Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Post by brin » Wed, 04 Aug 2004 07:35:56


roger clemens?  nahhh, couldn't be!  ;-)

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/7545999

CRAIG, Colo. -- Houston Astros pitcher Roger Clemens was asked to leave a
youth baseball game over the weekend for arguing a close call that went
against his son's team.

Clemens was at the game Saturday watching his son, Kacy, compete in a
10-and-under game organized by Triple Crown Sports when Clemens contested a
call at second base that went against the Katy Cowboys.

He spit sunflower seeds at an umpire's leg and was asked to leave, said Jim
Carpenter, a field supervisor with Triple Crown.

 
 
 

Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Post by Ryan Robbin » Wed, 04 Aug 2004 09:06:39

It was not a Little League game.


Quote:
> roger clemens?  nahhh, couldn't be!  ;-)

> http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/7545999

> CRAIG, Colo. -- Houston Astros pitcher Roger Clemens was asked to leave a
> youth baseball game over the weekend for arguing a close call that went
> against his son's team.

> Clemens was at the game Saturday watching his son, Kacy, compete in a
> 10-and-under game organized by Triple Crown Sports when Clemens contested
a
> call at second base that went against the Katy Cowboys.

> He spit sunflower seeds at an umpire's leg and was asked to leave, said
Jim
> Carpenter, a field supervisor with Triple Crown.


 
 
 

Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Post by brin » Wed, 04 Aug 2004 09:40:32


Quote:
> It was not a Little League game.

you're right.  but that was sportsline.com's headline, still is.

probably like the brand names "aspirin," "refrigerator," and "kleenex," the
name "little league" has fallen into the american vernacular as a term to
refer to any youth baseball league from about 6 yrs old through 12 yrs old.

Quote:


> > roger clemens?  nahhh, couldn't be!  ;-)

> > http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/7545999

> > CRAIG, Colo. -- Houston Astros pitcher Roger Clemens was asked to leave
a
> > youth baseball game over the weekend for arguing a close call that went
> > against his son's team.

> > Clemens was at the game Saturday watching his son, Kacy, compete in a
> > 10-and-under game organized by Triple Crown Sports when Clemens
contested
> a
> > call at second base that went against the Katy Cowboys.

> > He spit sunflower seeds at an umpire's leg and was asked to leave, said
> Jim
> > Carpenter, a field supervisor with Triple Crown.


 
 
 

Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Post by Ryan Robbin » Wed, 04 Aug 2004 12:42:20


Quote:



> > It was not a Little League game.

> you're right.  but that was sportsline.com's headline, still is.

> probably like the brand names "aspirin," "refrigerator," and "kleenex,"
the
> name "little league" has fallen into the american vernacular as a term to
> refer to any youth baseball league from about 6 yrs old through 12 yrs

old.

No, it hasn't. It is still a trademark, not to mention the name of an
organization, not a consumable product.

 
 
 

Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Post by M. Zaiem Be » Wed, 04 Aug 2004 12:51:08

->> you're right.  but that was sportsline.com's headline, still is.
->>
->> probably like the brand names "aspirin," "refrigerator," and "kleenex,"
->the
->> name "little league" has fallen into the american vernacular as a term to
->> refer to any youth baseball league from about 6 yrs old through 12 yrs
->old.
->
->No, it hasn't. It is still a trademark, not to mention the name of an
->organization, not a consumable product.

Kleenex is also a brand name. And it being the name of an organization
instead of a consumable product doesn't mean it can't be used to describe
things other than Little League Baseball.

--

 
 
 

Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Post by brin » Wed, 04 Aug 2004 12:57:54


Quote:





> > > It was not a Little League game.

> > you're right.  but that was sportsline.com's headline, still is.

> > probably like the brand names "aspirin," "refrigerator," and "kleenex,"
> the
> > name "little league" has fallen into the american vernacular as a term
to
> > refer to any youth baseball league from about 6 yrs old through 12 yrs
> old.

> No, it hasn't. It is still a trademark, not to mention the name of an
> organization, not a consumable product.

