » Tue, 19 May 1992 01:33:05


Quote:

>>Is there anyone who does *not* think that the Final Four will be Ruth,
>>Gehrig, Foxx, and Williams?

>Hornsby might edge Foxx, though his lack of walks might hurt him.  The Rajah
>had *pretty good* power along with that .358 BA.

>That bracket is the only one where the RH hitters dominate.  Note also that
>Koufax is the *only* LHP on the staff, a distinct advantage for any LH
>hitters.  [As if Gehrig, Ruth, and Williams *need* that advantage...]

Does SOM 3.0 include lefty-righty adjustments for players that far back?
The board game didn't, at least it didn't ten years ago which was the last
time I played it.
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McThang's "All-Time Greatest Hitter" playoff

Post by David DeMe » Tue, 19 May 1992 05:52:03


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>Is there anyone who does *not* think that the Final Four will be Ruth,
>Gehrig, Foxx, and Williams?

Actually, Hornsby has a chance to beat Foxx; depending on how they do their
era adjustments...

Greenberg will be a BIG winner his first round, but can't beat Williams.

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