"kleenex" is still a trademark and is used all the time by people to refer
to "*** tissue."  that's why it's called vernacular, not "the legally
correct identifying term."

similarly, many people, among them sportsline.com, use "little league" to
refer to all kinds of youth baseball leagues.  it might be technically
incorrect, but then so is top-posting or posting in all lowercase.  ;-)

 
 
 

Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Post by Ryan Robbin » Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:12:39



Quote:

> ->> you're right.  but that was sportsline.com's headline, still is.
> ->>
> ->> probably like the brand names "aspirin," "refrigerator," and
"kleenex,"
> ->the
> ->> name "little league" has fallen into the american vernacular as a term
to
> ->> refer to any youth baseball league from about 6 yrs old through 12 yrs
> ->old.
> ->
> ->No, it hasn't. It is still a trademark, not to mention the name of an
> ->organization, not a consumable product.

> Kleenex is also a brand name.

It is a product, manufactured by Kimberly-Clark Corp.

Quote:
> And it being the name of an organization
> instead of a consumable product doesn't mean it can't be used to describe
> things other than Little League Baseball.

Of course there is no law to prevent you from referring to any youth
baseball organization as Little League, you are still wrong to refer to any
youth baseball organization as Little League unless you are really referring
to Little League. You don't call Pepsi Coke.
 
 
 

Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Post by Ryan Robbin » Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:14:13


Quote:







> > > > It was not a Little League game.

> > > you're right.  but that was sportsline.com's headline, still is.

> > > probably like the brand names "aspirin," "refrigerator," and
"kleenex,"
> > the
> > > name "little league" has fallen into the american vernacular as a term
> to
> > > refer to any youth baseball league from about 6 yrs old through 12 yrs
> > old.

> > No, it hasn't. It is still a trademark, not to mention the name of an
> > organization, not a consumable product.

> "kleenex" is still a trademark and is used all the time by people to refer
> to "*** tissue."  that's why it's called vernacular, not "the legally
> correct identifying term."

> similarly, many people, among them sportsline.com, use "little league" to
> refer to all kinds of youth baseball leagues.

What makes "Little League" incorrect is the the capitalization, which refers
to a specific organization -- Little League.
 
 
 

Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Post by Bill » Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:41:40


Quote:

> Of course there is no law to prevent you from referring to any youth
> baseball organization as Little League, you are still wrong to refer to
any
> youth baseball organization as Little League unless you are really
referring
> to Little League.

Yes, wrong in a technical sense.  And it's also wrong to call any ***
tissue "Kleenex" if it's not an actual Kleenex product.  But that's not
going to stop people from calling it that, nor will it stop prople from
calling any organized baseball game/league Little League.

Sheesh.  Take a chill pill.

Quote:
> You don't call Pepsi Coke.

In the South they do.  In the East they are generally referred to as a soda.
The Midwest, pop.  And in the South, carbonated sugary beverages are often
referred to as a coke.

"You wanna coke with that?"
"Yeah, I'll have a ginger ale."

Bill G

 
 
 

Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Post by Steve Cutche » Wed, 04 Aug 2004 20:39:54

In article

Quote:



> > Of course there is no law to prevent you from referring to any youth
> > baseball organization as Little League, you are still wrong to refer to
> any
> > youth baseball organization as Little League unless you are really
> referring
> > to Little League.

> Yes, wrong in a technical sense.  And it's also wrong to call any ***
> tissue "Kleenex" if it's not an actual Kleenex product.  But that's not
> going to stop people from calling it that, nor will it stop prople from
> calling any organized baseball game/league Little League.

> Sheesh.  Take a chill pill.

> > You don't call Pepsi Coke.

> In the South they do.  In the East they are generally referred to as a soda.
> The Midwest, pop.  And in the South, carbonated sugary beverages are often
> referred to as a coke.

> "You wanna coke with that?"
> "Yeah, I'll have a ginger ale."

Exactly.

"You wanna Coke?"
"Sure, what kind you got?"

 
 
 

Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Post by Tarku » Wed, 04 Aug 2004 22:02:19


Quote:
> Of course there is no law to prevent you from referring to any youth
> baseball organization as Little League, you are still wrong to refer to any
> youth baseball organization as Little League unless you are really referring
> to Little League. You don't call Pepsi Coke.

And yet, many people do.  Or more accurately, refer to any cola product
as coke (lower case intended).  THAT'S the point.
--
"It's fun to watch him work.  He makes everything look simple.  We were
joking -- I said I'd fine him if he put his uniform in the wet bag when
he was done pitching.  I mean, he throws 80 pitches and doesn't break a
sweat."  - Roger Clemens on Greg Maddux

Now playing: "King Crimson - Red"

 
 
 

Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Post by Alan S. Wal » Wed, 04 Aug 2004 23:30:29

Quote:
> "Ryan Robbins"
>Of course there is no law to prevent you from referring to any youth
>baseball organization as Little League, you are still wrong to refer to any
>youth baseball organization as Little League unless you are really referring
>to Little League.

You're correct of course that Little League baseball is a distinct organization
than from, say, Dixie Baseball, or Babe Ruth baseball, or Triple Crown Sports.
My son plays in a park and rec league not affiliated with Little League
Baseball? yet I find it simpler to say "My boy has a Little League game
tonight" rather than "my boy has a Bloomington Athletic Association youth game
tonight."

People blow their nose in a Kleenex, clean out ears with a Q-tip, and put
Band-Aids on cuts.  We xerox copies, use Hi-Liters or Wite Out, Post-It notes
or scotch tape.  We eat Kool-Aid popsicles, Jell-O with Cool-Whip out of
styrofoam cups that were covered with Saran wrap, and put Starbucks in a
thermos. I listen to my Walkman while driving my Jeep.

--
"When you argue with a fool be sure he is not similarly occupied."

See how the pros get their power!
http://www.powrwrap.com/press.htm

 
 
 

Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Post by brin » Thu, 05 Aug 2004 04:29:42



Quote:
> > "Ryan Robbins"

> >Of course there is no law to prevent you from referring to any youth
> >baseball organization as Little League, you are still wrong to refer to
any
> >youth baseball organization as Little League unless you are really
referring
> >to Little League.

> You're correct of course that Little League baseball is a distinct
organization
> than from, say, Dixie Baseball, or Babe Ruth baseball, or Triple Crown
Sports.
> My son plays in a park and rec league not affiliated with Little League
> Baseball? yet I find it simpler to say "My boy has a Little League game
> tonight" rather than "my boy has a Bloomington Athletic Association youth
game
> tonight."

> People blow their nose in a Kleenex, clean out ears with a Q-tip, and put
> Band-Aids on cuts.  We xerox copies, use Hi-Liters or Wite Out, Post-It
notes
> or scotch tape.  We eat Kool-Aid popsicles, Jell-O with Cool-Whip out of
> styrofoam cups that were covered with Saran wrap, and put Starbucks in a
> thermos. I listen to my Walkman while driving my Jeep.

here come the trademark police...  ;-)
 
 
 

Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Post by Tom MacIntyr » Thu, 05 Aug 2004 04:58:05



Quote:



>> It was not a Little League game.

>you're right.  but that was sportsline.com's headline, still is.

>probably like the brand names "aspirin," "refrigerator," and "kleenex," the
>name "little league" has fallen into the american vernacular as a term to
>refer to any youth baseball league from about 6 yrs old through 12 yrs old.

But has "Little League"?

Tom

Quote:



>> > roger clemens?  nahhh, couldn't be!  ;-)

>> > http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/7545999

>> > CRAIG, Colo. -- Houston Astros pitcher Roger Clemens was asked to leave
>a
>> > youth baseball game over the weekend for arguing a close call that went
>> > against his son's team.

>> > Clemens was at the game Saturday watching his son, Kacy, compete in a
>> > 10-and-under game organized by Triple Crown Sports when Clemens
>contested
>> a
>> > call at second base that went against the Katy Cowboys.

>> > He spit sunflower seeds at an umpire's leg and was asked to leave, said
>> Jim
>> > Carpenter, a field supervisor with Triple Crown.

 
 
 

Clemens gets run from son's Little League title game

Post by Tom MacIntyr » Thu, 05 Aug 2004 05:03:19



Quote:
>roger clemens?  nahhh, couldn't be!  ;-)

>http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/7545999

>CRAIG, Colo. -- Houston Astros pitcher Roger Clemens was asked to leave a
>youth baseball game over the weekend for arguing a close call that went
>against his son's team.

>Clemens was at the game Saturday watching his son, Kacy, compete in a
>10-and-under game organized by Triple Crown Sports when Clemens contested a
>call at second base that went against the Katy Cowboys.

>He spit sunflower seeds at an umpire's leg and was asked to leave, said Jim
>Carpenter, a field supervisor with Triple Crown.

Having not seen the play, or being able to CSI the sunflower seed
part-strewn field, it's hard to state anything definitively, but it
sounds like the umpire may have blown 2 calls in a row.

Tom